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Skating 'queen' Kim set to return (Threads merged)

Discussion in 'Great Skate Debate' started by Sugar, Dec 4, 2012.

  1. riveredge

    riveredge Active Member

  2. Shaia

    Shaia Active Member

    A new German article about NRW Trophy that starts today:

    [English Translation - courtesy of Eclair from yunaforum.com]
    The figure skating world is looking at Dortmund

    When world stars attend B-rate competitions, dearly treasured normality goes derail. This is experienced by the management of the NRW-Trophy in Dortmund, which until now was characterized by being a regional figure skating event with only a reasonable fan-block.

    But this belongs to the past. From today to sunday, a young lady from Korea turns everything upside down. Kim Yu-Na, 2010 Olympic gold medalist in figure skating, holds court in Dortmund. And one might almost say that the whole figure skating world is watching Dortmund. Film crews from Korea, Japan and the USA are coming, requests are overwhelming. Everyone wants a TV-signal for live TV-coverage. Within a few hours all tickets were sold out. Fan groups from Korea and Japan are flying to Westfalen to experience Kim Yu-Na live. Too bad, that all the Asians seemed to think, that the competition will be held in the big ice rink. Wrong: The competition will be held next-door, in the figure skating centrum (I don't know the english name for the rink), which will only provide enough space for a handful of audience. "We can't offer more than 200 seats.", organizer Frieder Dieck had to admit.

    The limited space is one problem, another the technical requirements for TV broadcasts. "I can barely sleep, when I'm merely thinking about it. This is a whole new league", Uwe Kisker admitted. To meet the requirements he will have to greatly improvise. The TV man probably will be dealing with the biggest challenge of his life.

    The media hype around the mulit-millionaire Kim Yu-Na is huge. The Olypmic champion, who, despite of her many fans and worshippers at home, seems to be known as being down-to-eath and easy to care of, is going to come with an escort of 9 persons. "As for extra-wishes, her management only asked for additional ice-time and a seperate shuttle.", said Ulrike Swillims from the figure skating centrum Dortmund. The hotel, in which she's going to reside, remains even after repeated demands, a secret.

    What else is happening in Dortmund? A lot of stars. From 38 nations, 223 sportswomen and sportsmen are going to come. Among them are exotic figure skating nations as Puerto Rico, the Philippines or Thailand. Though 7-time European champion Jewgeni Plusheko has cancelled his entry, the dream-duo of figure skating is coming to Dortmund instead. The world champions Aljona Savchnko/Robin Szolkowy are starting on Saturday.
    "Can we come?", their coach Ingo Steuer asked Frieder Dieck. "Of course you can", was the answer. Not completely voluntarily. After all the pair from Chemnitz missed the qualification for the simultaneously planned Grand Prix Final in Sochi due to illness.

    From German perspective, attention is also focused on Isabel Drescher and Nicole Schott. Nico Ulanowsky, last years German junior champion, drops out due to an injury. It's too bad that at least Saturday and Sunday are completely sold out. For Friday there still seems to be some tickets. And everyone in Germany, who is hoping for a live TV broadcast, will also be disappointed. ARD and ZDF didn't express broadcasting interests, neither did Eurosport.

    Article from Peter Kehl

    [End Translation]

    Yuna arrives today, and is physically in very good shape - about 80~90% of her Vancounver condition according to her interview. All signs are indicating that the Queen is really back. :hat1:

  3. Japanfan

    Japanfan Well-Known Member

    I appreciated, rather than adored, Yunah. She just never had that 'wow' or 'magic' factor me. But truth is if she got back in form, she could probably win Worlds this year. The ladies field is a bit lacking at the moment. Which reminds me - where is Kostner this season? Injured?
  4. jiggs

    jiggs Well-Known Member

    She skipped the Grand Prix because she wanted to take a longer rest and is scheduled to compete at Golden Spin Trophy in 2 weeks.
  5. kwanfan1818

    kwanfan1818 I <3 Kozuka

    If Kim is 80% of what she was in Vancouver, then she'd be looking at TES of around 35 in SP and 62 in the FS, which is well over the 28/48 she'd need for the World TES minimums. That's a little bit more than the 32.97 TES in the SP and 61.72 TES in FS she scored at 2011 Worlds. There, she did 3Lz, 3F/2T, and 2A, plus L3 steps and L4 spins in the SP, and the base for that program is 28.5, which shows how high the TES minimum actually is. (The minimum for 4C's/Euros is 20, and the base value for the easiest jumps to fulfill the requirements -- 3T/2T, 2A, 3S -- plus 3-L1 spins and L1 FW is 20.2.) In the FS, she singled the T in the 3S combo and singled the flip, but she did not get a single -GOE on any element.
  6. misskarne

    misskarne #AustraliaForTheTeamEvent

    "additional ice time and a seperate shuttle".

