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ISU homologates the first quadruple Lutz jump

Discussion in 'Great Skate Debate' started by Pierre, Oct 26, 2011.

  1. Pierre

    Pierre New Member

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  2. Mevrouw

    Mevrouw living every minute

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    Well there's a word that I have never seen or heard used in English. Homologates / homologation Perhaps it's from French or Italian and was just 'anglicized' through translation?

    Congratulations to Brandon.
     
  3. Sylvia

    Sylvia Still recovering from Worlds...

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    Hey I learned a new word today, too! :cool:

    Congratulations to Brandon! (now who will be the first skater to land a ratified 4Lz in an ISU-sanctioned competition? ;))

    BTW, Mroz attempted 4Lz in both his SP and FS at Southwestern Regionals this past weekend and received -1.75 GOE for the jump in each program (11.85 points out of the base value of 13.60).
     
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  4. FigureSpins

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    Congrats to Brandon!
     
  5. antmanb

    antmanb Well-Known Member

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    Did anyone else have to look up the word "homologate" :shuffle:
     
  6. Pierre

    Pierre New Member

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    Very exciting day for him. I'm glad the ISU made this decision.
     
  7. Jozet

    Jozet Well-Known Member

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    Yup!

    Why homologate and not ratify? Do I ask an English major or an attorney? ;)

    In either case, congratulations!
     
  8. Fergus

    Fergus Well-Known Member

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    Brandon!!! :cheer2:
     
  9. Rob

    Rob Beach Bum

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    I have never seen that word before either.
     
  10. genevieve

    genevieve drinky typo pbp, closet hugger Staff Member

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  11. Skittl1321

    Skittl1321 Well-Known Member

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    Congratulations to Brandon! Hope he can pull them off in international comps too!

    (I've seen the video before, but the landing is just beautiful!)
     
  12. ciocio

    ciocio Active Member

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    Go, Brandon!!!!:cheer:
     
  13. emason

    emason Well-Known Member

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    Yes indeed.

    Go Brandon!
     
  14. MikiAndoFan#1

    MikiAndoFan#1 Well-Known Member

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    Congratulations to Brandon! :cheer2:
     
  15. julieann

    julieann Well-Known Member

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    Good for him!

    I feel bad for other skaters who would have had their jumps ratified sooner using that system.
     
  16. skatefan

    skatefan home in England

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    Neither have I - weird choice :lol: I wonder why they didn't use ratified.
    Well done Brandon!
     
  17. luenatic

    luenatic Well-Known Member

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    Here is the definition

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/homologate

    = sanction, allow; especially : to approve or confirm officially

    Origin of HOMOLOGATE
    Medieval Latin homologatus, past participle of homologare to agree, from Greek homologein, from homologos
    First Known Use: 1593
     
  18. Vash01

    Vash01 Fan of Yuzuru, Medvedeva, T&M, Shibs, P&C

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    I had never heard this word before, and honestly, I was a little afraid to look it up. I was not sure if the word actually existed in English, but according to Dictionary.com it has a very simple meaning- Confirm, Ratify.:)

    Nice to learn a new word! I may use it in my Toastmasters club for 'word of the day', thanks to ISU.

    Congratulations to Brandon Mroz! This is an awesome achievement. His name will be forever etched in figure skating history. That's exciting.
     
  19. Ziggy

    Ziggy Well-Known Member

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    So does this mean that club comps and local comps that aren't on the ISU calendar are ISU-sanctioned events now?

    Even though they don't have international judging panels?

    As for the subject or ratifying elements, the fact IJS requires all the performances to be recorded for the judges and technical panel means there's a way of verifying them.

    But the above questions stand.
     
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  20. swtblueeyes

    swtblueeyes New Member

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    It is indeed a word I often hear or use in french, but don't know about italian ;)
     
  21. oleada

    oleada Well-Known Member

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    It's used commonly enough in Spanish.
     
  22. Nomad

    Nomad Celebrity cheese-monger

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    I've seen "omologare" used in a sports context, so I would say yes, at least in print. Never heard anyone say it in conversation, though.
     
  23. pingu

    pingu Well-Known Member

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    Yep we have it too :) To homologate = omologare
     
  24. caseyedwards

    caseyedwards Well-Known Member

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    Good for him. It looks like he is also keeping at trying them and rotating them and landing them.
     
  25. Vagabond

    Vagabond Well-Known Member

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    Thank you all for homologating that. :)
     
  26. Sylvia

    Sylvia Still recovering from Worlds...

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    The ISU wording states that Mroz's 4Lz was ratified at the "Colorado Springs Invitational, a U.S. Figure Skating sanctioned event." I don't take that to mean that any country's club or local competitions are ISU-sanctioned.
     
  27. barbk

    barbk Well-Known Member

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    Always good to learn a new word. And congrats to Brandon -- it seems like a long, long time ago that Michael Weiss was attempting it and getting close.
     
  28. Ziggy

    Ziggy Well-Known Member

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    Ahhhh it's my bad. I read "an ISU sanctioned event" and it says "USFS sanctioned event".

    Sorry, makes sense now.
     
  29. Garden Kitty

    Garden Kitty Tranquillo

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    Congrats to Brandon!
     
  30. Louise

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    Thank thank thank you for posting the Webster's defiinition. I was about to go there and look it up. I am happy for Mroz, but how many others made history in a non-ISU event that will never get credit? Mroz cannot be the FIRST man EVER to land this in a club comp or other non-homologated competition.

    I mean, the record books are BS. Kurt Browning is first quad, with a badly three turn out of it? Holy shite I can't even remember who did it first at Euros in 1985? I know he has a son named Ice or Blade or Knife or Death. God I need to look it up. He was Czech. I refuse to look it up. It's like Piotr, Alexandr. Bronze in Sarajevo. Sabovic? Alexandr Sabovkic? He landed the first quad AFAIC.
     
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