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Which skaters should keep the same LP for the 2014 Olympics?

Discussion in 'The Trash Can' started by Vash01, Mar 24, 2013.

  1. Vash01

    Vash01 Fan of Yuzuru, Medvedeva, T&M, Shibs, P&C

    Sometimes it works for a skater to use the same program two seasons in a row, like M&D did in 1991 & 1992. From the current skaters which skaters would you like to see the same LP for 2014?

    My picks:

    Mao Asada - Swan Lake: I like this music for her, and would like to see her land all her jumps including the 3A, and using her musicality. I just don't want to see her wear feathers.

    Ashley Wagner- Samson & Deliala (sp?): She did well early in the season; not so later. If she wants to add a 3-3 she is better off using a program she is familiar with, and she expresses this music really well.

    Hanyu (I don't think he ever skated this to its potential; he will mature and skate it much better)

    Bazarova- Larionov: Spartacus. This is their best LP so far. I would like to see them work on finer points, and skate/spin closer- make them look more like a pair. With a music and program they are familiar with, they can work on other things.

    Carolina Kostner: Bolero. There is room to develop this LP further.

    I definitely do NOT want to see the following skaters use the same program next year:
    V&T, S&S, Takahashi (he had a bad year), Akiko, Yu na Kim (although I love Les Mis, she should try something else next year)

    Sotnikova absolutely must change her LP music next year, and Liza's was not that good either (that particular version).
  2. Maofan7

    Maofan7 Member

    Mao Asada should retain Swan Lake, and Adelina Sotnikova should definitely jettison her LP
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  3. AndyWarhol

    AndyWarhol Well-Known Member

    I hope Carolina keeps Bolero.

    I actually hope Mao gets a new program. I like her swan lake, but I think she needs something more amazing for an Olympic year.
  4. jiggs

    jiggs Well-Known Member

    I am kind of torn - on the one hand I would love for Carolina to keep the Bolero program; on the other hand, this will be her last season and her last chance to come up with something even more special and unique ...
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  5. briancoogaert

    briancoogaert Well-Known Member

    Akiko's LP was one of the best program of the season, IMO. It would be good for her to decide to keep it.
    I hope Carolina will change her LP, because she had 3 beautiful LP in a row, but Bolero is my least favorite, and I'm sure she can do another beautiful LP :)

    Mao Asada's Swan has nothing to do with a Swan, IMO. It's nice, but really, I'm not sure she wants to personalise a Swan and she could do the same kind of nice program with another theme.
  6. Zemgirl

    Zemgirl Well-Known Member

    Nobody keeps programs in ice dance, so that's one discipline that needn't be considered.

    Carolina Kostner almost never recycles programs, and I don't expect her to do so for next season - why is good, because like briancoogaert, I find Bolero her weakest LP in the last few years. V/T, S/S, Dai and Yuna should all get new programs. i hope Ingo Steuer has something spectacular in the works for S/S, and even that might not be enough.

    I think Patrick Chan will keep a program and I hope it'll be Elegie. Brian Joubert will likely stick with Gladiator for the LP, and I have no issue with that, it's gotten good PCS and was a mid-season change so he might as well go ahead. Kaetlyn Osmond might want to stick with her current SP, it scores well and she seems to enjoy it. I hope K/S keep their LP, which is lovely and hasn't yet been performed to its potential.
  7. lowtherlore

    lowtherlore New Member

    I want to see new programs from every top skater/team.

    About Caro, although many seemed to like her Bolero this season, I hope she goes for a program that showcases her skating skills even better. It looks like she’s the one who could mount a challenge on Yu-Na.
  8. gingercrush

    gingercrush Well-Known Member

    Recycling programs for Mao would be way too 2010ish for my liking. Though she can bring back Chopin's Nocturne No.2 any time.
  9. miki88

    miki88 Active Member

    Bringing back Chopin Ballade as a competitive program would be even better.
  10. Katarzyna

    Katarzyna Well-Known Member

    As a general rule I think it makes sense for those skaters to keep their programmes, who had great ones but couldn't perform them well / or not at all at major events, Akiko and Hanyu come to my mind. I really liked their free programmes, but they just didn't deliver it in best possible ways.

    I wish Ksenia Makarova will keep her LP - I love it, but her chances to make it to Sochi are unfortunately close to zero. :(

    One more skater who very urgently needs to change BOTH of her programmes: Gracie Gold. :scream:

    In general I hope that we will see many new programmes and that skaters won't play it safe with regards to music choices / choreo in view of the Olympics. Can't wait for the new season to start. :)
  11. FunnyBut

    FunnyBut Well-Known Member

    I don't think ANYONE should keep the same program for the Olympic year. It's the big year in the 4 year cycle of the sport, everyone should do her utmost to come up with the very best new program, using the music she has most wanted to skate to for the last four years. I think there should be a mandatory deduction for recycling a program during the Olympic season, um, just because I want to see splashy new programs duke it out.