    Wow. Isn't there a thread in the Trash Can about "entitled" skaters? Maybe this belongs there.

    And as suspected, the Yunabots got all the tickets, and real skating fans who want to see other skaters have missed out.
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  7. alilou

    alilou Crazy Stalker Lady

    And you know this how?
  8. os168

    os168 Active Member

    Actually this comment definitely belong there, also known as the "entitled" trolls thread.
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  9. lowtherlore

    lowtherlore New Member

    I think you’re mistaken. She's RENTING additional ice time at a nearby practice rink. And it’s reasonable for her to arrange for a shuttle van since she has some company (a group of nine including her coaches). I assume she’s paying for that too.

    Your comment on Yu-Na fans is quite rude. Are you saying the fans, who go distance to see her from Korea, other parts of Europe, and Japan, are not real fans? Every fan has his/her favorites, and all fans want to see exceptional athletes live. They had no better chance than others when it comes to getting the seats.

    I can’t wait to see Yu-Na's new programs -- the routine, the music cut, the costume, everything! It’s great the event organizers are making extra efforts to provide good TV coverage.
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  10. jatale

    jatale New Member

    For me, Yuna is the most brilliant female skater since Michelle Kwan. Period. BUT, everybody has their own favorites, just like we all have our own favorite singers, etc. Nevertheless, regardless of how some skating fans feel about her, her return to skating will bring much needed attention to ladies figure skating, and that IS a good thing.
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  11. Sylvia

    Sylvia Prepping for club comp. season!

  12. ratatouille

    ratatouille New Member

    Yuna is back and her bots are back too !
  13. taf2002

    taf2002 zexy demon

    "Jewgeni Plusheko"? I've never seen anyone else ever call him this.

    Has anyone actually seen what Yuna can do now? How many comeback skaters say that they aren't competitive any longer? She says 80% of Vancouver...she can say whatever percentage she wants but until she competes neither she nor anyone else really knows. And the fact that she didn't UR or that she did great 3/3's almost 3 yrs ago doesn't mean squat now. But good for Dortmund that she sold some tickets for them.
  14. l'etoile

    l'etoile New Member

    What a way to ruin the amicable air. Granted, they go overboard sometimes, but comments like this really make Yuna fans unwelcome here. Even when there have been no OTT, 'bot'-like comments here.

    True. This weekend will be really interesting for many aspects!
  15. antmanb

    antmanb Well-Known Member

    It will be the transliteration from Cyrillic to the German as it's a German newspaper article - if you pronounce the "j" and the "w" as you would in German you get Yevgeni.
  16. genevieve

    genevieve drinky typo pbp, closet hugger Staff Member

    let's keep the racial slurs out of this, mkay? :rolleyes:
  17. kwanfan1818

    kwanfan1818 I <3 Kozuka

    Exactly. It might be the same as in Polish. It looks like a slur to English-speakers, but it's standard spelling in other languages.
  18. Carolla5501

    Carolla5501 Well-Known Member

    Are you being at all realistic? It's FSU and you want "nice" LOL!
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  19. essence_of_soy

    essence_of_soy Well-Known Member

    Good that she's getting in a few competitions before Four Continents and Worlds. I remember thinking when Kim skated in Moscow, how she was a little rusty.
  20. AxelAnnie

    AxelAnnie Well-Known Member

    Well, "comebacks" always make me sad. I saw Yu-Na win her World Title in Los Angeles. Stunning! I was amazed and awed by her performances in Vancouver.

