the thread is stupid because there isn't even a minimal pretense at objectivism even in the question itself. Who wins, one of the sports legends and most highly decorated, or a skater with one sentimental feel good story win on home ice? why not who wins in a fight, superman or jimmy Olsen? Much as I love yuna, not only did she "give away" countless championships she should have won on paper in a way Sonja never would have, but last time I checked, one of these ladies inspired an entire continent to become two of the the sport's 3 biggest powers. The other did a few tv commercials. Who wins, the brave pioneer who overcame blatant prejudice and humiliated her humiliators and almost single handedly created the ladies event, or a one hit wonder with one of the sports most controversial wins steeped in accusations of corruption and drug use? Is pointing out that Madge didn't have a 3/3 really what passes for "objective thinking" these days? Was Hanyu the first to land a 3x followed up by being the first to land a quad thus changing the sport? He's not the youngest to win the olys, we'll see if he'll be only the second to win 2 in post war history, but he's already lost the "undefeated for 5 years" battle.