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Does Yuna Kim have a chance for gold against Julia Lipnitskaya?

Discussion in 'The Trash Can' started by lily, Feb 10, 2014.

Does Yuna Kim have a chance for gold against Julia Lipnitskaya?

Poll closed Feb 17, 2014.
  1. Yes

    144 vote(s)
  2. No

    15 vote(s)
  1. demetriosj

    demetriosj Well-Known Member

    and what would be wrong with that?!
  2. lily

    lily Active Member

    Why? You think Lipnitskaya can't win over Yuna?
  3. Irish-Angel

    Irish-Angel Member

    Julia's PCS have risen steadily and if she throws down two more clean performances they'll go even higher. She's nearly pulled even with Carolina and Mao...if she has another clean SP she'll will pull even with them which will put her right on Yu-Na's heels. Yu-Na isn't known for skating flawless back-to-back programs...she's done it only twice in her career; Julia does it nearly every time she steps on the ice and in front of this Russian crowd, if she goes clean again in the FS, that 141+ will likely rise which will put pressure on Yu-Na to be pristine.

    If Yu-Na is clean she'll win but if she makes a mistake and Julia is clean, I think the judges will give it to Julia. I don't necessarily agree with that but it is the reality of the situation. Yu-Na has quality and maturity; Julia has better spins and harder content in addition to a year worth of momentum and Olympic sensation buzz...she became a bonafide star last week.

    The Russians are itching to give Julia that medal and over-scoring is very easy when the skater is clean. Julia is known for skating cleanly. For that reason if Yu-Na is going to win, she needs to be firing on all cylinders.[/QUOTE]

    Exactly my thoughts.......and right after the Team Event, it really seams that Julia has good chances to win. I mean face it: the way the Team Event was scored by the judges......have you seen Plushys (and by the way I really like him!!) program scores? Honestly I watched the men´s over and over again but I really don´t get it, where he got these program scores:confused: I mean it really seams, that Julia is not the only one overrated here..... but as a matter of fact....overrated or not Yunas scores this year never even got close to her top scores from the last Olys and Julia now has an absolute confidence Booster in her back with winning team Gold. I really wish Yuna all the best and a lot of strenghth for the competition, but I think she has to go clean to win it.
    Last edited: Feb 11, 2014
  4. Seerek

    Seerek Well-Known Member

    I'd have to review Yu-Na's layout for the long program (i believe it's 2 triples + 2 double axels after the halfway mark), but Julia Lipnitskaya backloading the long program with five jump elements after the halfway mark (4 triples + 1 double axel), plus the fact that she'll be attempting 7 triples vs. Kim's 6 could be enough of a technical buffer to compensate for differences in components to win overall (if Lipinitskaya is now at 8.75, Kim would be at mid 9s?).
  5. ehdtkqorl123

    ehdtkqorl123 Active Member

    FYI, Yuna's official name is Yuna Kim. No more Yu-Na or Yu Na!
  6. Skittl1321

    Skittl1321 Well-Known Member

    Just curious, but official where?
  7. ehdtkqorl123

    ehdtkqorl123 Active Member



    At the athlete's request, The Associated Press has started referring to the Olympic figure skating champion as Yuna Kim. Kim was previously referred to as Kim Yu-na, which is in AP style for South Korean names when the person has not expressed a preference for an English transliteration.

    The AP

    Nick Zaccardi ‏@nzaccardi 5hours ago
    "At the athlete's request, The Associated Press has started referring to the Olympic figure skating champion as Yuna Kim."

    Ollie Williams ‏@OllieW 5hours ago
    @nzaccardi Cannot tell you the delight it brings to have closure on that. I haven't known which version to use for years.

    Nick Zaccardi ‏@nzaccardi 5hours ago
    @OllieW NBC has been Yuna Kim, which took me some getting used to.
  8. Vash01

    Vash01 Fan of Yuzuru, Medvedeva, T&M, Shibs, P&C

    It's not unusual for judges to score home skaters higher than usual. It's happened in the USA, Canada, Japan. Why is anyone surprised if it's the Russian skaters' turn? If home inflation is there, let it be for everyone.

    However, I don't believe that Julia can beat a nearly clean Yuna or a nearly clean Mao. She could beat a clean Carolina if Carolina does not have the jumps content to challenge the TES of the other three. Right now I see Yuna and the favorite, and Mao & Julia as the closest challengers. Carolina and Gracie are dark horses who could run away with the gold, given the opportunity.
  9. Vagabond

    Vagabond Well-Known Member

    Actually, "Kim Yu-Na" isn't a correct transliteration of her Korean name, it's the by-product of an administrative slipup. And I don't believe she has ever used it; IIRC, she has always skated under the names "Yu-Na Kim" or "Yuna Kim" since when she first competed internationally as a novice.

  10. numbers123

    numbers123 Well-Known Member

    Unless all the 4 you listed implode, Gracie would not have a chance at gold. Team event did not have Yuna, Mao, Carolina, Adelina in the mix - the 2nd placement in TE probably would not have happened if any of those ladies were in that competition
  11. Skittl1321

    Skittl1321 Well-Known Member

    Thanks ehdtkqorl123.

