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Vanessa James | Morgan Cipres

Discussion in 'The Trash Can' started by arakwafan2006, Jan 26, 2017.

  1. aftershocks

    aftershocks Well-Known Member

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    Ted Flett of Golden Skate interviewed J/C's coach, John Zimmerman, at Skate America:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDOiFkO-lv8

    ETA:
    I also found this old interview with Vanessa and Morgan in 2015 at TEB with Ted Flett:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYujUB8IxDA :)

    So, Vanessa reveals toward the middle of this 2015 interview that she and Morgan used to date each other, but not any longer. However, she said they are still very close and they are good friends. It is probably difficult to maintain a romantic relationship off the ice with the ups-and-downs of developing a career together on the ice.

    Vanessa:
    "We still have a really strong connection. We're really close, and it's natural actually when we're on the ice, other than when we get into a few fights on the ice. Honestly, we cannot skate when we're not good together... So it's our force, but it's also our weakness. But when it works, it's so beautiful. You can feel it between us, even we still feel it..."

    Vanessa goes on to say that's why Morgan chose music from Romeo & Juliet for their fp last season.
     
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  2. AngieNikodinovLove

    AngieNikodinovLove Well-Known Member

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    Well, they were named best dressed by Sam (and said they are underscored).

    http://web.icenetwork.com/news/2017/02/02/214919492

    "GOLD - Vanessa James/Morgan Cipr├Ęs (SP)

    The judges can keep underscoring these two all they want -- they are flawless examples of skating fashion excellence in my book. Vanessa's black dress alone is one of the best looks this season."
     
  3. aftershocks

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    Well I've been thinking of possible music selections for J/C in anticipation of next season :D

    I Don't Wanna Live Forever, Zayn/ Taylor Swift from Fifty Shades Darker (their current sp song, Earned It, is from Fifty Shades of Grey :))
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7F37r50VUTQ

    Hymn for the Weekend, Coldplay https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YykjpeuMNEk

    See You Again, Wiz Khalifa, ft Charlie Puth, from Furious 7 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgKAFK5djSk

    You're Beautiful, James Blunt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oofSnsGkops

    Pillowtalk, Zayn from Fifty Shades Darker https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_3d6GntKbk

    Mirrors, Justin Timberlake https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuZE_IRwLNI

    Hero, Enrique Iglesias https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koJlIGDImiU

    I Want It That Way
    , Backstreet Boys https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fndeDfaWCg

    Truly Madly Deeply, Savage Garden https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8VYrbBj_MY (performance by Scott Williams)

    Bailando, Enrique Iglesias https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8I-7Wk_Vbc

    BeBe MV, Seo in Guk [K-Pop] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NK9tN33ymg
     
  4. AngieNikodinovLove

    AngieNikodinovLove Well-Known Member

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    LOL, really? I want it that way? And Enrique? LOL you make me smile/laugh :)

    I LOVE this song for J&C. A few American teams I think used it about a decade ago..perhaps Orscher & Lucash, but I really think this fits them. And if not J&C then Scimerims for the SP!

    Brainbug - Nightmare (Sinister Strings Mix)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gy_IdH-2WZE

    When you get to the 2 minute mark but especially the 3:10 mark I think this piece is so dope for BOTH TEAMS!!!!!
     
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  5. aftershocks

    aftershocks Well-Known Member

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    :lol: I know, I know. I love music of all kinds, even though I'm not a music expert. At heart, I think I'm kind of a softie for kitschy love songs. :p :shuffle:

    BTW, Enrique looks like some kind of Dorian Gray perpetually youthful character who has sold his soul to the devil. These videos can't be that old, and he still looks as young as ever. :eek: I remember when he had that hot to trot on-again, off-again love mashup with Anna Kournikova, the gorgeous Russian tennis player who had trouble winning major tournaments.


    But OMG @AngieNikodinovLove, that Brainbug Nightmare is something else. Sinister and creepy indeed. But in this time of Trump, absolutely apropos, unfortunately. :drama: :yikes:

    Is Sinister Strings the name of the group, or what? [ETA: Okay no, I see that the music is the 'brainchild' of former music producer, Alberto Bertapelle, who passed away last year.] There's something compelling about the music, but also rather off-putting, so I'm sure if a team chose it, there'd be a lot of bellyaching because of it's unusual risky qualities. It reminds me of the chances Pap/Ciz have taken with their FD music. I think Pap/Ciz have made great adjustments to the FD, but without giving up on their edgy concept and vision for that program. I truly applaud them for sticking to their goals and dedicated approach to what they have to contribute with their skating. :)

    Your Brainbug idea certainly falls into the category of risk-taking. The more I try to think of music choices, the more I realize how difficult the entire process of selecting, cutting, and choreographing to music must be. Hopefully, the skaters do listen to and/or are inspired by some of fans' ideas (if they happen to hear about fans' music suggestions).

