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Confess your sins

Discussion in 'The Trash Can' started by alchemy void, May 10, 2012.

  1. nubka

    nubka Well-Known Member

    I agree!

    I hate tights over the boots.

    While he is still rough around the edges, I actually like Kevin Reynold's skating.

    I miss the old Evan/Johnny rivalry.

    I like Worlds better then Nationals.

    I'll miss Rachael Flatt if she doesn't compete next season.

    I know she's all grown up now, but I still miss Ashley Wagner's ponytail and the spunk she used to have on the ice.

    It doesn't bother me at all that Evora & Ladwig are no longer skating.

    I like Denny & Coughlin.
  2. BmcC102

    BmcC102 Active Member

    1. I hate tan/beige boots on ladies. I end up disliking the skater and their programs whenever a skater chooses them.

    2. I'll tolerate tights over the boots ONLY because there is always a chance that they'll end up tucking them into a beautiful, white boot. :)

    3. The tights over only part of the boot look (Elene G., Miki Ando early in her career, Michelle Kwan at 05 Worlds) is AWFUL. I can't enjoy those programs because of it.

    4. Ultimate confession: I care way too much about the above topic of boots/tights and actually thanked god when Sasha Cohen wore the white skate look at 2002 Olympics...
  3. Davis&WhiteFan

    Davis&WhiteFan New Member

    My first time really watching skating was at the Vancouver Olympics. That's when I fell in love with the sport.

    I love, love, LOVED Plushenko during the Vancouver SP. Then I loved Evan Lysacek during the LP.

    I was a total Patrick Chan fangirl during the 2010-2011 season. Then during the 2011 WC, maybe because Patrick totally ran away with it, I became a Daisuke fan.

    I was never interested in pairs until Volosozhar and Trankov came along.
  4. escaflowne9282

    escaflowne9282 Reformed Manspreader

  5. Pierre

    Pierre New Member

    Judging should not be "anonymous".

    Judges who commit a serious offense should be banned for life. Small punishments harm the reputation of the sport.

    Instructional materials/videos should never include current skaters .

    People who think that politics doesn't play a major role are extremely naive. However, people who think outcomes are always nothing but politics are misguided.

    It bothers me when people say something that suggests that they think that judges in the 6.0 era had no standards to go by at all.

    In an ideal world, GOE and PCS would be scored by different panels.

    Kwan probably should have won in 98.

    Virtue and Moir have been overmarked many times .

    USFSA needs to approach its skaters from a modern perspective instead of one that seems like a weird mixture of the 1950s and 1990s.

    S&P's Love Story was a masterpiece. If not for everything that came after, I think most people would agree.

    Baiul, Joubert, Plushenko, Henie, Kim, Rochette, Buttle, Chan , Witt , Cohen, and many more are on my overrated list. Doesn't mean that many of them weren't great, but the praise was excessive and the criticism too forgiving.

    I have many more controversial opinions (and want to explain some of the ones I already stated in more detail), but that will have to wait as I am typing on a phone and tired .
    Last edited: May 17, 2012
  6. AnnMJensen

    AnnMJensen Active Member

    I have never understood why ladies' skating was considered "the main event". Every once in a while there is an interesting one, but mostly it is a snooze to me.
    I like ANY compulsory dance (even polka) better than most free dances.
    I have had two skaters I have actively wished would fall and crash. Both due to their overly heterosexual bombast, not their skating.
    When a skater I know personally skates badly it haunts me for far too long.
    I liked skating better when I didn't know "how the sausage was made". Sometimes too much information is... too much.
    I wish skaters ability matched their personalities - nice ones skate well, mean ones skate bad. I would drink much less.
  7. AnnMJensen

    AnnMJensen Active Member

    Oh - I forgot my big ones:
    I HATE that the Olympics matter so freaking much.
    I do not admire skaters for going to school. I admire them for skating.
    I hate when the public/federation picks a "next big thing".
  8. misskarne

    misskarne #AustraliaForTheTeamEvent

    - I hate over the boot tights and think they make all legs look chunky and clunky. Even long slim legs look bad in them.

