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Dubé & Davison training with Doug Ladret

Discussion in 'Great Skate Debate' started by shutterbug, Jul 18, 2010.

  1. shutterbug

    shutterbug Well-Known Member

    According to Pj: Taking Liberty

    Hallelujah!!!!! Very pleased to hear this. :)
  2. i love to skate

    i love to skate New Member

    Thanks for the link! Wow, that is really exciting news!! Can't wait to see the changes that have been made!

    Also, congrats to Annie Barabe on her soon to be new arrival! :cheer2:
  3. made_in_canada

    made_in_canada INTJ

    I think this will be very positive for them. I look forward to seeing a refreshed Dube & Davison!
  4. Carolla5501

    Carolla5501 Well-Known Member

    I just hope they enjoy skating. Really they seemed so "unhappy" to me last year. (Maybe it was just the long program theme, but...)
  5. scs

    scs Member

    I'm looking forward to seeing what Dube and Davison can accomplish while working with Doug. Maybe I'm hopeful because Tuffy and Doug are one of my all time favourite Canadian teams.
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  6. dramagrrl

    dramagrrl Well-Known Member

    Excellent. I'm glad to hear they're trying something new, as they badly needed some fresh input (and I say that as a huge D&D supporter).
  7. smileyskate

    smileyskate Active Member

    Thank you for the link. I like PJ's information.
    I am not being nasty but I'm not sure that it is absolutely necessary at this point in the season/cycle, in today's economy, and with available technology for Slipchuck to have to go "monitor" the high level competitors like Chan and Dube/Davison. Lots of $$$ that may be better used elsewhere or saved for when it's really needed. Just an opinion.
  8. made_in_canada

    made_in_canada INTJ

    I understand what you're saying smileyskate, but on the other hand it's still early enough that problems can be addressed without having it negatively impact the season this early.
  9. Rock2

    Rock2 Well-Known Member

    I disagree. You have two entries that are former world medalists. You should always preserve a good chunk of money developing, monitoring and helping those who have the best chance right now to win medals...just as much as you should invest in the pipeline.

    If you're Slipchuk and you wait until the season starts to take a hard look at your top horses and you see things that could have improved their chances at a medal and you missed your opportunity to influence it...then...shame on you.

    I'm good with it.

    And Bravo to ANY skater or team that has what I call a distaste for the status quo. Onwards and upwards...always.
    (Bryce, just pleeeeeeez don't drop the woman. This team just can't handle any more disasters)
  10. loopey

    loopey Well-Known Member

    So is Ladret their consultant, part-time coach, or just someone working with them while their real coach is on maternity leave?
  11. pat c

    pat c Well-Known Member

    Working with someone new is always good. Fresh eyes. But.......what's their music and who's their choreo. That is key too.
  12. Dave of the North

    Dave of the North Well-Known Member

    From the article:

    Some where between consultant and part-time coach.

    Barabe's pregnancy also partly explains why Shawn Sawyer is semi-coachless this year.
  13. blue_idealist

    blue_idealist Well-Known Member

    I wonder if Phaneuf is adding anyone new to her coaching team..
  14. yfbg722

    yfbg722 Active Member

    I do agree that monitoring is a good thing but it doesn't necessarily have to be done in person with all the technology available now. It would be far less expensive to video the progress and have it monitored via the internet. Isn't this partially how Chan is being coached by Nichol now? I seem to recall someone saying she was monitoring his progress daily via video while he trained in Colorado.
  15. Ziggy

    Ziggy Well-Known Member

    Couldn't they just retire instead? :p
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  16. WildRose

    WildRose Well-Known Member

    Michael Slipchuk is Skate Canada's High Performance Director - it's his job to monitor Canada's top skaters. That includes traveling to where they are training to make sure they have support systems in place to achieve the best results.
  17. Debrah

    Debrah Well-Known Member

    I hope they can make a huge move back up the ranks this season, esp with all the pair retirements, if D & D don't get it right this year and get own momentum going in the right direction (up) then they may never get back up on the world podium again.

    I firmly believe the year after an olympics is a turning point year. This is the time in the cycle that rewards those previous contenders who may have just fallen short the previous olympic year; esp if they step it up a notch, or they can capitolize on previous favs that stay gone, clearing the path for skaters just ranked behind medal retirees. This is the season for those who stuck around for one more kick at the can before calling it a career showing they are now worthy of a golden handshake as final farewell. The newbie skaters who show improvement, and previous cycle name skater's still contending who can also show PTB they are in it to win it in Sochi will definitely set the tone for who judges will support for medals over next 4 years and esp at next Oly games in Sochi... Sure there are always a few who think they can take a year or two off and then make a successful comeback but history has not always been on board with the strategy and with this cycle so rich with developing talent it may show skaters that if you snooze you lose your place at the table.

