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Virtue ~ Moir n. 20. L’amour est un oiseau rebelle

Discussion in 'The Trash Can' started by martyross, Sep 8, 2012.

  1. Golightly

    Golightly Well-Known Member

    I like that they're indeed focusing on body movements. Pani, remember your modern ballet video? I think they're going for something like that. Also, the entry into the lift reminds me of the serpentine lift from Pink Floyd. And can we add that rotational to our list of trademark lifts? I love how these two suspend time. That is one difficult lift, mainly because the momentum changes too quickly. O can tell they're still getting used to it.

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  2. sap5

    sap5 Well-Known Member

    Well, this looks like it ain't no Umbrellas of Cherbourg... although Scott was trying to get away with something even then. ;)
  3. nlyoung

    nlyoung Active Member

    :rofl: I didn't notice this on first viewing... PG13?
  4. Cherub721

    Cherub721 YEAH!

    I know! I want to cave, but let's be strong. :D Now I'm really curious what the non-fans will say... it sounds like V&M are really trying to address all criticism of them by being more modern/voidy/sexy instead of doing a "young love" thing.
  5. Emdee

    Emdee Well-Known Member

    The non fans will say-

    Its always a love theme with V&M
    Their lifts look the same as always
    Their twizzles are not as fast
    Their spins are slow
    Scott's hair
    Tessa's weight( I would give almost anything to be that size again!)
    ad nauseum

    But who cares.... not us!
  6. professordeb

    professordeb Well-Known Member

    I understand that they are 3rd in ISU rankings but why on earth would a CANADIAN station mention that they are the current Olympic Champions from over 2 years ago yet not say they are also the World Champions from last season. Seems like a stupid way to put things. Someone didn't do their homework properly cause when he said they are ranked 3rd, he should have explained what it actually meant. If I'm not really a skating fan, I'm thinking they must have come in third last year. Tsk Tsk Tsk. Bad reporting.
  7. Shayii

    Shayii Well-Known Member

  8. aka_gerbil

    aka_gerbil Rooting for the Underdogs

    Very true that they should have pointed out they're third in the world rankings but the reigning world champions.

    On another note, according to this tweet, there will be more on tonights CTV Windsor news:
  9. Golightly

    Golightly Well-Known Member

    Pj is so awesome. Good to see she mentioned it.

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  10. pani

    pani Well-Known Member

  11. VarBar

    VarBar Well-Known Member

    Carmen might just be V/M's most challenging FD to this day due to the intricacy and diversity of arm and body movements. It's definitely not easy to make a dance like that flow but I am fully trusting them to make everything look stunning by the end of the season.

    Dying to know what dress Tessa will wear for her character and let's 'see how they'll do on their levels in both dances.

    :lol: I didn't know even Scott's hair is an issue for them. Should Scott dye his hair blonde and use the curling iron for a change? I do hope he won't because it would all be as fake as faking connection in a post-program piece of acting.
  12. aka_gerbil

    aka_gerbil Rooting for the Underdogs

    I'll need to see the whole thing to say for sure, but I agree that this may very well be their most challenging FD. From what we've seen so far, it appears to be quite difficult and complex.

    I'm hoping they keep their costumes simple, sort of like what they did for PF at Worlds in 2009, to show off their movement.

    It seems like some people thought his hair was too short last year or something like that.

    There is a whole laundry list of comments in my head that I'm sure we'll see out of the usual detractors. It doesn't matter what the actual program looks like, some people are just that predictable.
  13. Cherub721

    Cherub721 YEAH!

    This makes sense, since Pink Floyd was their most complex program to date and they're using the same choreographer. Agree on the costumes as well. If this is Pink Floyd, but with an added layer of expression (the one thing PF arguably lacked), then it will be a wow.
  14. aka_gerbil

    aka_gerbil Rooting for the Underdogs

    Plus, *turn, spit, curse*, this program is likely to get something that PF didn't: to be fully trained and have plenty of competetion miles on it by Worlds.
  15. Shayii

    Shayii Well-Known Member

    Yes the choreo looks insanely hard. Even that lift, they need so much control for it.

    Also as I remember it, it was mostly V/M fans that had a problem with Scott's hair.
  16. Pratfall

    Pratfall Active Member

    I always preferred the tie-dye PF costumes and thought they gave just the right nod to the era , so I'm hoping for simple ,but with some kind of a subtle Carmen reference.

