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Freeskating Skills: Patrick Chan Vs David Jenkins, who wins?

Discussion in 'The Trash Can' started by bardtoob, Mar 28, 2012.

Freeskating Skills: Patrick Chan Vs David Jenkins, who wins?

  1. [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zo66jAa5PXE"]Patrick Chan[/URL]

    13 vote(s)
  2. [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AD-iqzaKvxo"]David Jenkins[/URL]

    12 vote(s)
  3. I'm just honored to have watched.

    2 vote(s)
  1. bardtoob

    bardtoob Former Choreographer for Anna Maria Tragikova

    Last edited: Mar 28, 2012
  2. nubka

    nubka Well-Known Member

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  3. query5

    query5 New Member

    i was biased and voted for david. however i have a problem with this question for 2 reason
    one is
    david skated under old 6's and figures well figures counted more than freeskate and
    david didn't have to do quad etc
    like patrick does, however cop doesn't encourage flow, and edges -you can take of and land on flat of blade and counts. patrick doesn't hold his edges when he lands his jumps, he wobble, bobble and a few landings.
    so i picked david because he didn't ave the time to clean up jumps they focused on figures.

    2)patrick can seem only to skate well (without) mistakes at his nationals -why no pressure, he knows they will hold him up regardless.
    they was no flow on jumps so many

    3) too different systems to different styles,
    each would do what had to under both systems --cant compare
    also don't take off enough for patrick foibles. they ignore them
  4. briancoogaert

    briancoogaert Well-Known Member

    Very difficult to compare.
    But I'd say Patrick CHan, since his edges are amazing, so is his speed. Plus, he has the modern elegance that David didn't have.
  5. aliceanne

    aliceanne Well-Known Member

    Patrick has more technical difficulty because he is several generations later, but I see a lot of similarity in their styles. They are both strong and skate with a lot of speed but look a little out of control at times.

    Patrick has better spin positions and lines. Jenkins camel position and split jumps are ugly, very poor stretch. I think in 1960 it was considered effeminate for the men to use their arms in choreography so he looks stiff in the upper body. The video quality may also be making his skating look jerkier than it actually was. Jenkins jumps are very big and his air postion is relatively loose, I think if he tightened it up he could add revolutions.

    It's hard to say how Patrick would have developed in 1960 or Jenkins would have in 2012. They are each a product of their times.

    ETA: I just realized that Jenkins is skating outdoors and the spectators are wearing furs - extreme cold will certainly inhibit your stretch and make you tight, especially if he has been waiting around a long time to skate.
    Last edited: Mar 28, 2012
  6. query5

    query5 New Member

    patrick is what a hothouse skater. different type of skating inside and outside.