    Seriously though, some of my suggestions are also dope, right? :lol: At least a couple of them are up the same alley for J/C, since they are from the sequel to Fifty Shades of Grey. Interestingly, I think that J/C have been growing to the point where they are now, so that everything they experienced in France, and then trying to train in Russia, and then back in France last season with Fabian Bourzat trying to lend assistance, has led to their current success with John Z and coaching team. J/C's last year's sp was a perfect tune-up for this year's. It's when everything comes together just right that magic happens. I wish them continued luck and success!

    Speaking of music, I was also thinking that J/C or some team might want to explore Korean Traditional Music for a fp, and/or K-pop perhaps for a sp. But again, that's just me. Everyone will come up with whatever they come up with.

    Here's some KTM:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KCikXm6hic
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyieFu7BnHE
     
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  6. AngieNikodinovLove

    AngieNikodinovLove Well-Known Member

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    I actually became aware of the song about 10 yrs ago as it was making the rounds in figure skating... I would say about 3 teams used it..

    Maybe Orscher & Lucash, maybe Castille & Okolski and some other non USA teams.. I heard them skate to that piece and I LOVED it... This is a piece for a team who is powerful and doesnt emphasize balletic lines, etc... I thought Scimerim or J&C should do this!!!!
     
  7. aftershocks

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    ^^ Really, three teams already used it? Can you locate any videotapes on Youtube @AngieNikodinovLove, or recall who the teams were?

    I agree with your view of the type of teams for whom Brainbug music might work. :)
     
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  8. justtojoke

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    I would LOVE for them to skate to "Mirror" by Alexandre Desplat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7HRPoTu0GE. It plays to their ability skate with power and aggression but it's still soft. Just imagine what they will look like after a WHOLE summer w/ Zimmerman and co. instead of a few months.
     
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  10. Sylvia

    Sylvia Still recovering from Worlds...

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  11. aftershocks

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    Here's Vanessa James' Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/vanessa_james_sk8/?hl=en

    I love these:
    https://www.instagram.com/p/BQLKq5tAtSh/?taken-by=vanessa_james_sk8&hl=en great photo after their fp at Euros

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BQDCMQwAQ13/?taken-by=vanessa_james_sk8&hl=en :encore: great pose for Aestus mag photo shoot; love Jeremy Barrett's post followed by by the post from 'oneluckygay' :lol: :grope:

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BQDCFRgAPoQ/?taken-by=vanessa_james_sk8&hl=en another from Aestus mag photo shoot

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BP6YhWHAiRH/?taken-by=vanessa_james_sk8&hl=en With countrymates, Gabby/Guillaume: Ahhh, such beautiful & talented young people happy together :cheer2:

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BPzbzpdgzRm/?taken-by=vanessa_james_sk8&hl=en Montage celebrating their Euros bronze :)

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BP5DihjAeJv/?taken-by=vanessa_james_sk8&hl=en So glam together :respec:

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BPxamF8Aicx/?taken-by=vanessa_james_sk8&hl=en With coach, Zimmerman :D

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BQgY4L4AEgg/?taken-by=vanessa_james_sk8&hl=en Valentine's Day montage: Vanessa's tribute to the "3 men" in her life, her Dad, Morgan, and her current boyfriend :)

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BQsTrstlnZ_/?taken-by=vanessa_james_sk8&hl=en Vanessa's hilarious heartthrobs! :cool:

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BQO7sZMAFku/?taken-by=vanessa_james_sk8&hl=en Vanessa with her Mom and her fraternal twin sister: Lovely ladies!
     
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  12. cocotaffy

    cocotaffy Politicking for P/C to skate on whale sounds

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    Thanks @aftershocks for those great photos. Do we know if Zimmerman did shave his head ?
     
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  13. Loves_Shizuka

    Loves_Shizuka The Stolbova/Klimov and James/Cipres Uber

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    What great pics, thanks @aftershocks

    Vanessa has good taste in men - Morgan and Jordan :swoon:
     
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  14. aftershocks

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    Lots of wonderful possibility... I love the sound. :)

    This is nice by Alexandre Desplat too: The Wonder of Life https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JzYr1T-OoQ

    I haven't heard, but I doubt it. John Z is so attached to his hair. :lol: More likely John is backing out and using his same vow to get James/Cipres clicking on all cylinders at Worlds. :D :saint:

    I'm wondering how Vanessa and Morgan are working out dividing their time between France and Florida? :)
     
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  16. cocotaffy

    cocotaffy Politicking for P/C to skate on whale sounds

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    So he tricked his team ... Wonder what Vanessa and Morgan think about this type of coaching technic :D As long as it works, keep the good work, I say. Hail to a spot on the World podium. It would be amazing.
     
