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Downton Abbey--Upstairs/Downstairs, Stiff Upper Lips, and Tea!

Discussion in 'Off The Beaten Track' started by Matryeshka, Jan 23, 2011.

  1. modern_muslimah

    modern_muslimah Thinking of witty user title and coming up blank

    Yeah, some things make a bit more sense seeing the unedited UK version. I saw that version before PBS finished airing the edited version on TV and I'm glad I did.
  2. manleywoman

    manleywoman podcast mistress

    Yes, though when Matthew said it was invented by Thomas Jefferson, she replied "good heavens . . . must every morning begin with an argument with an american?" :rofl:

    Sorry I'm a few weeks late but being sick all weekend allowed me to catch up with all this online. I'm LOVING it!

    Poor Cora and the bathtub. O'Brien is pure evil.
  3. manleywoman

    manleywoman podcast mistress

    Ahhh, interesting. I saw the PBS edited one then.
  4. BigB08822

    BigB08822 Well-Known Member

    Netflix just put this on their streaming! Watching from the beginning, now. :) No idea if I will like it but if it comes recommended by FSU it can't be bad. I also heard the inlaws mention it the other night.
  5. Lorac

    Lorac Well-Known Member

    Why on earth does PBS cut these little things out that would help the flow of the show more? It makes no sense at all yet they do it with so many of the shows coming over from the UK - Foyles War had scenes cut as did Inspoector Lewis and these are just two I know of (as I saw the original versus the edited one). I just don't understand the logic :confused:
  6. Bostonfan

    Bostonfan Well-Known Member

    It was so funny last night. I was babysitting my 8 y/o niece & 10 y/o nephew. They made me watch the American Idol recordings from that week that they had DVRed. Afterwards they were giving me grief about having to go to bed, so I took control of the remote and turned it to PBS where Episode 4 was playing. I figured the sheer sight of a boring grown-up show would send them screaming from the room & upstairs to bed.

    At first they were stalling and watching the show with me to avoid going to bed. But then to my utter surprise they were actually engaged in the show. I could tell it was more than just trying to avoid going to bed. It helped when Professor McGonagall came on. But beyond the Harry Potter siting, they were genuinely interested and asking a million questions (such as why Mary couldn't inherit). I had to do some G-rated explanation about Mary's encounter with the Turkish dude - and skated right to the fact that Mary, Anna and the mother carried his dead body back to his room (which elicited comments of "Cool!").

    Cue my brother and SIL coming home and standing there in a state of bewilderment when they saw their two kids facinated by Downtown Abbey. It was surreal :)
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  7. BigB08822

    BigB08822 Well-Known Member

    I really really loved this series! I can't wait for another season. I hope someone on here will begin a new thread as I won't hear about it or know anything of it until it finally appears on my Netflix, assuming I still subscribe then.

    My favorite is Sybil, out of the sisters. I think she is just beautiful and I love how she is ahead of her time. I absolutely hate O'Brien. I think she is the worst of the worst and I blame much of Thomas' behavior on her influence. Why is she so cruel? I don't want her to be made into a good person just because of her feeling remorse for the bathroom incident. I don't think she should be allowed to become good because of something so horrible that she did.

    I wonder if we will see more of Thomas and the woman who got the job? I can't remember her name but I really liked her. I would love for Matthew and Sybil to get together. They are better suited and would make some very pretty babies. His eyes are just :swoon: I do like the chauffeur though and would feel bad for him. If Sybil ends up with anyone else I hope it is the chauffeur and they go on to have a great life together.
  8. jlai

    jlai Title-less

    Downton Abbey is available for instant streaming on Netflix now.
  9. floskate

    floskate Vacant

    I don't know whether anyone is interested, but the BBC had Comic Relief last night - sort of a telethon raising money for charity and they did a spoof of Downton Abbey starring a number of famous actors and comedians including Simon Callow, Joanna Lumley, Jennifer Saunders, Victoria Wood, Harry Enfield and Kim Cattrall as the American Countess.

    Upstairs Downstairs Abbey Part 1

    Upstairs Downstairs Abbey Part 2
  10. millipied

    millipied New Member

    Saunders' Maggie Smith was spot on:lol:
  11. star_gazer11

    star_gazer11 practising choreo

  12. pollyanna

    pollyanna In denial

    Bumping this, because Upstairs Downstairs is scheduled to begin this Sunday April 10 (in my area, at least).

  13. millipied

    millipied New Member

  14. cygnus

    cygnus Well-Known Member

    Well, I enjoyed that, even though it takes some time getting used to the new characters. I wish there were more than 3 episodes- 1936 is such an interesting year, and there's a lot of history to cover.

    I love the mother-in-law (and her secretary). And I was totally not expecting the surprise guest of Mrs Simpson.
  15. pollyanna

    pollyanna In denial

    I liked it too, and look forward to more episodes. It was a bit jarring to see coach Sasha Beloff (sp?) as the chauffeur, but eye candy is always welcome. Eileen Atkins is always brilliant and what a treat to see Jean Marsh again.

    And yes I am easy - I laughed when poor young Johnny spilled the tray on Mrs. Simpson's escort von Ribbentrop. Brilliant scheme to get rid of him.

