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What will be Gracie Gold's new SP music???

Discussion in 'The Trash Can' started by Dr.Siouxs, Nov 25, 2013.

Which crusty warhorse will prevail?

  1. SwArms Lake--If you can't point your toes, flail.

    1 vote(s)
  2. Carmen. You know, in a black and red costume... :yawn:

    9 vote(s)
  3. A slightly less ear-splitting George Gershwin number.

    6 vote(s)
  4. Memoirs of a Geisha. A tribute to Japanese culture? :shuffle:

    3 vote(s)
  5. Something Puccinni. Italian is always nice.

    4 vote(s)
  6. Soemthing Kwan used. If that feeling starts beginning, take an ant-acid.

    11 vote(s)
  7. Other Generic Movie Soundtrack. Music tinkly enough to make you pee.

    8 vote(s)
  8. An "edgy" Muzak version of a classic rock tune.

    1 vote(s)
  9. Something else (DO explain.)

    8 vote(s)
  1. IceAlisa

    IceAlisa discriminating and persnickety ballet aficionado

    Well, our celebrations turned out to be premature. The beginning of the first movement would have been perfect but unfortunately, the softer, more lyrical part of the second movement is being used. :wall:

    Reports from her first outing of it are meh. Too bad, this music has such potential for Gracie's style of skating.
  2. giselle23

    giselle23 Well-Known Member

    I'll wait to see it, but leave it to Lori to pick out the least best part of this great piece of music.
  3. Ziggy

    Ziggy Well-Known Member

  4. Sasha'sSpins

    Sasha'sSpins Well-Known Member

    marysy uploaded this video from the show (thanks again marysy!): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4idjEkR-Bs8

    It's okay for a first run I guess. I didn't have a problem with Gracie's original SP. I just hope this one still pulls in the marks she was getting during the GP.
  5. LadyNit

    LadyNit moving right along

    I, for one, lurrrrrrrve this music. Gracie looks exquisite, very powerful and elegant. It is a great vehicle for her to show us what she can do. Bravo Team Gracie! :encore:
  6. IceAlisa

    IceAlisa discriminating and persnickety ballet aficionado

    Wow, I am changing my mind for the second time. I LOVE THIS!!! This is, by far and away, the best program I've ever seen Gracie skate to. Windmilling was kept to a minimum and her arms and carriage were quite beautiful most of the time! That's a huge, monster improvement over a short period of time. My hat's off to Frank Carroll! Finally, she is looking like a top tier senior lady who can do more than (occasionally) land jumps. :eek: :respec: This is gorgeous. I knew we would see improvement once she went to Carroll but I didn't think we would see it so soon.
  7. rosewood

    rosewood Well-Known Member

    This new one is much more elegant and proper vehicle for Olympics. Love Lori. Also it's surely a Carroll program
  8. Coco

    Coco Well-Known Member

    Not sure how I feel about this yet (the opening part works, but the steps and the rearrangement of the elements...not sure). It's fine really, but I just object on principle to her being put into this "soft, delicate/elegant" box that all US ladies skaters must live in, apparently.
  9. IceAlisa

    IceAlisa discriminating and persnickety ballet aficionado

    You know how I was against Gracie skating to a lyrical program, literally just a few posts ago. But here she demonstrates that she can skate a program like that as well as any "pretty princess," with the term used without the pejorative meaning. Beautiful. Coulda knocked me down with a feather.
  10. cbd1235

    cbd1235 Well-Known Member

    WOW this program is unbelievably beautiful and Olympic-worthy. I am an Ashley Wagner fan and usually think Gracie is meh, but this is an AMAZING program. If Lori makes more programs like this for Gracie she'll have won me over as a fan in no time. Maybe Ashley can start to use Lori Nichol too? ahahah :)

    BRAVO Gracie Gold, Frank Carroll, and Lori Nichol.
  11. Cheylana

    Cheylana Well-Known Member

    I absolutely adore Grieg's Piano Concerto, so I'm ok with this choice. Good luck, Gracie!
  12. jenny12

    jenny12 Well-Known Member

    Really enjoyed the new short program! Gracie has shown improvement already and I love the music so much.
  13. Nomad

    Nomad Celebrity cheese-monger

    I liked that much better than the Gershwin program. I look forward to seeing that again at Nationals.
  14. Flying Camel

    Flying Camel Member

    I love Gracie's new SP. It is Olympic caliber. She has so many lovely moments in the program. If she hits it in competition it will score really well. I know some people have said the program is not Gracie. But I think this is the type of skater she wants to be. She looks like she loves the program.

    Is there time to get a new LP?
    Last edited: Dec 13, 2013
  15. all_empty

    all_empty Well-Known Member

    One of my favorite pieces of music of all time.

    Freakin' Liashenko had a great program to it, as did Ryan Jahnke. Miki Ando was pretty much unbeaten with her version.