    Cherub and Proustable ..hang in there..it's going to be sweet , judging from these tiny glimpses ..delerium will be your reward.
  17. martyross

    martyross Well-Known Member

    I watched :D:D:dog:!! i thought the self-restriction applies to the practice videos only, not to CTV Windsor news :D
    so Habanera is in! I'm EXTREMELY satisfied by what I saw, because Tessa looks like an evil, "disturbing" seductress, as a real Carmen should be! just like in the Swedish ballet production (and a bit like Krylova) I tell you, she's going to be PERFECT as Carmen. yes sir, it will be epic!!
  18. IoanaC

    IoanaC Well-Known Member

    I love that bit where you can hear the beginning of the Toreador's aria and she struggles to get away from Scott aka Don Jose (or at least that would be my interpretation of it - at 0:40). I agree that's probably the most challenging piece of choreography they've ever had, and I hope the whole program is everything we're expecting it to be.
  19. lauravvv

    lauravvv Well-Known Member

    Thank you! Yes, it looks quite interesting and complex. As for the costumes, I somehow don't think that the little read ballet type skirt for Tessa that some people suggested would suit this type of dance (especially the side by side movements that are shown at the end). I rather predict something similar to their 'Pink Floyd' costumes. 'Carmen' without some red accent migth seem quite improbable, but that's been done in some ballets (for instance, in that same Petit ballet version a link to which was provided here). But we'll have to wait and see.
    Last edited: Oct 24, 2012
  20. VarBar

    VarBar Well-Known Member

    I do believe they will, for one thing that's usually their style - and I am grateful to them because I want to see what they skate first and foremost, not necessarily what they wear, what they wear is just a bonus - and for the other and most importantly, their contemporary approach - which I fully embrace btw because it makes Carmen feel more like a universal theme rather than just a latin story - would require simple costuming IMO rather than busy, flashy and flamboyant. I'm really not expecting Scott to go for a toreador's outfit :scream: in their take of Carmen.

    If that's all that was, I'll take it as constructive criticism because as Shayii said in her post some of us fans too complained about Scott's hair being too short in FF.

    So Jennifer Swan is the choreographer, not Marina? I thought Marina would not allow for outside choreography but it seems she was misjudged. Or am I missing something?
  21. Macassar88

    Macassar88 Well-Known Member

    I think there's a difference between the way that we nitpick Tessa and Scott (hair or otherwise)
    We say the things we say about hair length, outfits etc because we think that they are so amazing that they really only need to fine tune the really tiny things.
    The haters nitpick because they need to criticize something to prove why their favorites are better, but that's all they can find.
  22. bbkenn

    bbkenn Well-Known Member

    The little bit I saw was just fantastic. I can't wait!!
  23. professordeb

    professordeb Well-Known Member

    When you said that PJ "went there" I thought you meant the article was going to speak about Scott's hand being in an interesting place and not about Carmen vs Carmen. I realize that's the title but ... well my mind was still in the oh la la about Scott. Hmmm ... my bad :D
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  24. clarie

    clarie Well-Known Member

    Seeing that short little clip makes me more anxious to see both programs....can't wait, and may even peek at the practices if I get the chance in my schedule :). I already love the waltz music, and am really excited about their "Carmen" now.

    DORISPULASKI Watching submarine races

    If Swan is, V&M's isu bio does not reflect that:

    Of course, their SD description might not be quite right either:

    i.e. no polka at all.
  26. aka_gerbil

    aka_gerbil Rooting for the Underdogs

    They've mentioned Jennifer Swan as one of their choreographers in most of their interviews as of late. Why it's not listed on the ISU bio I don't know, but like you said, the SD description doesn't list any polka...

    ETA: They also don't have Oleg Epstein listed as one of their coaches, but he's listed on the Skate Canada website. Scott has also shrunk in height from last year. ;)

    ETA 2: They refer to both Marina and Jennifer Swan as their choroegraphers here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ipzpb8A2IoI&feature=player_detailpage#t=24s

    It's also mentioned somewhere in this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVy8AtHuG5w
    Last edited: Oct 25, 2012
  27. sequins

    sequins Active Member

    :lol: I did too. Get your cold drink and turn the fan on cause this could be a sizzler!:D
  28. aka_gerbil

    aka_gerbil Rooting for the Underdogs

    I'm my grandmother's primary caregiver at present. Last year, she loved V/M. I was planning on us watching together again this year, but I'm not sure I can show a 90+ year old lady a program with that move in it. ;)
  29. sequins

    sequins Active Member

    I know what you mean my mom adored them last year as well. It's the good ol' days, it's Fred and Audrey why wouldn't they love it? Now a crotch/thigh 'feel' may be another story.:)