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Riazanova: I envy myself working with Shpilband

Discussion in 'Great Skate Debate' started by TAHbKA, Aug 22, 2012.

  1. TAHbKA

    TAHbKA Well-Known Member

    Ekaterina Kulinicheva's (EK) interview with Ekaterina Raizanova (ER) for sport-express

    The two times Russian nationals medalists in Ice Dance talks about her work with one of the most famous ice dancing coaches.

    After last season was over Ekaterina Riazanoa with Ilia Tkachenko together with their coach Alexey Gorshkove moved to Canton to join the group of the most successful coaches in ice dance - Marina Zueva/Igor Spilband. After the coaches duo went their separate ways they continued working in Nove Ice Arena with Spilband, which is where they are now.

    EK: Can you tell how is the work going?
    ER: Amazing! I'm so thrilled about working with Igor and with all that goes on here, the athletes - coaches relationship, I'm speechless! A whole team of professionals works with us: ballet coaches, the general PE and a lot of others. Marina Klimova is now here, before that Barbara Fusar-Poli was here and as far as I know she plans to come back. Of course we get very tired with so much work, but it is also so much fun that the tiredness is welcomed. I'm so glad we had the chance to work with Spilband - she is a genious.

    EK: His work is legendary. Can you tell me what your normal day looks like?
    ER: Igor himself comes to the rink at 6.30. We dont' start working so early. First we were mainly working with his wife Adrien, mainly on the lifts. We film everything and see it after. She throws some ideas, fixes the mistakes. After that we have a session with Igor - sometimes it's an hour, hour 15, sometimes two hours. Actually we spend quite a lot of time on the ice. On Wednesday, Monday and Friday we have a general PE. On Thursday and Tuesday - ballet, while we work with the same specialist on the ice as well. We also have Michael, who teaches us the facial expressions and breathing. To sum it up - there is a lot of interesting stuff going on and from the very morning till 3pm we are in a constant move. I like it a lot, it's nothing like it was in Moscow. Even my mother says, when we talk on skype `your eyes are shining' I envy myself being here.

    EK: Spilband has a reputation of the best technical coach in the world. Did he change much in your technique?
    ER: We do many new transitions which we haven't done before. It was very uncomfortable at first, but later it became comfortable. Igor shows some moves on the ice himself. I'm amazed by the way he skates!
    I can't really say he fixed our technique, it's more about the elements: take the step sequences, for example - they look much better now - wider, easier. The gliding and the technique, I think, haven't changed. Though I don't quite remember what it was like before.

    EK: For how long have you, Ilya and Alexey Gorshkov have been to the USA now?
    ER: A month, I reckon, perhaps more. We first came in May, spent two weeks in Canton and choreographed both programmes. We changed the FD in the end though. Then we went back to Moscow, had a vacation, then a camp in Bulgaria where I injured my hand. We were doing a lift - on the floor but wearing the skates. I started to dismount and put my hand on the floor, while Ilya lost his balance and stepped on my finger. After the surgery I didn't skate for about 5 days and then went back to the ice.
    We then went back to the USA, to Spilband this time. But before that we had time to visit our much beloved Tatiana Tarasova. We showed her the video of our programmes. She loved the SP, but for the LP she suggested taking a waltz from the God Father. We gave the music to Igor, and together with Gorshkov they made a mix and started choreographing a new FD.

    EK: What was the first music choice?
    ER: Pink Floyd, Hey You.

    EK: How is your hand now?
    ER: Everything is fine, all works fine. The finger is ok, just a bit shorter.

    * * *

    EK: Going back - how did you, your partner and the coach come to the conclusion you should go across the ocean to Zueva and Spilband?
    ER: I think Gorshkov and Igor spoke about it, if am not mistaken, during the worlds in Nice. We all realized we need new ideas. We had to change something and Igor agreed to help.

    EK: You only name Igor because you ended up working with him? Surely it was agreed by both Zueva and Spilband?
    ER: Actually Gorshkov, Igor, Marina and Ilya were present during that talk. So you'd better ask Ilya.

    EK: Did it come as a shock for you their decision to split?
    ER: I couldn't believe it first. I never thought it was possible. Sure I was upset - it was not clear what do we do now and where do we go. But, thanks god, everything worked out. Igor's group is great and I'm glad it's so.

