Discussion in 'Great Skate Debate' started by ~tapdancer~, Mar 10, 2013.
Just watched C/S & S/K sps on youtube. Not bad at all.
They both have HUMONGOUS 3twists (should receive +GOE), and if Simon hadn't fallen on his sbs jump they would definitely be a few points ahead of where they are at now, and except for that slight forward landing on the throw 3S by Alexa they too would be ahead by at least a point. Btw C/S's throw 3S was OUT-OF-THIS-WORLD!!!!
It's definitely going to be a dogfight for the two teams that make the Olympics next year. And if John hadn't sustained that hip injury & subsequent surgery afterwards, I would have had him & Caydee ahead by a mile! Now, however, I'm not so sure. IF they skate like they skated before the surgery, then *definitely* 210% they're on the team, as they are miles ahead of everyone else. But if they're not quite up to par because of John's hip then all bets are off.
Then again I'm thinking how McLaughlin & Brubaker were considered a sure thing, then look what happened! So either way all bets are off. Seriously, whomever wants it the most will be the victor, after all to the victor go the spoils.
My only regret, I wish the Americans (and for that matter the world) had a truly magnificent artistic team in the vein of G&G. *sigh* This is why I haven't been interested in pairs (except for the Americans) in over a decade. I do like power pairs and big jumps, twists, et al, but if only there was one that truly had it all. The artistic qualities of Donlan/Speroff combined wth the power of D/C, C/S, S/K. Hmmm, I'm thinking Aaron/Settlage are the ones, they combine both exquisitely. Fingers crossed for when they finally enter seniors.
GOOOOOOOOOOO C/S & S/K, EARN 2 SPOTS FOR THE OLYMPICS NEXT YEAR!!!
According to what's being said on the World's Pairs SP thread, the U. S. has already qualified 2 entries for the Olympics. This is because they are among the 16 that made it to the free program.
Edit: After rereading--They could only lose the 2 spots if Kemp/King overtake both of them.
Do you have a link?? Please??
Please check the threads on the TV alert page.
I think that the original choreography of Scimeca and Knierim's short program was fantastic: it fit their style very well and brilliantly camouflaged their greatest weakness by making it look like a deliberate choice that augmented the mood and tone of the music. It takes a skilled choreographer to do that - but moreover, a clever choreographer who understands both her skaters and her judges. However, the program requires a quiet confidence and Scimeca/Knierim seemed shaky today; they weren't into their knees and ankles, which often happens when skaters get nervous. They seemed rushed, which also contributed to the program not working to its full potential. to Scimeca for hanging onto the 3FTh: very few girls could have landed that thing on one foot. (They both contributed to the of the takeoff, but the landing was all her.)
Looking at the PCS, both U.S. pairs would have to have a meltdown of epic proportions to both move behind Kemp and King (who should be very, very proud of their short program): Scimeca and Knierim have four points on Kemp and King and Castelli and Shnapir have over 6.5 points on Kemp and King in PCS alone. That says quite a bit about the judges' opinions of the three teams. Of course, ice is slippery.
Well Alexa & Chris will most definitely finish in the top 10 at their first Worlds!
They blew the Italians away and rightfully so. However, I feel kinda bad for C/S, they did everything they could, but really need that throw 4S in order to make a move on the big stage. Jmho.
Great job by both American pair teams though, and they both earned 2 spots for next year's Olympics, Yippee!
Lynn Rutherford ‏@LynnRutherford
Mixed zone-Dalilah Sappenfield revealed Vancouver choreographer Mark Pillay will likely do ScimecaKnierim FS for next season. #FSWorlds13
Pillay choreographed Dornbush's "With or Without You"/U2 SP this season. More info about him on this club's site: http://www.vancouverskatingclub.ca/mark_pillay.html
Thanks Sylvia. I love the choreo for Dornbush's SP. Excited to see what Pillay comes up with for Scimeca/Knierim.
Are there any other of his programs that are available on youtube, would you know?
Pillay has choreographed Canadian Liam Firus' programs for many years now - I enjoy watching him skate. ETA: Pillay choreographed both of Kirsten Moore-Towers/Dylan Moscovitch's programs this season.
I see a renaissance percolating in US pairs.
