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Rank mens Olympic medal winning LPs since 1988

Discussion in 'The Trash Can' started by Kwantumleap, Aug 2, 2010.

  1. Kwantumleap

    Kwantumleap Well-Known Member

    OR make a top 10 list. There was an interesting thread about the ladies, so I decided to make one about the mens :D I chose to go back all the way to 88 since most fans' memories seem to extend back to The Battle of the Brians and that provides a full array of options (21 to be exact). Sorry if it's too many options, again rank the gold medalists instead if you prefer or a top 10 list or something ;)

    Lysacek - Scheherazade
    Plushenko - Tango Amore
    Takahashi - La Strada

    Plushenko - The Godfather
    Lambiel - The Four Seasons
    Buttle - Sampson and Delilah

    Yagudin - Man in the Iron Mask
    Plushenko - Carmen
    Goebel - An American in Paris

    Kulik - Rhapsody in Blue
    Stojko - The Ghost and the Darkness
    Candeloro - D'Artagnan

    Urmanov - Rossini Overtures
    Stojko - Dragon
    Candeloro - The Godfather

    Petrenko - Chopin/Verdi Medley
    Wylie - Henry V
    Barna - Hamlet

    Boitano - Napoleon
    Orser - The Bolt
    Petrenko - Don Quixote
    Last edited: Aug 2, 2010
  2. Kwantumleap

    Kwantumleap Well-Known Member

    I just decided to rank the performances I considered to be in my top 8. My bias is that I didn't care for Plushenko's LP performances in 06 and 10 (great athleticism, but both performances left me cold), so there it is. Aside from that, I'm judging these performances somewhat through 6.0 lenses, since only the past 2 out of the 7 olympics have been judged under CoP and all these skaters grew up under 6.0.

    1. Yagudin - Man in the Iron Mask (2002) the best overall skater, wonderful program, Clean with 2 quads. You couldn't ask for more.
    2. Boitano – Napolean (1988) Minus a two-footed jump, clean, well choreographed, original, and creative. The music cuts were a bit jarring, but he skated as well as he could. Really showed a personal connection with the music, much like Yagudin. Classic performance that made him an icon in the sport.
    3. Lysacek – Scheherazade (2010) a very consistent performance with lots of polish, but was somewhat reserved in comparison to the two above him. A good program, some generic choreography with lots of body touching in the first half, but it was all inspired. No quad, but lots of other content. Genuine skating and emotion.
    4. Plushenko – Carmen (2002) amazing attack and jumps couldn’t help him overcome a 4th place SP, but he skated all out.
    5. Orser – The Bolt (1988) another case of amazing attack and command. A truly wonderful athlete AND interpreter of the music. The turn-out and doubled axel are the reasons I place him below Plushenko who was nowhere near as musical.
    6. Wylie – Henry V (1992) probably the most artistic skater of the bunch. I’d put this program right behind Yagudin had it been skated clean. The quality of his skating stood out a lot in his performances. Amazing skate, but some wonky jumps.
    7. Goebel – An American in Paris (2002) one of Goebel’s better performances from his career, withstood the pressure of skating at home. Wonderful jump layout and choreo, nice costume. 3 quads in one program, I don’t think that had been done before him. A memorable program and likeable skater. One small flaw on the second 3 axel, a turn out, but otherwise excellent.
    8. Kulik – Rhapsody in Blue (1998) had a quad, yet the skate appeared to me conservative or introverted, but pretty clean and pleasant to watch. Didn’t really show much understanding of how to use his arms to interpret the music – they always seemed to just open up. Aside from the awful costume, not a particularly memorable performance or program.
    Last edited: Aug 2, 2010
  3. Zokko!

    Zokko! Comansnala?

    http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/showthread.php?t=74249 ;)

    My ranking there:

    1. Alexei Yagudin - Gold 2002 :encore:
    2. Ilia Kulik - Gold 1998

    (1988 included - 3. Brian Boitano - Gold)

    3. Phillipe Candeloro - Bronze 1998
    4. Daisuke Takahashi - Bronze 2010
    5. Viktor Petrenko - Gold 1992
    6. Alexei Urmanov - Gold 1994
    7. Evgeni Plushenko - Silver 2002
    8. Evgeni Plushenko - Gold 2006

    Guys without getting a medal:
    - Kurt Browning - 1994
    - Johnny Weir - 2010 :swoon:
  4. Kwantumleap

    Kwantumleap Well-Known Member

    whoops, it had been a few months lol my bad. I never even saw it.
  5. blue_idealist

    blue_idealist Well-Known Member

    This isn't based on personal preference. I'm trying to be objective, although I could let bias slip in somewhere..

    1) Plushenko 2002 - Didn't want to do this, since he's one of my least favourite men, but the technical content was crazily difficult and he actually skated with passion and expression, unlike in his 06 and 10 performances.

    2) Yagudin 2002 - it was near-perfect, but Plushenko's LP was slightly better, both technically and artistically, I would say. I'm glad Plushenko fell in the SP so Yagudin would still win the OGM though.

    3) Plushenko 2006 - The technical content was very high, although a bit front-loaded. However, the program was skated with almost a complete lack of passion. He looked like he was just getting the job done. There was also a doubled jump, and did I miss something or was there no triple axel in combination with another triple?

    4) Goebel 2002 - Artistically kind of boring, but I had to put him somewhere near the top of the list with that technical content he included. He wasn't awful enough artistically to shoot him down to the bottom of the list.

    5) Kulik 1998 - Good technical content and pretty good artistry, although he skated young, like the commentator mentioned. His technical content was nowhere near what Plushenko, Yagudin or Goebel were doing, though, and his artistry wasn't leaps and bounds beyond Goebel's.