    Upon first viewing, I think there are some nice moments, but I don't love this program. I think longer cuts would work better as a free skate, and I feel her former short program was more cohesive.

    I guess I'll have to watch it a few more times.
  16. FunnyBut

    FunnyBut Well-Known Member

    OMG, now THAT is an Olympic program! What a transformation, if the face was not shown, I would not have known it was Gracie Gold! Beautiful articulation of the arms , movement is supple and timed so well to the phrasing of the music. Even the 'mitten hands' have been separated into beautifully articulated fingers. Big kudos to Frank and Lori (and eville USFS for force feeding Gracie and her entourage their way :lol: ), I knew all along this was the right move, but the improvement has exceeded what I had thought was remotely reasonable. Honestly I have always strongly supported Gracie, but never really thought she was at all refined or articulate until now. Of course, a big kudos to Gracie herself, too, she must have worked so very hard to make this happen in such a short time.


    ETA: she should just tell her twin that the borrowed dress is now 'MINE'. The whole package work so well.
    Last edited: Dec 13, 2013
  17. shah

    shah Shhh... shhh...

    Glebova also skated to this :p.

    I admit I really like this short. Obviously not as edgy as Gershwin, but if skated sans mistakes, it has a potential to score very well!
  18. rfisher

    rfisher Will you rise like a phoenix or be a burnt chicken

    Frank is an excellent coach, especially, if he has a skater who is willing to put in the work and time.
  19. kwanette

    kwanette Fetalized since 1998

    True. I just watched Gracie's new sp....Much improved, IMHO..
  20. kwanatic

    kwanatic Well-Known Member

    I guess I'm in the minority here, but I'm not as blown away as some of you appear to be. Cross posting from Golden Skate:

    I'll add to that by saying I do feel Gracie has improved this season as far as presentation goes but this lyrical program still seems forced to me. She's pulling it off decently enough but it doesn't look natural. I think it has a lot to do with how stiff and straight her carriage is, particularly (and most annoyingly) her arms. When I think lyrical, I think of soft, elegant, flowy, graceful, delicate...Gracie is making an effort to be all of those things but (to me) it's obvious it's something she has to make an effort to be. It doesn't seem like it's her natural way of moving and I can see that in her performance.

    It's a nice program that will score very well at nationals if she pulls it off...then again her first SP would have scored very well if she pulled that off too.
  21. Macassar88

    Macassar88 Well-Known Member

    I think this is worse than Miki's. At least at 4CC Miki was trying to interpret the music. At worlds she probably put her earplugs back in, but at 4CC, I thought she was pretty good.
  22. Mayra

    Mayra Well-Known Member

    Huge improvement in the upper body for Gracie. She's still a work in progress and the shoulders continue to drop, but kudos to her team and to her for the obvious work that has been put in. :respec:

    She's got a lot of growing to do and I can't wait to see her develop under Frank. :cheer:
  23. barbk

    barbk Well-Known Member

    Boring. I really, really wish they picked something that used Gracie's spark and oomph and didn't try to make her all floaty.
  24. kwanette

    kwanette Fetalized since 1998

    kwanatic, I'm not blown away, but, to me, there is improvement. In the first half of the program she doesn't appear to be "all frantic" and competing in a super-market sweepstakes.

    She's not a natural,. but neither was Ashley and she came a long way under Mills....but, this might be the first time people have tried to slow her down and refine her moves.

    She still needs work on those arms...that is why I am interested in what she can do over the next quad..not interested in seeing another one-hit wonder or diamond in the rough win the OLY. My preference is always for a full -packaged skater....Ahem..come back, Mirai!
  25. dinakt

    dinakt Well-Known Member

    I really like the new SP. Especially when the music swells towards the end, it matches Gracie's power.
    Because we fans are rarely happy, the moment she finished I thought: Oh great, now let's do a modern, edgy LP and it'll be perfect:)
    I don't think this SP is gentle and princess-y; rather, it is romantic. And if it teaches Gracie to express this kind of music, all the better, she'll be more versatile.
  26. personwhoishere

    personwhoishere Well-Known Member

    The music is a million times better than the previous program, and she skates pretty well to it, too. For those calling it boring, although I somewhat disagree, I'd take boring over physically painful any day! I think it's a vast improvement.
  27. kwanfan1818

    kwanfan1818 I <3 Kozuka

    I wish this was her FS, keeping the Gershwin SP, but I think it's a lovely program, and can't wait until she's out of show lighting in a big rink, and she can fly with it.

  28. ks777

    ks777 Well-Known Member

    who choreographed this new sp?
  29. falling_dance

    falling_dance Coaching Patrick

    Same here--on all counts.
  30. kwanfan1818

    kwanfan1818 I <3 Kozuka

    Lori Nichol.