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Seeking information about the CoP

Discussion in 'Moves In The Field' started by DannyCurry, Nov 15, 2010.

  1. DannyCurry

    DannyCurry Active Member

    I don't know if I'm putting this in the right section. If not, please move it to another one.

    Okay, I'm currently working on the terminology of figure skating (exciting subject, isn't it?) and I'm having trouble finding some information on the ISU website. I thought you guys would know the answers to my questions.

    1/How are the rules written? Is it by a committee of skaters, technical specialists, or other people?

    2/Is there any official document about the discussions that led to the implementation of the CoP?

    3/Any magazine, conference report paper, book, in which the CoP is debated?

    4/Where is it possible to find pre-2004 rules? Basically those about the 6.0 system??

    And I might have some other questions that I'll add later on. Haven't worked on this assignment (well, to be more accurate, it's my dissertation) for a while because I've been so busy with other uni stuff..

    My aim is to show the evolution of FS terminology analyzing the rules books..
    For instance, I'm not sure that terms such as "Grade of execution", "technical caller", or "edge call" were used before the CoP was implemented.

    So far, I haven't collected many sources, only those I found on the ISU website:
    as well as the 'special regulations and technical rules' for 2010.

    Oh and I forgot, one of my supervisors is quite ticklish, he inquired about the possible interference of the Olympic committee with the ISU members that could result in rules change. Does anyone know about this?? :cold:

    Any information about this topic would be greatly appreciated.
    Thanks in advance!
  2. Aussie Willy

    Aussie Willy Hates both vegemite and peanut butter

    Hopefully I can answer some of these

    Question 1 - there are committees who put together the rules. I think they get elected at the Annual General Meeting. Every year they do a revision of the rules. They are made up by ISU officials who are usually past skaters but now judges, etc. However I think they also are the highest ranking officials (that is ISU ranking).
    Members of the various committees are in this link - http://www.isu.org/vsite/vcontent/p...161657-178872-20148-73966-custom-item,00.html

    Question 2 - you would probably have to go back in the archives of the ISU communications. But I am sure there is plenty of information, articles and archives out there in WWW land which go over the processes that led to IJS development.

    Question 3 - there is plenty of information out there. It is debated non-stop on this forum, but there are books written about it. Sonia Bianchetti who is very critical of the system has a website and I think wrote a book on the subject.

    Question 4 - it is very hard to find the rules pre-2004. They might be in the ISU archives - http://www.isu.org/vsite/vnavsite/page/directory/0,10853,4844-130179-131487-nav-list,00.html.

    Not sure if that helps, but I can only say you are going to have to do quite a lot of looking at the ISU website and a lot of googling.

    As for the Olympics getting involved, the skandal that prompted IJS to be develop happened at the Olympics. I think the ISU were told by the IOC to get their act together and work out a way to reduce the corruption. And Speedy is a member of the IOC.
  3. Sylvia

    Sylvia Still recovering from Worlds...

    Here's the section on Skateweb about the One-by-One (OBO) scoring system that was passed at the 1998 ISU Congress: http://www.frogsonice.com/skateweb/obo/

    ISU Council's proposals for the 2004 ISU Congress: http://www.frogsonice.com/skateweb/articles/publius/

    Sonia Bianchetti's official site: http://www.soniabianchetti.com/

    George Rossano's site (ISIO) has archived articles and analyses of the scoring/judging systems from 1996 onwards -- scroll down to the "Features and Editorials" section: http://www.iceskatingintnl.com/archive/index.htm
    Last edited: Nov 15, 2010
  4. DannyCurry

    DannyCurry Active Member

    Sylvia and Aussie Willy, thank you so much for your answers.

    Some more readings to do then, but I'm sure they'll be very helpful.