    6) Lysacek 2010 - His program was skated with more passion than any of the others I've ranked so far, but I had to put him here because he did only triple jumps. If I was going by personal preference, this would probably top my list.

    7) Plushenko 2010 - I didn't want to put this one this high, but I had to because it has to be admitted that he included a lot of difficult jumps, more difficult than most of the other men on this list, although it was a front-loaded program like his 06 one. I have to say his choreography was totally cheesy though!

    8) Stojko 98 - I really wish I could have put this one higher. It was skated with a lot of heart, especially for someone who was in such great pain. However, with no quad and the lack of speed he had in comparison to Evan Lysacek, I had to rank it here.

    9) Takahashi 2010 - I'm ranking this performance quite high up on the list, even though he fell on the quad. His artistry and skating skills were just so amazing and mind-blowing that it deserves to be here. Unlike the falls in some other skaters' performances, which I'll mention lower on the list, his fall didn't take away from his performance at all and he just kept cranking off the triple jumps accompanied by amazing choreography. I think he was lucky that the fall was at the beginning or it might have detracted more from the performance level.

    10) Candeloro 1998 - I dislike this skater, and I disliked this program the first time I saw it. However, I can appreciate the theme and interpretation a lot more than I did years ago. It was excellently interpreted, plus it was technically strong, although it didn't include a quad and some of the landings on the triples were wonky.

    11) Boitano 1988 - This was an amazing performance, but since it was done in 1988 it just lacked some of the technical content the guys were including in later years. Hence, its lower ranking.

    12) Stojko 1994 - It was hard to decide which was better, Boitano 1988 or Stojko 1994. However, I decided to place this program below Boitano's because the singled 3A was like a sore thumb in the middle of goodness. Stojko's artistry also was not at the level that it grew to in 1998, and I found this program skated in a relatively passionless manner.

    13) Wylie 1992 - I'd never seen this one before and was really impressed. He looked so young and cute, lol. What struck me first was his speed. The jumps were great too, for the most part, and this LP was better than the one of the OGM winner that year, Victor Petrenko, IMO.

    14) Orser 1988 - This one's a little lower because of the lower technical content: there was only one triple axel, and it was only in combination with a double, not another triple. Most of the guys on this list were attempting two 3As a program with one in combination with another triple. I know Wylie didn't, but I think he was faster and cleaner in general than Orser. That almost-fall Orser had on one of his triples was pretty ugly, and unfortunately was right in the middle of the performance.

    15) Urmanov 1994 - This program was a little cheesy but I think he accomplished what he was trying to do artistically. I'm just not sure what he was trying to do was that cool, lol. I put this one below Orser because of his bobble on a non-jump element, which caused him to almost run into the boards. For me, something like this severely takes away from the performance, especially when it's an OGM-winning performance.

    16) Candeloro 1994 - This one was okay, but some jump landings were wonky. Artistically, it was pretty good but definitely nowhere near as good as his 1998 performance.

    17) Petrenko 1988 - The technical content was not that high, a lot of doubles, but it was clean and he did do a 3A and a 3-3. His arms were a little awkward at that time, but he seemed to get rid of that problem by 1992, and he was very graceful even in 1988.

    18) Lambiel 06 - I had a hard time ranking this one because I wasn't sure exactly what jumps he was doing. The commentator was speaking in another language. I think there was a quad, but he turned out of it in an odd manner. He also fell once, and almost fell another time on jumps. I know the jumps weren't easy ones, but that many mistakes in a program, especially an OM-winning one, means it has to be ranked low on the list. His artistry was superb, though; it's too bad he couldn't completely keep on top of the jumps.

    19) Petrenko 1992 - I had never seen this complete routine before and my first thought afterward was THIS won an OGM?!!! That is the worst OGM-winning LP from 1988 through to 2010, and it might even be worse than those before 1988, but I haven't seen them so I can't say. So many mistakes - stumble on the 3F, 2L instead of 3L, almost falling on the 3A, and then a singled axel.. gahhh!! Like Lambiel, it's too bad he didn't do the jumps properly, because he IS a very good, graceful skater.

    20) Buttle 2006 - I like Jeff, but there were way too many mistakes to put him any higher than this on the list. He was lucky to get the bronze medal with this performance.

    21) Barna 1992 - I put him last, and lower than Buttle because, first of all, he is incredibly boring while Jeff's program was interesting. Secondly, Barna did do a quad, but no 3As, while Jeff managed to do two 3As, even though he put his hand down after the 2T in the 3A-2T combination. Barna also fell, as Jeff did once (I think it was only once), but Jeff fell on a quad while Barna's fall was on the easier 3F. Like Buttle, Barna was lucky to win a bronze with this particular performance.

    Overall, it seems like 2002 was the best year for men's skating at the Olympics, with 2006 as a close second. Unfortunately, men's skating maybe suffered a bit in 2010. It looks like the worst year for Olympic men's skating was 1992.
  6. Jaana

    Jaana Well-Known Member

    Again, as in other thread I´m rating only the gold medal FS performances and they are in the order of how much I appreciated the programme, interpretation, skater´s skating style and person on the ice (and not based on having one or more quads):

    1. Evan Lysacek, wonderful performance and arms are so nicely controlled according to the beautiful choreography
    2. Ilia Kulik - the arms disturb me a bit, otherwise great performance. He has the most beautiful jumps.
    3. Alexei Urmanov - for saving me from Stojko becoming the Olympic champion, besides I liked his programme also. He looks great on the ice, what a grand posture!
    4. Alexei Yagudin - never liked the skater or his look on the ice, besides he was better in 2002 Worlds fs
    5. Evgeni Plushenko - not a choreography I enjoyed much
    6. Brian Boitano - it looks technically pk, but his presentation does not appeal to me
    7. Viktor Petrenko - not a good performance