Discussion in 'Great Skate Debate' started by maija, Apr 1, 2010.
Posting just in case Hell freezes over.
^^^ Does it matter what we've posted in this thread? 'Cause I didn't post specifically about Juulia's possible placement at Worlds...
@kiirakorpi_fi tweeted yesterday:
Well, I love champagne... Shall I tell Juulia about your promise?
Thank you for supporting the Finnish ladies, Loves Shizuka!
It doesn't matter WHAT you've posted; just so long as you have. It'd be a great way for us fans of Finnish skating to celebrate a (very surprise) top ten finish!
Is Turkkila working on the harder triples? I know she's not competing with them, but I would imagine she's at least trying them in practice?
The two Finnish teams finished 1-2 at the World Junior Synchro Championships:
Competition is over. The Finnish teams take gold & silver. The Canadian team from Quebec takes bronze. The American teams place 4th and 5th. Team Braemer, the USA#1, had 5 girls fall.
TEAM Total score LP TES PCS Ded
1. Fintastic 171.67 115.77 50.51 65.26 0 (FIN)
2. Musketeers 168.76 114.72 52.20 62.52 0 (FIN)
3. Les Suprêmes 146.30 97.66 38.65 59.01 0 (CAN)
4. Team Braemar 145.08 95.14 43.07 57.07 5 (USA) - 5 girls fell
5. Skyliners 139.97 92.76 36.67 57.09 1 (USA #2 Skating Club of NY
6. Nexxice 139.79 96.45 40.12 56.33 0 (CAN)
7. Convivium 135.45 89.96 37.58 55.38 3 (SWE)
8. Spartak Junost 134.03 92.30 35.95 56.35 0 (RUS)
9. Team Berlin Juniors 117.07 78.17 30.48 47.69 0 (GER)
10. Team Spirit 115.45 75.69 31.60 47.09 3 (SWE)
11. Idel 100.83 69.46 26.56 42.90 0 (RUS)
12. Cool Dreams Junior 99.84 65.34 25.64 39.70 0 (SUI)
13. Hot Shivers 92.56 61.50 25.68 36.82 1 (ITA)
14. Black Diam's 87.29 59.74 23.58 36.16 0 (FRA)
15. Wight Jewels 71.92 49.07 21.93 27.14 0 (GBR)
16. Frost Work 66.76 44.40 17.35 28.05 1 (HUN)
17. Majestic Ice 60.64 41.03 20.69 21.34 1 (AUS)
18. Duke Town Twinkle Stars 42.94 25.09 14.06 17.03 6 (NED)
Thank you for the news! It's great to see the continuing depth among Swedish teams.
I'm surprised about Russia: they were strong a few years ago at Senior Worlds in Colorado Springs a few years ago, and they gained a coveted second spot. Too bad there's no Synchro in the Olympics, or they'd be on a roll towards Sochi.
Should I send my shipping address now for my Champagne? lol Please send packed in dry ice so I can enjoy immediately on arrival.
She was trying 3lo in her FS earlier this season, might try it again at Worlds. So I assume she at least has a 3lo that's somewhat consistent in practice. Haterz. Julia is pretty and blonde and Finnish, and she's now the top Finnish lady going to Worlds, I predict if she lands her 3-3 in the SP, the judges will become mesmerized by her great Finnish basics and good looks, decide she is Kiira Korpi 2.0, and her PCS will suddenly shoot into the 7s, and then she will make the top 10 overall . If Lepisto can win World bronze with a bunch of doubles I don't see why Juulia can't finish in the top 10.
GOOOOO JUULIA! I believe in you.
She has 3lo. She tried it in a few competitions this season. And she has 3-3 in her SP. I don't want others to bomb, but honestly, so many of the skaters in the ladies event, especially the European ones, are so inconsistent anyways that it's not entirely out of the question that Juulia could place in the top 10. If she skated 2 clean programs and hit the 3-3 in the SP, she'd probably score like 150-155, which likely would be enough. Idk. She probably won't make top 10, she might not even make the FS, but it is within the realms of possibility. I never thought Hecken would be top 12 at Worlds and then she was twice.
If she has the same great Finnish basics as Poykio, Kettunen, and Lepisto -- I'm a holdout on Korpi, because I think below the thigh she's too rough -- then the judges should be mesmerized and those blade skills and soft knees should be rewarded.
Juulia Turkkila landed all her jumps in her SP (3T+3T, 3S, 2A; scored 52.25) at Finnish Nationals in December 2011: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6CdEK2oCnA
I was there, it was a great skate. And I would love to her finishing in the top ten, as I have said earlier. The Worlds would be a good place to do the 3lo. But let´s see!