Even if they're not getting big results at the moment, I think starting by '14 Worlds and down the road to Pyeongchang '18, we might start seeing US teams do enough to get 3 spots again- outside of our highest scorers: D/C and C/S. All of S/K, K/O and Z/B have suddenly shown themselves to be worthy rivals and easily able to achieve scores around 170 points internationally. Additionally, I look forward to D/B. If Rockne was able to get a top 10 Worlds result with MBM, then the potential for this pair is great as well. Finally, we have World Junior Champs D/F getting a boost and who knows what we will see with talents like the eye-catching L/L or Y/R (I'll reserve judgment on that last team until they actually perform).
It's a deeper field than I've ever seen going back over a decade. I think this is a situation where with so many possibilities, that at least 2 of all of the above listed pairs will blossom to full potential, or am I reaching for the stars?
It's going to probably take a couple years at least to get 3 spots back. S/S no doubt are going to retire and maybe so are V/T so what you have left are the Canadians and a couple lesser Russian teams. China seems to be out of it for the moment since P/T can't go on forever.
^I wonder how much longer K/S are going to be around, too.
Duhamel is 28 I believe. I also remember reading somewhere that she is planning to retire after Sochi.
Another great thing for Scimeca/Knierim is that their top 10 placement earns them increased funding (A envelope) for next season
They're also guaranteed two GPs next season
I really liked M-T/M's programs, especially the short! Will be great to see what Pillay can do for S/K.
Just saw on IN that S/K have been asked to skate in the World's Gala!
Michael Johnson US Junior Pairs is off IPS
Article after the Pairs FS at Worlds: http://espn.go.com/blog/olympics/post/_/id/3653/for-u-s-pairs-teams-longevity-is-key
Excerpt from Phil Hersh's Pairs FS article:
Wondering if anyone knows when D/B's first competition or exhibition will be? Excited to see them.
I would assume they will want to take advantage of any number of summer comps due to the fact that 1) they are a new pair; and 2) it is an Olympic year. I think we will see them at Skate Detroit and / or Indy Challenge. Both are in the Midwest and near their rink (I think they are located w/ Johnny Johns in OH???)
Also, perhaps they will compete an SP only or something like that at Liberty, similar to D/C back when they were a newly formed pair?
Lindsay Davis/Rockne Brubaker train in Canton, Michigan with Johnny Johns and Marina Zoueva. I believe Lindsay Davis just recently started training in Canton.
Re-posting the February 19 article that announced their partnership: http://www.icenetwork.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20130219&content_id=41779584&vkey=ice_news
"Five favorite things with Scimeca and Knierim":
Cute! Alexa seems to have such a fun personality.
Anyone think that Alexa could pass for Gracie Gold's older sister?
What's really funny is that Alexa's red costume looks a lot like Gracie's SP costume, and in their FS, S/K are skating to the same music as Gracie's FS (Life is Beautiful).
John Coughlin tweeted earlier today: "On our way back from an incredible week with Julie Marcotte!"
"I like to do rhinestone things." LOL. Me too.
This is a good sign. They are starting early and going to a good choreographer. But, I hope they can pace themselves, and I also hope Julie helps them think outside the box and doesn't give them classical or pageant-like programs. As stated previously in several threads, that doesn't work for them.
Competition update: Castelli/Shnapir will represent Team USA at World Team Trophy, April 11-14 in Tokyo, Japan (which means they won't be performing in their club's "Ice Chips" show the same weekend). Denney/Frazier are listed as the WTT pair alternates.
Florida article on Haven Denney & Brandon Frazier's Junior Worlds win (includes quotes from John Zimmerman): http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/...rs-world-champs-0326-20130325,0,7102947.story
"The pair, which has been in Montreal recently choreographing new programs before their next major competition this June in Detroit, ..." (It sounds like they're working with Julie Marcotte in Montreal again this season.)
Skate Detroit is July 23-27, 2013.
There's a new(?) pairs competition in Fort Wayne, Indiana, June 7-8, held in conjunction with USFS' National Pairs Camp
June 7-9, 2013:
Technical Feedback Sessions: Saturday, June 8 (afternoon)
Half-day Seminar: Saturday, June 8 (afternoon/evening)
Competition Announcement (includes Test Session, Program Critiques, Pair Tryouts, PSA Rating Exams): http://www.fortwayneiceskatingclub.org/2013 Fort Wayne Pairs Classic announcement.pdf