    EK: You completely settled down in the new place?
    ER: I think so.

    EK: Do you think he recovered fast after what happened? After all the coache's mood is projected on his skaters, and it seems Igor started working in the new place almost immediately.
    ER: I think you should ask him that question. Guess he hated being in that situation, but all and all - he didn't loose much. He works now and it seems things are going well.

    EK: Why have you decided to stay with Spilband?
    ER: I liked Igor better at the first place. So did Ilya. Perhaps because we spent more time working with him in Canton.

    EK: There are many versions why the split happened. Among others - Spilband was worried having too many pupils and another that he wanted to work with some pupils by himself. Were there any signs of either in May?
    ER: No. Everyone were minding their business. I haven't noticed Igor paying less attention to some or more to the others. But I wasn't digging so I can't really tell I know more than anyone else.
    * * *

    EK: What are your plans? Is the training in the USA now the last one or will you come back to Novi before the season begins or during the season?
    ER: Of course we plan to come back. WE hope to do that at the beginning of October to get ready for the Gran Prix.

    EK: How do you see the team right now: do you have two coaches or is Spilband more of a consultant?
    ER: I'd say we have two coaches: Igor and Alexey Gorshkov.

    EK: Will Spilband be with you in the competitions?
    ER: We haven't discussed it, but I hope to see them both. I'd love to have Igor and Alexey there. I got so used to them both, it feels we've been working together for years.

    EK: You must be anticipating showing the results of your work in the Russian test skates. Do you have a feeling the judges will like what you did?
    ER: It's hard to tell, but I hope everyone will be positive. I think our programmes are very good and we improved a lot in skating and mentally. I hope the reaction will be positive.

    EK: Would it be right to say the style of your pair have changed?
    ER: Our programmes differ from what we did before. The music for our SD was suggested by Marina and Igor. They said they see us skating to that music and it should suit us

    EK: When Ilya and you just came to Spilband and Zueva how did you start working? What was the first thing they asked you to do differently?
    ER: They didn't actually quite point on something we should change. It was more the atmosphere that changed us. They mentioned we should glide lighter and stronger. I think we were able to do that.

    EK: The Italians Cappellini/Lanotte joined Spilband's group for the summer. How is working with them?
    ER: Great. In general the mood here is pleasant, everyone supports each other, it feels nice skating here.

    EK: Do you consider the Italians a good sparring partners?
    ER: Of course!

    EK: Do you have anything to learn from them?
    ER: A lot. The presentation for example. When you look at your rivals and realize you'll be competing with them later the season it motivates you. You want to be better even during the trainings. Perhaps it's what were lacking in Odintsovo, where we were the only senior pair last season. We had no one to look up to.

    EK: Deep down are you sorry things happened the way they did and none of the leading pairs joined Spilband, so you don't get a chance to share the ice with Virtue/Moir or Davis/White.
    ER: I don't know. I guess it would be interesting working with them on the same ice, but can't really say am sorry about it. We just don't have time for it -there is so much work to do and we don't have time to think of anything but the practices.

    EK: If the results would be as expected, will you consider moving to the USA for the Olympic season?
    ER: I'm all for it. Frankly, I dont' want to leave. It would be great to continue working here. As much as I miss the family and friends I realize it's what Ilya and I need. I even missed my brother's wedding this summer. It's a shame, but at the same time my family is happy for me.

    EK: I asked this question because when Domnina/Shabalin left Odintsovo and moved to the USA after every interview they gave I had an impression they were suffering in the new place.
    ER: It's completely different for us.
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  2. sap5

    sap5 Well-Known Member

    Interesting interview! ER is very diplomatic. :)
  3. Cherub721

    Cherub721 YEAH!

    Tarasova :mad:
  4. hanca

    hanca Well-Known Member

    OMG!!! :eek:
  5. Macassar88

    Macassar88 Well-Known Member

    We don't need to see ANOTHER waltz from them.
  6. Vash01

    Vash01 Fan of Yuzuru, Medvedeva, T&M, Shibs, P&C

    I have been away for a while and missed out on all the Shpilband news/updates. Where is this Nove ice arena? Is it in Canton or some other city in Michigan?
  7. Pratfall

    Pratfall Active Member

    Dang that woman , anyway !
  8. lauravvv

    lauravvv Well-Known Member

    Yes, Pink Floyd's 'Hey You' would have been much more interesting.