    I believe another 6 episodes have been ordered for next year?
    Last edited: Apr 11, 2011
  16. Icetalavista

    Icetalavista Active Member

    Also good to see Art Malik again. He looks good in a beard & turban. Way, way, way back I saw him for the first time in "Jewel in the Crown" and he was :swoon:

    The preview of the upcoming episode showing the problem younger sister trotting off to play with the Nazis is very Mitford (am I getting that right)-sisters-like.

    I wonder if the Welsh footman is gone for good, or might come back in a revenge plot.
  17. Wyliefan

    Wyliefan Well-Known Member

    I think so too, although I've shocked one or two of my period-drama-loving friends by saying so. They're both soapy -- Ivy's storyline in particular has been just plain nuts so far -- but Downton took its soapiness far too seriously and tried to treat it like high drama. Upstairs is just having a good time, and I like that. It's refreshing.

    And though I'll always love Claire Foy best as Little Dorrit, she's doing a terrific job as the spoiled-brat little sister.

    I agree about Mrs. Simpson's guest -- that was a neat (and significant) little twist. And I love the way they took care of it.

    I do miss Maggie Smith, though. Eileen Atkins is doing great, but NOBODY can compare to Maggie.
  18. skatesindreams

    skatesindreams Well-Known Member

    Here's the show's webpage:

    I liked it very much!
    It's a pleasure to see Eileen Atkins and Jean Marsh, such wonderful actors - without whom there would have been no UD to begin with.
    Those of us who became fascinated with "all things British" because of the series are in their debt.

    A pity that there are only 3 episodes!
  19. Artemis@BC

    Artemis@BC Well-Known Member

    It took a while to get going, but once it did I enjoyed it very much.

    It was bugging me where I'd seen "Ivy" (Ellie Kendrick) before, then about half-way through it hit me: she was Anne Frank in that production from about a year ago.

    The only casting I objected to was Keeley Hawes -- who always looks like she's trying too hard when she does upper class and/or period pieces. She wasn't terrible, but she wasn't a great fit either.

    And then there's the small matter of the fact that Rose left Eaton Place a mere 6 years previous ... but seems to have aged at least 30 years. Must have gone through a lot in that time! ;)

    But no matter, I'm still enjoying it.
  20. emason

    emason Well-Known Member

    Downton Abbey = mutton dressed as lamb.
  21. floskate

    floskate Vacant

    Domestic service was awfully tough going back then ya know ;). Most fans over here didn't take too kindly to Hawes on the first episode and given that they only had 3 eps to define the characters, hers is the one that comes across as a bit one dimensional but she does get more interesting. A LOT happens in the next two episodes, almost too much but that's the way they had to do it i guess. That said, Hawes was interviewed on UKTV last week and said pretty much the same and that the new series would be a little more drawn out with more time for character development.

    I particularly loved Anne Reid, a very well respected character actress over here, who plays the cook. She got it absolutely bang on rather than try and emulate Angela Baddeley's wonderful Mrs Bridges. But what's so great is that Eileen Atkins finally got the chance to actually be in the programme she co-created. At the time of the original she was appearing in the West End and had back to back contracts for plays I believe, and of course they had no idea what a success it would become. :)

    There has been lots of debate from pundits here over whether there is room for Downton and UpDown but I think the incredible success of both series shows that we Brits have not lost our curiosity for, nor our hang ups with the class system!! :lol:
  22. BigB08822

    BigB08822 Well-Known Member

    So I am a little confused. Upstairs/Downstairs is just a spoof spin off of Downton Abbey but it isn't a one time thing and they are continuing with more episodes? When does Downton Abbey begin again, aren't they doing another season?
  23. Wyliefan

    Wyliefan Well-Known Member

    No, it's not related to Downton at all. It's a sequel of sorts to the old Upstairs Downstairs series.
  24. BigB08822

    BigB08822 Well-Known Member

    Oh gosh, I am confused, haha
  25. skatesindreams

    skatesindreams Well-Known Member

    Thanks for all the additional insights, floskate,

  26. pollyanna

    pollyanna In denial

    I ADORE Eileen Atkins.
  27. skatingfan5

    skatingfan5 Past Prancer's Corridor

    :lol: I was going to say that being without a pension (except her "hallmarked teapot"), must have made for a bit of rough-going for Rose. ;) It was good to see her again -- her character was always such a strong one on the original series.
    Great to see Eileen Atkins have a part in this sequel. And there definitely could never be another "Mrs. Bridges" or "Mr. Hudson" -- very wise to let the new cook and butler have their own very different characters.
    It's not just you Brits who have a craving for this sort of stuff, although without the class system hang-ups. :D
  28. Wyliefan

    Wyliefan Well-Known Member

    The name-dropping butler is growing on me, which is odd, because usually name-droppers annoy me. Must be because he's dropping really cool names, like Errol Flynn. :)
  29. Latte

    Latte Well-Known Member

    Loved it!
    I think I was born in the wrong time, I should have been born in the Gay Ninety's.
    That's the 1890's.:lol:
  30. mrr50

    mrr50 Well-Known Member

    If I remember correctly, James lost Rose's money along with his own and that's why he committed suicide. The son of the household doesn't lose the servants money, it just isn't done. Richard didn't have much money left after the market crash either.