    I was just wondering the source of the change, since Plushenko's name changed this year too.
  12. crs

    crs Well-Known Member


    so true
  13. crs

    crs Well-Known Member


    so a flaw yuna deserves to past a clean julia really? That's not going to happen. like I said before,vancouver was kim's olympics these are julia's. Even Yuna knos that.
  14. Vash01

    Vash01 Fan of Yuzuru, Medvedeva, T&M, Shibs, P&C

    If Yuna knew this, I doubt that she would be competing here. Unless she feels confident enough about defending her title, I don't think she would have made this comeback. It's hard to say where Julia will finish. The ice is slippery. I would love to see her skate two stellar programs, but it may or may not happen. Regardless, she has had a fantastic season. She should be very proud of herself, whether she wins another Olympic medal or not.
  15. mossop

    mossop New Member

    No way. To regain figure skating glory in Russia, a flawed Lipnitskaya will beat a perfect Kim.:biggrinbo
  16. AndyWarhol

    AndyWarhol Well-Known Member

    To be fair, up until 2 weeks ago it was still Yuna's Olympics.
  17. Cherub721

    Cherub721 YEAH!

    I think Yuna will be Plushenko'd. Win by a huge margin, come back four years later and skate well with your usual very good elements, but just miss gold, and then come back for the home games four years later. It even benefits the ISU because it could mean Yuna and Julia both stick around for four years. I don't see Julia retiring if she wins. It's different from Lipinski because she didn't have to deal with an age rule and had already gotten to experience Worlds a couple of times.
  18. shine

    shine Well-Known Member

    I never knew there would be a day when I'd actually be rooting for Kim to win a second Olympic Gold. What a nightmare.
    AndyWarhol and (deleted member) like this.
  19. clairecloutier

    clairecloutier Well-Known Member

    Yuna has stated that this Olympics is her last. Check out her thread here, which includes a new interview. In it, she mentions several times that this will be her final competition. I think she wants to make it clear to the Korean press and public that she will not skate in Pyeongchang.
  20. Karpenko

    Karpenko Not Impressed.

    Ugh. The fact this even exists absolutely sickens me.

    Dark misery of death in my soul. :drama:
  21. leesaleesa

    leesaleesa Active Member

    LOL! The sudden experts are coming out of the woodwork on the radio and at work yammering on how much better Yulia is than "that girl from Korea". As if Yuna is a girl, and her name isn't easy to say.

    "She's better because she sticks her leg up higher!!!!!!!!!".

    Ugh. BTW, why didn't Sotnikova skate in the team event? Did that mean she didn't get a gold?
  22. AndyWarhol

    AndyWarhol Well-Known Member

    Im guessing the Russian Fed decided that Julia was a better bet for both portions (which is probably correct - unfortunately). So no, Adelina does not get a medal for the team.
  23. fenway2

    fenway2 Well-Known Member

    Which I thought was a dumb decision given that now Julia must skate 4 clean programs. I don't think even she can do that. I expect her to splat in the short or long program. The odds of her skating cleanly two more times are against her. Although I hope I'm wrong.
  24. numbers123

    numbers123 Well-Known Member

    I don't know - she is young, fearless, and will have crowd energy behind her. I don't buy into the bribe theories, and cam see her on the top step.
  25. Cherub721

    Cherub721 YEAH!

    Edge calls notwithstanding, 13 of her 14 programs she's skated this season were clean (the outlier was the Cor LP).
  26. Isabel_O'Reiily

    Isabel_O'Reiily Member

    Why would she fall apart? She was not as prepared for the team event because it was new to her. After the team event event she was quoted as saying she felt more nervous for the the team event because she didn't want to let anyone down. After Plushenko performed so unexpectedly well for both portions she was putting more pressure on herself. When she left to go home Monday/Tuesday and train because she's not getting enough ice time in Sochi, she said now that the team event is over she can relax more because the individual is what she's used to. She more calm now for her event than she was when she was skating for her country and their expectations for team gold.

    If she can go out there with more pressure on her than ever, on Olympic ice for the first time and perform like that, well then, it's highly unlikely she'll suddenly lose it now. And even if she has an error, unlike at COR, she knows what to do now. If the error is tiny enough like the small flaw she had on the landing of the 2Axel at Europeans, she'll go on to skate a program with a higher BV when she moves the double-triple combo into the the second half.
  27. fenway2

    fenway2 Well-Known Member

    I never said she would fall apart. I just expect a fall from her in one of her next two programs. Every athlete has an off day and Julia is due for one. Mind you, I don't want it to happen, but I have a hunch it will. The odds that she skates perfectly two more times seems awfully slim. Something's gotta give eventually.
  28. DaiKozOda

    DaiKozOda Active Member

  29. UMBS Go Blue


  30. Manaud

    Manaud New Member

    No she did not get a gold.

    I have been a bit confused by some of the scores and am anxious to see the protocols