    That being said, here is what makes me sad. They can't come back. Is there a single skater, and OGM winner who has "come back"? Especially Yu-na. Don't get me wrong, I would love to watch her skate again. What went into creating the skater who put together those two winning performances IMHO, cannot be duplicated. Yu-Na lived in a bubble, and was totally focused, and completely relieved of any other responsibilities. Now she has had a couple of years of being a normal human (albeit a very wealthy and revered woman).....I don't think it is possible to return and/or re-create who you were or how you got there. It is that "How you going to keep 'em down on the farm.........."

    It is one thing to be devoid of the normal freedom of life when you know nothing else....but I think it is way too hard to shut it off and out once you have experienced it.

    Hope I am wrong. Because I hate it when a sports figure stays too long at the fair, or tries to compete after they should.
  21. taf2002

    taf2002 zexy demon

    If you haven't seen any "bot-like" comments it's because you haven't read the whole thread. But I've never seen anything to make me think that Yuna-FANS aren't welcomed here.
  22. Vash01

    Vash01 Fan of Yuzuru, Medvedeva, T&M, Shibs, P&C

    Plushenko came back, after being away 3.5 years, and won the Olympic silver (just missed the OGM), at aage 27!

    Yu na is not that old. She can make a comeback, after being away for just 2 seasons.
  23. liv

    liv Well-Known Member

    I didn't get the hype with her either, I always preferred Mao. That being said, she is a world and Olympic champion, so if she is up to her old standards, she is in the mix for sure. Good luck to her becuase that means more drama for the rest of us!!!! :D
  24. naan

    naan New Member

    With Yuna haters and some other bots... :shuffle:

    From NRW facebook page
  25. UMBS Go Blue


    EYS. Not to mention it's really more like a break of just 1 or 1.5 seasons for Yuna given that her last comp was 2011 Worlds, sat out 2012 Worlds, and has been quietly getting back up to speed over Fall 2012.

    Also, given the lack of depth in ladies' skating today and the fact that the other main contenders aren't really pushing the envelope, Yuna would easily do well even if she gets back to only 90% of her Vancouver abilities (she says she's 80% now).
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  26. lowtherlore

    lowtherlore New Member

    Those are reasonable concerns.

    Before making the return, Yu-Na said on several occasions that she was hesitant because she couldn&#8217;t enjoy the pressure coming from the huge expectations and that she wasn&#8217;t sure if she could go back to the monotone life bared down to repetitions, endurance and determination (though IMO this part was sort of self-inflicted by her own damned work ethic). In making the comeback announcement she said, bottom line, she would be regretful later in her life if she quit at a young, eligible age. I thought that made a lot of sense.

    Yesterday, she said she had set her mind to lower her own expectation, and that made her relaxed more and her training more enjoyable. That&#8217;s a good sign, and it feels that she will follow up until Sochi. In a similar context, all these doubts (about the prospect of her repeat) would be actually relieving to her, my guess. She may not win them all like before, but it&#8217;s likely she will be fairly successful with her comeback if she stay healthy (knock, knock). Seeing her competitive programs for two more seasons is just a huge bonus for the fans like me and for the sport IMO, whether she&#8217;s winning or not. :)
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  27. EricRohmer

    EricRohmer New Member

    Well said, lowtherlore. :)

    Because Yuna lowered her own expectation, I as a fan would lower expectation though being difficult.
    I would enjoy her extended career like as a gift.
  28. Japanfan

    Japanfan Well-Known Member

    And why would she need a team of nine to come to the rink with her? :confused:


    1 coach
    1 choreographer
    1 hair stylist
    1 make-up artist
    1 costume person
    1 photographer
    2 bodyguards
    1 sports psychologist
  29. l'etoile

    l'etoile New Member

    Makeup artist, hair stylist, photographer? What kind of person do you take Yuna for?

    Two coaches,
    her agent,
    a couple of translaters,
    her physical therapist,
    one federation personnel,
    two other Korean skaters who are competing at NRW trophy,
    and Yuna herself.

    I might be wrong but that is pretty much what you would expect for Yuna with eight companies.
    Last edited: Dec 6, 2012
  30. AxelAnnie

    AxelAnnie Well-Known Member

    Hey thanks for the great post. iI feel better now. I will it will be thrilling to watch. And I think this will help me enjoy it as a gift Nd not a sttuggle
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