No, I don't think she was deliberately trying to do so either. As I said in my post, I don't doubt her good intentions. But when altai_rose says that because there are people who are physically worse off, then she feels she has "no right to give up", then I think this is sending the wrong kind of message to those who are severely depressed. Implicit in the words "no right to give up" is the idea that everyone can get better if they really try. And I've felt too suicidal and seen far too many suicides to believe that. There isn't always light on the horizon, and hope does sometimes die. I won't be saying any more about this, as it's Gazpacho's thread and I don't wish to derail it any further.