    - I hate the notion that men must be "masculine". If a man happens to skate with grace, elegance, fluidity, a bit of showmanship and flexibility, good on him. It should NOT be a reason to deride that skater or hold him back. If a man wants to do a spiral sequence or layback spin and he can, good on him and he should be able to do it! That does NOT mean he is less of a skater or less of a man than anyone else! :mad:

    - I am nearly 24 and when Josh Farris replied to my tweet I squealed like I was 10 years old. I have no regrets.
    Last edited: May 17, 2012
  9. falling_dance

    falling_dance Coaching Patrick

    On reflection, I'm fine with Kim winning the short program at last year's Worlds. I think the title could have gone either way.

    I like most of Lysacek's Scheherazade FS.

    Remember that horrible yellow "pleather" dress Susanna Poykio wore for her Rach 2 FS? I really like it.

    Yukari Nakano's Firebird Weirtard is one of my all-time favorite skating costumes.

    I feel a little guilty about the Misha Ge confession from page one of this thread. He's very talented.

    I like Hell's Bells. I love Mao's Masquerade Waltz SP.

    Beige/tan skates don't irk me.

    The Uncrustables banner of bygone days makes me want to go out and loot the freezer section of the nearest supermarket (and not due to any craving, either).

    I prefer Galina Grzhibovskaya's free skating to Elena Shcheglova's. Take that, Shcheglova fans.

    I'll never tire of hearing Scheherazade or Tosca in competition.
    Last edited: May 17, 2012
  10. PinkFeathers

    PinkFeathers Active Member

    Yeah, this so much. Give me beauty, grace, power, elegance over the macho manly snoozefest that was mens skating in the US around the late 90's/early 00's :scream: You'd think we'd be past this crap already, but apparently not :rolleyes:
  11. Zemgirl

    Zemgirl Well-Known Member

    I know conventional wisdom is that pairs has suffered the most under CoP, but I actually think pairs hasn't been too bad (the abomination that was catchfoot death spirals notwithstanding) and dance has suffered the most. It's practically become pairs skating with twizzles.

    Also, everyone hates tights over the boots* so clearly it does not belong in a confess your sins/unpopular opinions thread.

    * except, unfortunately, some skaters.
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  12. justAfsfan

    justAfsfan Active Member

    - I can't stand Moir facial expression, I think it is overdone.

    - Trankov is narcissistic and annoying and I wonder how people find him hot.

    - Almost all Kwan performance leave me cold.

    - I don't like many of Yuna programs (her performance is another story).

    - I like Miki Ando cleoprata and enjoy laughing at Kesnia's Monroe program.

    - I don't like Daisuke's program at all when he was with Morozov.

    - I don't see how skater people in international board praise (ex. Kostner FD)
    have that much more transition than skater they complain about lacking transition.

    - I don't understand people who want all girl to be ballerina, I prefer diversity.
  13. Johnny_Fever

    Johnny_Fever Well-Known Member

    Back in my day men skated with grace, elegance, fluidity, showmanship and flexibility, without turning into some weird sexually ambiguous extraterrestrial.
  14. clarie

    clarie Well-Known Member

    I dislike mean spirited people who constantly make derrogatory comments about skaters competing against their favorites.
    Ozzisk8tr and (deleted member) like this.
  15. allezfred

    allezfred Master/Mistress of Sneer Staff Member

    Borderline xenophobia. Exactly what this thread needs. :rolleyes:
  16. winterone

    winterone Banned Member

    I am amused and dislike crazy Skitso Tiger Skating Moms and their ruthless pursuit of dominance through their Little Girls. Asian moms excluded..they just can't help it..lol
  17. sadya

    sadya Active Member

    These aren't really sins nor difficult to admit, but seem to be unpopular opinions:

