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Post-Worlds Retirements

Discussion in 'The Trash Can' started by haribobo, Apr 30, 2011.

  1. judgejudy27

    judgejudy27 Well-Known Member

    As for my guesses to who will retire:

    Miki Ando
    Brian Joubert (maybe after 2012 though)
    Pechalat & Bourzat
    Fumie Suguri

    I dont think Kim or Mao have any plans to retire. Kim skated at about 45% of her potential at this years Worlds and still nearly won it, if she starts to actually train again she will be easily back on top unless the Russian babies come on gangbusters. Mao wouldnt do all that work to rework her technique then leave.
  2. Jenna

    Jenna Well-Known Member

    Even if P/B skated well and earned bronze, S/S would have been 4th which is no small feat for a team debuting at Senior Worlds!

    I do agree with you saying that D/W should continue on. It seemed as though they could never place above a clean V/M and now that it happened once, perhaps they will gain a bit of momentum. S/S are still far from them..they have nothing to worry about.
  3. judgejudy27

    judgejudy27 Well-Known Member

    I forgot to add some other retirements I predict:

    Kavaguti & Smirnov (unfortunately, hope I am wrong)
    Pang & Tong (also unfortunately if it happens)
    Evora & Ladwig
    Rachael Flatt (mostly due to school commitments)

    and in the not too distant future (1 year max):

    Caroline Zhang
    Ashley Wagner
    Kevin Reynolds
    Cynthia Phaneuf
    Maria Mukhortova
  4. millipied

    millipied New Member

  5. judgejudy27

    judgejudy27 Well-Known Member

    If she cant find a partner up to her level, if she cant have a real shot of making it back onto a Russian World team, and if that is the case she cant released to skater for a less competitive country where she could atleast make the team, what would motivate her to continue.
  6. judgejudy27

    judgejudy27 Well-Known Member

    Maria wont continue skating if what she is left with is trying to make the Russian team skating with Jerome Blanchards (with all due respect to him).
  7. bek

    bek Guest

    But does Kim have the motivation to do all the work to be on top again? Yu-na has already won everything. I can't imagine how stressfull it is with the Skate Mom from Hell, and the Yuna bots/entire nation of Korea putting all of that pressure on her. She might be able to win worlds next year if she trains, but it will be difficult once the younger Russian wonderbabes come on to the scene.

    I think its perfectly understandable if Yu-na retires, and I get the feeling from her interviews that she kind of wants too.

    Mao may stay in at least for another year to see if she can get to the place where she can win in Sochi. (If her results still go down hill then maybe she'll move on) But Mao has the motivation of OGM that she hasn't won.
  8. judgejudy27

    judgejudy27 Well-Known Member

    If Yu Na knew this was her last year she would have probably gone all out to go out with a bang, which is obviously far removed from what she did this season. I doubt she wants to go out with a weak performance (for her) and a loss. And who knows how great the Russian babies will be or not in the coming years. I saw them skate at World Juniors though and both still have alot of improvement left at this point though.
  9. orbitz

    orbitz Well-Known Member

    Seeing how Kim was tearing up on the medal podium, I have a strong hunch she will be very motivated to return next season and reclaim her world crown (but please don't use David Wilson :p). I can't imagine she is satisfied with losing Worlds back to back like this.

    If Mao still has under-rotation issue next season then the OGM might be hopeless.
  10. miki88

    miki88 Active Member

    Mao is definitely not retiring. She already set her goals for Sochi and she's not someone to give up halfway. This hasn't been a good season for her but I sense she might have been affected by the delay. Her error on the spin was really unexpected.

    I'm not sure about Yuna. I mean if her goal was really to win back her title, wouldn't it have been smart to at least do 4CC? In interviews, she seemed to just want to perform for her fans. And since there are talks that pro-skating competition is coming back, I think she could retire and turn pro.

    I heard Miki was taking the year off next season. But she may come back for Sochi.
  11. bbkenn

    bbkenn Well-Known Member

    I disagree. Yes, they'll be pushed, but I don't think we'll see retirements from either V&M or D&W. They are still very young, and still have alot to learn. I can't wait until next year.
  12. bbkenn

    bbkenn Well-Known Member

  13. bbkenn

    bbkenn Well-Known Member

    I am not sure a "clean" one shot V&M is the best standard. They need to beat them fair and square when both teams are at their best.
  14. Loves_Shizuka

    Loves_Shizuka The Stolbova/Klimov and James/Cipres Uber

    I want Kim to stay, if only for selfish reasons. Sochi with Kim, a better Mao, Miki, Adelina, Liza plus the Americans, Kostner and a few others could be AMAZING.

    However, I'm not sure about Yu-Na. Her heart, quite understandably doesnt seem in it. She's been under so much pressure, for so long, and achieved pretty much everything, that I sense the bubble has really burst for her. I have my doubts as to whether she has the strength, or desire, to get back that intensity back.
  15. riveredge

    riveredge Active Member

    For selfish reason I want Yuna to stay. Simply because her LP has a potential. ;)

    But the reality is I just want Yuna to enjoy her life. Like she said she wanted to travel, go to college this time, etc.
  16. sashaweir

    sashaweir New Member

    ok.. mao is NOT retiring.... she is reworking her techinique solely for sochi... so that rumor or wish is not going to happen... D/W i highly doubt will retire.. theyve only been on top of the game, with V/M for 2 years.. they have a lot they can still win, and im sure one being the olympics... ando is taking next year off to rest and prepare for 2014, so she has no plans to retire... kostner said she doesnt want to retire without winning an olympic medal... not to mention she is having her knee surgery after this season then preparing for sochi....fumie, which she should retire, but she has said she plans to continue... why i dont know?!!

    flatt should retire,... but i dunno.... i guess we will see... she will continue to sink in the standings... this year was most likely her last chance to claim any sort of world medal....so i do hope she moves on
  17. casken

    casken Well-Known Member

    2007 Worlds
    3 Tanith Belbin / Benjamin Agosto 195.43
    7 Meryl Davis / Charlie White 179.14

    Difference 16.29

    2011 Worlds
    1 Meryl DAVIS / Charlie WHITE 185.27
    3 Maia SHIBUTANI / Alex SHIBUTANI 163.79

    Difference 21.48

    Are those extra 5 points really that insurmountable?
  18. Loves_Shizuka

    Loves_Shizuka The Stolbova/Klimov and James/Cipres Uber

    I know she wasn't at worlds, but what Akiko Suzuki?
  19. MikiAndoFan#1

    MikiAndoFan#1 Well-Known Member

    I believe she plans on competing next season. :)
  20. skatingfan04

    skatingfan04 Active Member

    Now, I really don't think that it's fair to suggest that Belbin/Agosto then would even be in the same league as D/W and V/M are now. Don't get me wrong, B/A were great skaters, but the level that D/W and V/M are skating at now is truly exceptional. I'm not saying its impossible for S/S to move ahead of D/W in the next four years, but it would take a dramatic improvement on their part, one that I don't think all that many teams are capable of making. V/M and D/W have set quite a standard IMO. I hope that both teams stay until Sochi and continue to push each other. They could truly bring the sport to a new level.
  21. Loves_Shizuka

    Loves_Shizuka The Stolbova/Klimov and James/Cipres Uber

    ^que bom! obrigado
  22. MikiAndoFan#1

    MikiAndoFan#1 Well-Known Member

    Não tens de quê. :D
  23. millipied

    millipied New Member

    Technically S/S are more than capable. However I am eager to see how versatile can they get. Somehow I doubt that we are going to see anything more than the cute programs they do now. I hope but there are too many limitations.
  24. Yagudinah

    Yagudinah New Member

    Well... I might have to disappoint you. About Kevin that is. We heard all year that he would stop after this season. But since he's back with his belgian coach, he was thinking about staying on "for one more year".

    Of course - that was before his Worlds result with which he was a tad disappointed. So: who knows?
  25. briancoogaert

    briancoogaert Well-Known Member

    I agree. I can see something ala Michelle Kwan in 1999.
    Yu-Na just saw that it would have been really, really easy for her to win here if more prepared. So, I hope she'll be back next season, for the entire season. :)
  26. kia_4EverOnIce

    kia_4EverOnIce Active Member

    I disagree with who says D/W are going to retire: I think they could go till Sochi.

    As for Mao, she was reworking, then her coach said that the delay affected her negatively, and knowing what a fighter she is I really can't think of her retiring. I hope she goes too until Sochi, and I see her coming back stronger next year.

    Also Yu Na, I think that what affected more her in this worlds was emotions, so I see her coming stronger. I don't know if she'll take another year of pause (she seemed so tired and stressed) and come back an year later, but she'll come back IMO.

    for me, I'll bet only on Pang / Tong (come back à la Shen/Zhao in 2014?)
  27. SmallFairy

    SmallFairy #teamtrainwreck #vladmorosovsfreckles #teamjapan

    Is Jenna really skating till Sochi?? what a brave girl...she must truly love it! She's losing her triples, but she keeps fighting!
  28. paulee

    paulee Member

    What about Brian Joubert? Tomas Verner? They have strong contenders within their own countries, will they retire now? Has Alban Preaubert retired after not making the French team again this year?

    For ladies, Perhaps Carolina Kostner wants to end her career with a medal? And Vanessa Marchei? Did she retire? Is that why she was not Italy's #2 this year? I thought she competed earlier this season.

    In pairs, I see Kavaguti retiring before the Olympics. I actually see Smirnov joining Bazarova. Smirnov (27) is 2 years older than Larionov (25), but I see that switch happening. Bazarova/ Smirnov would be a great team, I think.

    I would have said Pechalat/ Bourzat would be the next ice dance team to retire, but they will probably stay and try for a medal next year. I hope so anyway.
  29. briancoogaert

    briancoogaert Well-Known Member

    With World championships in France next season, Joubert and Pechalat&Bourzat said they will stay for at least another season.
    Alban Preaubert did not retire. I guess he wanted Joubert and Amodio to skate well enough to have 3 spots at Worlds next season...too bad !
  30. blue_idealist

    blue_idealist Well-Known Member

    Ladies: Rachael Flatt to go to Stanford, but I'm not sure who else. I think Alissa and Carolina will continue on, as will Asada and Kim but I never questioned Asada and Kim continuing really. Cynthia Phaneuf might retire - I didn't think so before, but then someone on Golden Skate message board said that they thought she said that herself on CBC. I didn't hear so I'm not sure. I can't think of any other ladies who would retire right now.

    Men: Maybe Van der Perren, probably Bradley again, and maybe Contesti but my hunch is Contesti will continue. Schultheiss might retire because he was thinking of it already this season and he skated poorly at this Worlds.

    Pairs: I think Kavaguti/Smirnov will hang around for one more year and I heard Pang/Tong decided to stay on after all. I think Evora/Ladwig might retire, but most of the top pairs are pretty new right now.

    Dance: I HOPE Pechalat/Bourzat don't retire and I guess they won't; they are changing coaches instead. A lot of the dance teams are pretty young so I can't think of anyone else who will leave. I think people saying Davis/White are going to leave are wrong. They probably are more likely to stay now that they have beaten Virtue and Moir for a world title.