Yes and she scored 93+ for her FS there where she popped the first sal and doubled the second. Soo if she skates clean at Worlds she really could score like 150-155, which might be enough for top 10. It's a tall order but she really is a lovely skater when "on". Regardless of placement, I just hope she skates well in Nice. She's beautiful to watch and has grown into such a stunning young woman, I hope she can become a Finnish star like her older teammates in the future, she has the talent.
OT but I'm also excited to see Simanckova at Worlds. She seemed to be gaining momentum at Euros but then wasn't as good at JWC. I'm excited she has all the triples through flip now, she is another OES with a lot of potential, and she's only 16!
Hecken has all the triples. AFAIK she never did a 3flip in competition yet but she did all the others and all triples are consistent in practice (which is still a way from being consistent in competitions).
Anyway - sad for Finland. After Laura Kiira was really needed. I prefer Laura's skating by fifty miles but I am still sad for Kiira. It always is if a skater cannot compete because of injury and Kiira had her fair share of health problems already.
I meant Finnish synchro teams.
Last year she did 3t, 3s, and one 3f in her Worlds FS where she placed 11th, she tried also for 3lo but it was <<. The year before she did 3t, 3s, and did not try 3f or 3lo, just one 3lz which she fell on and was marked <. She has never consistently had anything more than 3t and 3s but managed to place twice 12th in the Worlds, and her spins, etc are not as strong as Juulia.
Hecken's spins might not be a strong point, but she definitely has tons more power and speed to her skating. Turkkila is slow for a skater at her level -and visibly so, so her PCS aren't going to be all the great, even if her posture and ballet training make her a pleasant skater to watch.
Yeah, maybe. But Juulia might get extra PCS points for looking like Barbie on ice . I hope she kicks butt at Worlds to prove all the naysayers wrong.
i'm posting too coz i like champagne ...
and oh ... alisa mikonsaari gets her chance to skate on the world stage. wonder what her chances are of making it to the short programme/final. watched her finlandia trophy performance. rather determined lady she seems to be ... (triple toe-triple toe, triple lutz in short programme ... underrotated but not bad attempts). A little scratchy but her presentation was again not bad (coached by Urmanov!) ... really too bad that Finland will be down to one spot nxt year ... (so whoever goes to Worlds will have big pressure of making it in the top ten to earn 2 spots for Sochi ...)
We're just pointing out anything short of a best-ever performance from her end and meltdowns from other contenders wouldn't be good enough for Juulia to finish in the top 10. Odds of that happening are firmly under 5%. Obviously, probability can't be negative so there is *some* chance Turkkila will be in the top 10. If saying that's not a very good chance makes us naysayers...
THe current field is on the weak side, so I guess anything is possible.
Yeah but if it's either Kiira or Laura, then the chances of making the top10 could be quite good (of course it'll depend on how they look next season).
I can't believe that Juulia has just managed to be the subject of two pages of posts in this thread (with a bit of Hecken thrown into the mix). I guess anything goes since we're lacking other news.
I'm confused about the need for Turkila to make it to the top 10: did I miss where Finland is only sending one lady, or is it because no expects the second Finnish lady to qualify for the FS?
I was wondering the same thing but then thought "whatever".
Top12 or top13 will be almost as tough though.
The odds are a lot better, though, with four-five skaters likely vying for 10th-12th vs. four-five skaters vying for 10th.
That assumes that the second Finnish lady makes it out of the prelims -- Turkila's 20th place in Moscow means one direct and one lady in the prelims -- and then top 24 in the SP.
Wait, according to the ISU entry list both Finnish entries are direct?
Sorry, I realize this should be in the Worlds forum.
You're right: the top 18 from Moscow earned one direct entry each for their country, but because Canada and Sweden lost their second spots, there are only 16 direct entries for Nice from the top 18 from Moscow, and the 17th and 18th direct entries were assigned to Belgium (for Vannut's 19th place) and Finland (for Turkila's 20th place).
That means that Mikonsaari skips the prelim round.
This is excellent news because it also means Isabelle Pieman has a decent chance of qualifying with a clean Short . Erm, Finnish news thread, so best of luck to Alisa for the short, as well!
Both the Finnish entries are direct.
Mikonsaari has shiwn a great promise some years ago, and she impressed with her 3t-3t ans 3lz. And Kelvster, you are right, she has a lot of determination and lots of speed. It is very interesting to see how she uses this possibility to break to the senior World level.