    That said, I am simply wowed by Mao's Swan Lake. Could she and Lori just come up with something equally musical/joyous/brilliant/amazing next year? :)
  12. Skater91

    Skater91 Member

    The only reason I want Carolina to keep Bolero is because she never did the whole thing clean!

    If she had, I would have said to scrap it and start new for the Olympic season but I want to see the program done to its full potential
  13. Proustable

    Proustable New Member

    Bolero grew on me, but I want Kostner to change her LP.

    Anyone that essentially skated the LP to it's fullest potential needs to change it. I'd love to see Jeremy Abbott keep his LP - it was one of the finest of the year and he never skated it well. I wouldn't mind seeing Kanako's LP again, especially if she works on minimizing her under-rotations.
  14. jiggs

    jiggs Well-Known Member

    She came very close to clean at Italian Nationals - 6 triples, but not 3f3t: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc5CQgFC0YE
    I think she performed it much better at Worlds though, it was so intense!
  15. misskarne

    misskarne #AustraliaForTheTeamEvent

    The only one I want kept is Brown's Liebestraume...another year of maturity and stronger in the technical and that could be an absolute masterpiece.

    Everyone else needs new LPs (and SPs) stat.
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  16. Geh

    Geh Live in Guardian Angel

    Kaethlyn Osmond SP. And Carolina Kostner LP to boléro!
  17. pinky166

    pinky166 #teamtrainwreck #teamdiva

    I think nobody should keep their old programs. It's the Olympic season, new programs for all!
  18. hanca

    hanca Well-Known Member

    I agree.
  19. Vash01

    Vash01 Fan of Yuzuru, Medvedeva, T&M, Shibs, P&C

    Chopin really helps showcase Mao's strengths. I hope she uses Chopin for either SP or LP next year - there goes my 'keep Swan Lake' suggestion out the window :)
  20. analia

    analia Well-Known Member

    I prefer Kostner's SP. I really would like her to keep it. It is my favorite SP this season. She's probably done the best Bolero in recent years, but that's just because nobody ever does a good Bolero (because it's a minimal piece of music, but most choreographers don't understand that and always weigh it down by overcomplicating it). The program in itself isn't all that amazing. Mao's Swan Lake is a masterpiece, but it's the kind of masterpiece that has definitely run its course.

    Kanako keeping her tango would make me happy.
  21. euterpe

    euterpe Well-Known Member

    Not a good idea to recycle programs for the Olympics.
  22. sk8ingcoach

    sk8ingcoach Active Member

    At first i wanted Carolina to keep Bolero, only because she didnt skate a clean performance (nationals doesnt count). But now im leaning towards her getting new programs, as it will be her last chance to create something amazing and spectacular.
  23. casken

    casken Well-Known Member

    Kavaguti and Smirnov's LP. That program has Olympic written all over it.

    If they don't use it, someone else should take the music skate to it.
  24. Lyinna

    Lyinna Member

    It was my favorite LP this year so I hope she can skate it perfectly in GP.
  25. morqet

    morqet rising like a phoenix

    I would really like Yuna to bring back her Arirang long program - she only skated it competitively once, and it was done at nowhere near its full potential. Jeremy Abbott mentioned last year that he would possibly bring back his Muse program for the Olympic season. I'm not too sure if I'd like that; it was a great program but I don't think there was a lot of room to develop it further.
  26. bardtoob

    bardtoob Former Choreographer for Anna Maria Tragikova

    Patrick Chan
  27. Alixana

    Alixana Definitely NOT a sonogram

  28. Dilng

    Dilng Well-Known Member

    They all need to get new programs. It's was hard to watch some of these programs this year without seeing them again next year. It's an Olympic year they all need new stuff!
  29. shine

    shine Well-Known Member

    Didn't TAT choregraphy Swan Lake for Asada?

    Honestly I don't see why many think it's such a great program. There's so much repeitiveness (the way she would always do a standard three turn to change direction and mowak into her triples etc) and the only really part that actually stood out a bit was the step sequence.

    I'm also torn between Kostner keeping her LP and getting a new one. Bolero is amazing but I do think there's room for development still and I agree that there are some empty parts in the program. But I also would love to see something new from a master like her.
  30. blue_idealist

    blue_idealist Well-Known Member

    I hope Moore-Towers and Moscovitch keep their beautiful LP. I do not want to see either of Daisuke's 2013 programs ever again, nor do I want to see Florent Amodio's 2013 LP again (maybe I should say any Morozov program can be 'retired'? lol).