  17. cocotaffy

    cocotaffy Politicking for P/C to skate on whale sounds

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  18. aftershocks

    aftershocks Well-Known Member

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    Here's John and Sylvia speaking with Ted Flett in Helsinki: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEiNHW5q_JI&feature=youtu.be

    Too bad about the fluke off-balance fall by Vanessa after they completed the throw 3-twist in the sp. They recovered really well and shined on everything else. :) Good luck to them on moving up in the fp, since the numbers range isn't too bad for moving up. Podium seems out of the question, and it probably always was, though they had a chance for top 5. It looks like the judges have the top three that they really want, barring mistakes from those three.

    The mid to high 70s scores for so many teams are quite ridiculous. So the scores have ratcheted up this season. There's always no end in site with this numbers game.

    Apparently during the pairs practices, Vanessa and Morgan were a big hit with the crowd. :) I hope they relax and have fun in the fp.
     
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  19. Mad for Skating

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    I agree the 50 shades theme suits them but they've already skated it twice in a row - remember, I put a spell on you (2015-16 season SP) is a 50 shades song. I do think that power-struggle couple factor really works for them though; in their partnership I see a definite spark of two very strong people colliding.
    Anything sexy would really fit them. I'm thinking something like Ariana Grande's "Into You"?
     
  20. cocotaffy

    cocotaffy Politicking for P/C to skate on whale sounds

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    Great performance at WTT in the SP, finishing first even though it was clearly not T/M's day is still a great confidence booster at the end of the season.
     
  21. SkateFanBerlin

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    M/C are one of the miracles of the season. From being an also ran to medal contender in one season - wow! They were cautious today. They were so exciting at Euros. Lots of sexy options possible (like S/K's Manfred program)
     
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  22. aftershocks

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    ^^ You mean J/C. Their last names are so easy to mix up. :D But I have to disagree that J/C changed in one season. It has been a long process of trying to improve and then to be finally rewarded. They were good last season too. But the switch to Zimmerman and revamping their choreography and fp music choice as well as ratcheting up throw jump difficulty, and improving their competitive mindset, has yielded dividends.

    Apparently Tarasova suffered a leg injury during practices at Worlds. That's why her leg is wrapped. Vlad's blade cut her leg and she had to get stitches. I don't understand why Stolbova/Klimov weren't sent instead to WTT. Give Tarasova a chance to heal and to gear up for next season.

    There's always so much stupidity and unfair politics in figure skating. Anyway, we can still see that the judges were getting ready to class T/M at 79 or 80 again if they had skated to their usual consistent level. Very sad when a 66 is given to an error-strewn program/ subpar performance. And a pair that skate their hearts out cleanly with desire and fire, and with the hardest sbs triples (Cain/LeDuc) are lowballed at 59. SMH --While I don't quibble so much with overall pairs placements, many of the scores are clearly reputation-politics-based. C/L deserved at least a score in the low 60s, with better GOE and PCS.

    At least Vanessa and Morgan were given their due, but it's taken years of struggle. I am tired of people saying J/C lack polish and need to improve their skating skills. Everyone who is not Patrick Chan can stand to improve their skating skills, even the vaunted Russians! James/Cipres rock! They are along with Sui/Han and Sav/Mas, one of the top most exciting teams to watch in pairs skating. :cheer2:

    T/M have made some improvements to their presentation, but they are still boring. They still need to connect more, and they still need help with packaging. They never deserved 80-range scores this season, not even with consistent, clean performances.
     
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  23. firstflight

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    That look he gives right into the camera at the beginning of their SP....pure sex.
     
  24. Mad for Skating

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    I'll admit, I didn't start watching J/C until Euros this year. They have a LOT of potential. It's true they don't skate as fast as, say, Stolbova/Klimov, but they are great performers and so technically strong. And between Vanessa's skintight unitards and Morgan's sexy looks, I'm sure no one is watching their blades lol. Definitely a pair I'm going to keep my eye on.
     
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  25. justtojoke

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    So Zimmerman looks to have gotten a 'trim' but his luscious locks are still intact. I feel cheated myself:lol:
     
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  26. cocotaffy

    cocotaffy Politicking for P/C to skate on whale sounds

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    Such a great end to the season, nailed it today too and they got so much support from audiences all over the world this year. I'm very happy for them. They bring a special emotion and a modern look to pairs, I just hope they can keep on this trajectory for next year and play spoilers for the podium. Aljona, sui and Vanessa on the podium, now that would be an amazing site indeed. (the guys are not bad either :D)
     
  27. Mad for Skating

    Mad for Skating Active Member

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    Vanessa and Morgan were awesome in the FS! New PB! Hats off to them for keeping it together like that.
     
  28. whiteskates

    whiteskates Well-Known Member

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    That sounds of silence FP is so good that I hope they keep it for next season.
     
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  29. Mad for Skating

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    I'm all for that. It's definitely the most powerful program I've ever seen them do and I enjoy it.