    So I say come out strong early in the cycle and get people on board your train; whatever it takes, new moves, new coaching, choreo, whatever gives you the push, cuz once the locomtive stops it is very difficult to get it rolling again...

    So yipee D & D this is the time to make all the right moves, to believe all over again and Ladret may just give them the needed spark.
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  18. Bailey_

    Bailey_ Guest

    I really wish that they would go to a good "jump" coach to gain consistency with the triple salchow and/or possibly another triple jump. Such a good team - such a shame that they have been so limited by the lack of consistency with those triple jumps.
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  19. The Accordion

    The Accordion Well-Known Member

    A reliable source says Doug is not going to be their full time coach - he will just be giving them extra coaching.
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  20. AragornElessar

    AragornElessar Well-Known Member

    Regardless of whether he's a consultant, part time coach or whatever, Doug is a fresh pair of eyes and that's nothing but good for Jess and Bryce. That's needed to happen for awhile now and I like who's been brought in.

    As for their programs...They're keeping last year's LP aren't they? Thought I'd read that somewhere. Could have even been here.

    ITA w/whomever said it up thread....They looked so miserable last season. I really hope I see that happy in love w/skating D/D back out there this year.
  21. pair mom

    pair mom New Member

    And Doug is a "real" pair coach with much personal experience at the World level as a former competitor. And interesting that quite a few of Kerry Leitch's former fellas (Doug Laudret, Lyndon Johnson, Kevin Wheeler) are in such demand as pair specialists to today's crop of teams, both Canadian and American! Well done!
  22. The Accordion

    The Accordion Well-Known Member

    I agree 100%
  23. Pratfall

    Pratfall Active Member

    :eek:Good grief ! I hope they're not keeping last year's LP. It was a crime of the first order to have that very pretty girl looking so drab ! And Bryce's "street clothes" look was even worse, with the gaping pockets, the sweater that rode up, and all generally so rumpled, you'd think he'd been sleeping in them all season.....And the whole concept..hit tear-jerker melodrama movie, true love come to a sad end , grey costumes..you can't convince me they weren't trying to find their own "Love Story" - a la S/P.
    No, no, no! They need some life and colour..to keep "The Way We Were ", at this stage , would only serve to remind everyone (judges included ) of the way they were last season.

    I'm loving seeing the success of the graduates of the Kerry Leitch school. Doug may not only be able to help with lifts and general technique, but he's also something of a wizard with music...perhaps he'll help in that dept. as well.

    Earlier , I had a vain hope ( and I knew it was probably vain) that they would go to Richard Gauthier for his superb all-round polishing..but I like this change more and more..I hope they'll take full advantage of Doug's expertise.
  24. allyx82

    allyx82 New Member

    no. I love watching them .. there is something about them..
  25. Ziggy

    Ziggy Well-Known Member

    An irritating air of nonchalance? :EVILLE:
  26. Katta

    Katta Active Member

    Not at all! THey have an air of elegance, ease and softness about them. They seem to float over the ice.

    I think they have it in them to improve and make it onto the podium again. They showed a will last year with the tripple twist, which improved a lot during the season.

  27. bookworm

    bookworm New Member

    Sounds like a step in the right direction.
  28. Ziggy

    Ziggy Well-Known Member

    Well you can be elegant and exciting. Jessica seriously needs to develop more than one facial expression and stop looking (and skating) as if she's about to faint.
  29. mag

    mag Well-Known Member

    ITA with this!!! I can't imagine why they would keep that program and those costumes are / were a complete disaster (IMHO, of course :) ) Jessica is absolutely gorgeous with an amazing body ... they need to show off a bit. Do something with spunk and zip .... Hmmm I said that in the CZ thread it must be a theme! I would love to see Jessica with a cute bob hair cut and a bright coloured costume, skating to some really flirty music and putting on a show. This pair has great basics now they need to perform to the top row and give the audiences a real show. Make the judges sit up and take notice. Their programs this year should scream "Look at us, we've changed and we're better than ever!!"
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  30. Cloudy_Gumdrops

    Cloudy_Gumdrops New Member

    Gods, I hope they change their mind on keeping last season's LP. It's the blandest, dullest program EVER! If they want to make a fresh start they need to go all the way.