    Thank you for the translation, TAHbKA.
  9. Sylvia

    Sylvia Prepping for club comp. season!

  10. kwanfan1818

    kwanfan1818 I <3 Kozuka

    Thank you so much, TAHbKA!

    I hope they've calmed down some of Tkachenko's facial expressions. I love his skating, especially his posture and carriage, but I found his expressions distracting at times.

    I hate that they all go to Tarasova and take her advice from two decades ago.

    She sounds so happy :cheer2:
  11. analia

    analia Well-Known Member

    I always thought it would be ironic if anybody skates to Pink Floyd's "The Thin Ice".
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  12. TAHbKA

    TAHbKA Well-Known Member

    And has the ice collapsing under them... Now THAT would be a skate!
  13. Macassar88

    Macassar88 Well-Known Member

    I love his OTT emoting
    It's like an homage to Scott Moir
  14. Moka-Ananas

    Moka-Ananas Man's Ruin

    rather an homage to Anjelika Krylova ;)
  15. martyross

    martyross Well-Known Member

    i cant quite figure what she means by 'envying herself'.. unless she thinks of herself as two separate persons..
    seems that this summer everyone is passing out with ecstasy while working with Spilband :-D
  16. kwanfan1818

    kwanfan1818 I <3 Kozuka

    I interpreted it as "I can't believe my luck -- if this happened to someone else, I'd be jealous."
  17. Hanna

    Hanna Politicking for more stationary lifts

    Agreed. :scream: Damn you TT.

    :cheer: for happy Riazanova
  18. Macassar88

    Macassar88 Well-Known Member

    Lol imagine Krylova and Moir skating together with Linichuk choreography! OTT dramatic perfection!!! :swoon::swoon::swoon:
  19. heckles

    heckles Well-Known Member

    One of the best lines from Spinal Tap: "People envy us. I envy us."
  20. Macassar88

    Macassar88 Well-Known Member

  21. sbanet

    sbanet Well-Known Member

    I'm kind of hoping that Tarasova/R+T will be actually using the Godfather Mazurka rather than the Waltz...
  22. Cherub721

    Cherub721 YEAH!

    You got me thinking... could any portions of the Godfather soundtrack be used for a polka and then combined with the waltz create a nice SD? I hate it when dancers use music they could have used for the SD/OD in an FD. I bet R&T will be using the slowest possible version of the main theme, wearing all black, and having another funeral type program.
  23. sbanet

    sbanet Well-Known Member

    Fwiw, here's the Tarantella from the City of Prague Philharmonic performance of Godfather 1 (that's also where the Mazurka posted above came from).
  24. Macassar88

    Macassar88 Well-Known Member

    Hey the Russians will turn anything into a funeral march. Remember the Rumba Latin SD last season? Six Russian dancers, six all black outfits. (Although Bobrova had some silver...)
  25. AYS

    AYS I'd rather have a pug for my president

    I love the whole Godfather soundtrack, so sue me. I think that waltz (if that is what they're skating to) would be wonderful for R/T, but I hope there would be at least one other music cut in there, as the mood and melodic theme of that isn't enough for a full FD.
  26. winterchik

    winterchik Active Member

  27. Ziggy

    Ziggy Well-Known Member

    Damn you Tarasova! :mitchell:

    Riazanova sounds really happy. Do you think they might jump ship and move to the US permanently? Especially given Igor doesn't have that many teams yet.
  28. Cherub721

    Cherub721 YEAH!

    It's sounding that way to me, but I'm thinking there might be some potential for Gorshkov and Shpilband to team up and they are waiting to see if that happens. I wonder if Gorshkov would move his group to the US. I'm only speculating because it's unusual for a team's coach to follow them to summer training with another group, AFAIK.
  29. triple_toe

    triple_toe Well-Known Member

    I immediately thought of This is Spinal Tap.

    Derek Smalls: We're lucky.
    David St. Hubbins: Yeah.
    Derek Smalls: I mean, people should be envying us, you know.
    David St. Hubbins: I envy us.
    Derek Smalls: Yeah.
    David St. Hubbins: I do.
    Derek Smalls: Me too.
  30. ostile17

    ostile17 Well-Known Member

    I think so, and that would be be a very smart choice! Bye-bye :TT1: