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Plushenko Wins Ninth Russian National Title

Discussion in 'Great Skate Debate' started by Iceman, Dec 26, 2011.

  1. Cherub721

    Cherub721 YEAH!

    Oh, can't wait for the comments that will come out of that one... :scream: Remember people, all Nationals are inflated.

    Really great accomplishment considering many of the titles were won during the era of Yagudin, Urmanov, and Abt. :respec: Who else has won as many National titles in a relatively deep field? Kwan has 9 also.
  2. overedge

    overedge Janny uber

    Apparently those biased Canadian judges are very influential everywhere :lol:
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  3. nubka

    nubka Well-Known Member

  4. JanetB

    JanetB Well-Known Member

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  5. Rex

    Rex Well-Known Member

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  6. DickButtonFan

    DickButtonFan New Member

    It's amazing what he has done, it just shows you can still pull off quads and 3A's well into your late 20s and after countless surgeries. Plushy is awesome, it's so nice to have a skater who loves this sport so much.

    Take that to the haters :D
  7. ChelleC

    ChelleC Well-Known Member

    The Russian Federation always preferred Plushenko to Yagudin.
  8. Moka-Ananas

    Moka-Ananas Man's Ruin

    because he can :cool:
  9. VALuvsMKwan

    VALuvsMKwan Wandering Goy

    Like a dog that can lick its own privates? :rolleyes:
  10. Lavergne100

    Lavergne100 New Member

    The absolute confidence that he exudes while skating is incredible. You can just feel that he KNOWS he can pull off incredible skating. I love Evan, so please don't take offense, but the fact that EP literally did NOT skate competitively for four years and still did so well at the last olympics, spoke volumes to me. Wow! I'll be glued to the tv if he's in the competitive mix again. I've missed him.
  11. Lavergne100

    Lavergne100 New Member

    EP is one of my favorite male skaters. I love the artistry of Weir, but also love the absolute total confidence of EP's skating. Quad, triple, double combos are extremely underrated. He's an unreal athlete and such a charismatic skater on the ice...PS: I liked Dick Button as a commentator. Why isn't he on tv anymore? (It seems like I only hear him at the Olympics or something...??)
  12. Doubletoe

    Doubletoe Well-Known Member

    Three thoughts: (1) Gee, I really needed to hear this music one more time! :rolleyes: (2) Ever try holding a landing edge? (3) If the tech specialist gave Plushy credit for the two jumps he did after landing the 3Lz, doing a LFO 3-turn, then putting the right foot down, I am going to personally go to Russia and strangle him/her.
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  13. mmmmss345

    mmmmss345 New Member

    Come on, like him or not, but to skate like that after so long without competing is awesome.
  14. overedge

    overedge Janny uber

    It hasn't been *that* long.....
  15. PDilemma

    PDilemma Well-Known Member

    He's never been my cup of tea. But...

    --I think he's part cat. Which seems an unfair advantage.
    --If he skates clean with quads and Chan does his zamboni butt thing at Worlds and beats him...the proverbial stuff will hit the fan from the Russian fed.:watch:
  16. Garden Kitty

    Garden Kitty Tranquillo

    I don't particularly care for his skating style or most of his programs, but this is a sport that takes a real toll on people physically and emotionally and I definitely admire his ability to compete at a top level for so long. He's definitely a star, and skating is always better when it has strong stars and personalities.
  17. Holley Calmes

    Holley Calmes Well-Known Member

    I agree. Good for him. He is good for the sport, and therefor I am glad for his success today. I'm also glad Voronov is back. I don't know why I like the kid-even with that hideous costume. But he has really pretty eyes and a lovely body. Glad he had a good day.

    Tried to watch both Plush and Voronov's FP, and managed most of V's but had to give up after Plushy's great jumps. Got bored...sorry.
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  18. reflect

    reflect New Member

    Russian Figure Skating Championships
    1997 Moscow Ilia Kulik Alexei Urmanov Alexei Yagudin
    1998 Moscow Ilia Kulik Alexei Yagudin Evgeni Plushenko
    1999 Moscow Evgeni Plushenko Alexei Yagudin Alexei Urmanov
    2000 Moscow Evgeni Plushenko Alexei Yagudin Alexander Abt
    2001 Moscow Evgeni Plushenko Alexei Yagudin Alexander Abt

    1999 Russian Nationals Evgeni Plushenko LP
    falled on the first jump

    1999 Russian Nationals Alexei Yagudin LP
    falled on the second jump and 1-2 other small mistakes.

    can't find SP for both

    Evgeni Plushenko 2000 Russian Nationals - LP Gypsy Dance

    I cann't find Plushenko's SP and Yagudin's program on youtube but I have the videos. Yagudin had a step out in SP and doubled one quad or triple in LP. Plushy is fine with SP and doubled in LP but had a 432 in beginning.

    PLUSHENKO 2001-RN_SP_Boleromarks(NTV)

    No LP available on youtube but video shows he did 4T and 4T-3T-2Lo

    Alexei Yagudin 2001 Russian Nationals Revolution Etude

    Alexei Yagudin 2001 Russian Nationals LP

    JMHO, according to the video, I don't think plushy win RN since 1998 till...maybe 2005? because of Russian Federation's preference.

    BTW, haven't seen this year's RN yet, but according to the score, seems Plu may rob Authur's medal because of Russian Fed's preference:lol: if anyone can tell me did he rob it from authur?
    Last edited: Dec 27, 2011
  19. caseyedwards

    caseyedwards Well-Known Member

    :plush: :kickass:

    Still has quad and 3A ability!
  20. DickButtonFan

    DickButtonFan New Member

    I miss Dick Button commentating too, he used to commentate when abc/espn had figure skating but they no longer have figure skating on those channels for major events.
  21. BittyBug

    BittyBug Dispirited

    You can put away your passport. That jumping pass was assessed as a 3L+SEQ and received almost all -2 GOE from the judges. :rolleyes:

    Protocol (link courtesy of caseyedwards)
  22. nubka

    nubka Well-Known Member

    Nah, groping and licking are two different things. The dog would have to be much more limber... :p
  23. triple_toe

    triple_toe Well-Known Member

    Good for him. Like him or not, trying for *another* comeback, complete with quads and what is still a fab 3 axel, is ballsy.
  24. skaterdelight

    skaterdelight Member

    I loved those golden years of Russian men skating - strong, athletic, expressive and artistic. Not to mention Honda, Stojko, Candeloro who had such striking personalities as well.
  25. SkateFan66

    SkateFan66 Active Member

    IMO, Program Component Score of 93.66 (from a low of 9.0 to a high of 9.75) was a 'little' high. :slinkaway
  26. Spazactaz

    Spazactaz New Member

    His transition score is too high, haha.
    But he's still amaaaazing! Still one of the best 3As! Great performer, great confidence.
  27. shuilee

    shuilee Well-Known Member

    Plushy in 2012 reminds of Kwan in 2005. It's just same old same old and judges may get tired of his transition-less skating.

    I'm hoping the international judges will give him a rude awakening with fair PCS marks (mostly 7's for SS/PE/CH/IN with 6's in Transition), much like what Kwan got in 2005.
  28. senorita

    senorita New Member

    Programs look rough although he might have added a transition (or two) since Vancouver, his marks were not connected to international reality but his levels look decent , he looks happy , I m not thrilled with the music choices but how can someone have a surgery and throw after some months that 3axel in sp is beyond my comprehension.
    And of course he keeps skating while platinum.