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Most Thoughtful Ladies Free Programs of the 00's

Discussion in 'The Trash Can' started by poths, Jan 14, 2012.

  1. pinky166

    pinky166 #teamtrainwreck #teamdiva

    I also love Yuna's Lark Ascending. And Mao's Fantasy Impromptu from the 2007 GPF when she battled out of 6th place in the SP to land a 3a and two 3-3s in her FS, win that segment, and pull up to 2nd overall. Really saw her fight in that performance. Also Joannie's Samson and Delilah at the 2010 Olympics, obviously. Maybe even Lepisto's FS from the 2010 Olympics too.
  2. taf2002

    taf2002 zexy demon

    "we gave you this in 1997 and you didn't do something right with it, so now, you'll have to prove that you deserve it. We'll see next year if you are consistent".

    This doesn't sound like a judge's thinking. They didn't "give" her 97, she earned it. Vanessa did not skate badly after 97. She was inconsistant on the jumps-so was Sasha Cohen, but the rest of her skating was elite class. As we have seen, the judges were always willing to give the marks for a clean or almost clean program. (Remember all those comps where Sasha came in 4th? The judges never wrote her off...inconsistancy probably does affect their expectations, but I never felt like the judges were saying something to either her or Gusmaroli.)

    It's not like the other people she was competing against were setting any records on consistancy. During that era both Irina & Maria usually had at least 1 stumble or fall in their LPs.
  3. berthesghost

    berthesghost Well-Known Member

    Vanessa was always plagued with consistent inconsitentcy.. pretty much never skating clean. And although the ice is slippery for all, I don't agree that Vanessa was on par with Kwan and Irina all skating perfectly. Her only world podium had a more lot to do with their mistakes than her lack there of. The ordinals in Lausanne were crazy, and considering how many had Irina in 1st, I don't think Vanessa's finish above her is solidly unquestionable.
  4. pinky166

    pinky166 #teamtrainwreck #teamdiva

    Also don't laugh because it's Miki Ando. But her 2007 Worlds FS and 2011 4CC FS I found very compelling, especially for someone who is usually so reserved in her skating.
  5. BigB08822

    BigB08822 Well-Known Member

    kwanette and (deleted member) like this.
  6. berthesghost

    berthesghost Well-Known Member

    So true! I still don't understand how she didnt win silver. :mad:
  7. PashaFan

    PashaFan Well-Known Member

    I think Miki has skated to some lovely programes.
    I really like her 2006 Olympic short programe. Pity about the error but it's a stand out programe for me.
  8. Scintillation

    Scintillation New Member

    I have to say thank you for posting Vanessa's 2000 LP--I really love that program. I love the music, I love the choreography, and I don't care if she front loaded her program. That was my favorite LP at worlds that year.
    Oh god look at me bringing the Kween into discussion only 2 pages into this thread (whoops!), but IMO her 2001 worlds LP was the best program she ever did. The music was well-cut, and it was incredibly well-choreographed. That should've been the elegant mature direction to take after that, but instead she dumped Lori Nichol and did Scherherezade, a program I really didn't care for.
    As badass as her 2000 worlds LP performance was, I never liked that LP that much due to the music cuts being so disjointed. I think her 1999 worlds exhibition was the best version of that program.
    Anyways, since there are other skaters that did great programs, here's my favorite LP from the 2002 olympics:
    Fumie Suguri 2002 Olympics LP
  9. judgejudy27

    judgejudy27 Well-Known Member

    Irina's long program was light years ahead of Vanessa's. Under COP Irina would have crushed Vanessa overall, being behind by maybe 5 points or so after the short due to the major fall, and beaten her by about 20 points in the long. Vanessa was just lucky Irina wasnt placed ahead of Tara in the LP as most thought she should, and that most of the programs that day were mediocre so her own so so LP could barely hang onto 4th in that phase.

    I did think Vanessa should have won the SP at those Worlds over Tara however.

    It is definitely not true Vanessa at her best was on par with Irina or Michelle IMO. I cant imagine her skating clean ever coming anywhere near those two skating clean. I did enjoy her skating on a good day though. She always tried something interesting and different, even if she was rough around the edges and inconsistent.
  10. PashaFan

    PashaFan Well-Known Member

    I watched the pairs free at Vancouver 2010 last night & the programe that really stood out for me (even with errors) was Jessica Dube & Bryce Davison's The way we were.
    Such a thoughtful & moving programe.