Due to some serious thread drift in the Rachael Flatt thread in GSD, it was suggested to start a U.S. Men's thread. Who's in and who's out of the good graces of the USFSA / Nats. judges? How would you rank them? What must each of the top men do to make the US team? Improve? I would say Dornbush is a shaky #1. He seems to be on his way to a Quad and experience will help improve his PCS. Rippon needs his 3x's back to keep even with Dornbush. I don't know what it will take for him to get there, whether the loss of the 3x is a state of mind or a technical issue. I hope his new coach helps him. I don't even know how to judge Abbott. In the twilight of his career, he really needs to bring it this next season with clean performances, a Quad, and realize his potential in the PCS dept. to have a fighting chance, both nationally and internationally, otherwise the judges will overlook him. IF he does that [a long shot], he could be #1. Miner and Mahbanoozadeh are probably just behind these 3 if they are clean but spoilers if Rippon and Abbott underachieve, but in what order? Armin has more appeal, but perhaps Miner is a little more solid. If Armin skates like he did at Nats, he could be in front of Miner. Both have more or less the same technical abilities [2 3x's and the rest of the triple jumps] What will we see from Mroz? He can execute a Quad and looked good in the GP series but fell apart at Nats. He could be totally overlooked as well if he doesn't execute clean programs. He needs clean programs with Quads to fight with the men above, just because his PCS and non-jump elements are not as good as most of the men above. I think Messing will need a little more time and finesse to challenge. Plus, he's not quite consistent yet. Also, I wonder if his Elvis Stojko Jr. look will be well-received by judges overall when there are other men to choose the US team from. Jason Brown? Needs to get at least a 3x, then could possibly rocket up the standings. I hope he holds it together. Buh-bye Bradley. Even with 2 Quads in the LP at Worlds, and a Quad in combo in the SP, he was still behind Quadless Dornbush and Miner. But, he is retiring anyway. Lysacek and Weir should not joke about coming back in this quadrennial unless they are prepared to practice Quads. I don't see that happening. Highly Unlikely! More urgently than ever, the Quad is going to mean something now, and the men need to step it up with the jumps to challenge internationally, much moreso than the last 2 quadrennials.