    - I like Bail's Olympic lpl and her costume, same goes for Kerrigan's sp and ex that year

    - I like Kostner's 2012 WLP costume, I often seem to enjoy costumes and hairdo's which most people didn't like

    - I enjoyed Bonali's skating, though I agreed with the '94 Worlds Sato win

    - Chen should have received better sp scores at '98 Olympics and I was upset when she didn't win '96 Worlds, but I do understand Kwan winning, they were both gold medal worthy

    - I was upset when Lipinski won '98 Olympics over Kwan, but after rewatching several times I understood the decision, they were both amazing enough for the gold

    - I didn't like most programs of Zagorodniuk, not even the one everyone seemed to love when he won Euros with it

    - most Eldredge programs were boring for me

    - I don't 2008 sp of Buttle (love his 2008 fp though)

    - the sudden way Buttle moves his head this way or that way annoys me, it disturbes his lovely skating for me, one moment I'm enjoying his program, I'm in this different realm and don't even realise anymore that I'm watching skating, that's how much I'm into the program, then one sudden head movement to where ever ruins it

    - I didn't like most Yamaguchi competition programs, but love her pro programs

    - I miss the straight footwork from one side of the rink to the other (I don't like how they go back and forth many times before they reach the other end, the choreo steps)

    - I enjoy watching the poto fs of Chan, especially his performance at 2011 Canadian nationals

    - I don't like most exhibition programs of Lambiel, but love all his competition programs

    - I enjoyed the skating of Tugba Karademir (is she still involved with skating or has she completely moved on to something else?)

    - I like the idea of a hip hop sd
  18. Proustable

    Proustable New Member

    Thank you.
  19. misskarne

    misskarne #AustraliaForTheTeamEvent

    One more to add to my list:

    - I hate it when skaters cannot be themselves and express themselves freely on the ice without attracting derogatory comments.
  20. Pierre

    Pierre New Member

    For me, it comes down to maturity, not whether the skating is stereotypically masculine, feminine, or something in the middle. Some male skaters present themselves in a fashion that isn't traditional for men. That is fine. Others act like a young teenager that just discovered the concept of pride . That I don't like. I realize that some at the top still are teenagers, many are coming to terms with themselves in one sense or another, and that emotional development of such people is likely to be slower than others due to factors outside their control , but understanding the reasons doesn't change the fact that it comes across as a bit immature. At some point, the ice princess is expected to transform into a lady.
  21. gkelly

    gkelly Well-Known Member

    This is a speak-for-yourself thread. You don't get to tell me what I hate.

    My sin, in the eyes of Zemgirl, is that I much PREFER over-the-boot tights to tucked in.

    I also prefer dark opaque leggings to illusion fabric tights. ;)

    I want to see sportier outfits in competition, such as shorts over leggings. Who said sequins are sporty?

    Intellectually, I can appreciate simple stroking and steady, held-out exquisite edges. Especially live if performed with power.

    But emotionally I tend to be more interested in more complex choreography.

    My ideal is complexity performed with high quality, but given the choice as a spectator I'd rather see more done acceptably than less done exquisitely.

    Which means that my favorite skaters artistically are not always the ones who win.

    Pairs in the 6.0 era usually put me to sleep, so I'm still less interested in that discipline even though the technical content is more interesting to me now.

    My favorite ice dance era was 1990-92, for the artistic aspects. IJS makes the judging more fair, but I'm still waiting for a way to combine more objective scoring with encouraging creativity.
  22. dewey

    dewey Member

    In no particular order:

    I am on team Nancy.

    I respect hard work and discipline more than raw talent.

    That said, I wanted Nicole to come back and kick some Tara and Michelle butt.

    I was glad when Kyoko and Jason started beating Jenny and Todd because I was sick of hearing how being in love made Jenny and Todd better skaters.

    I think B&S were the last great Russian pair.

    I do not find Kavaguti believable as a Russian romantic.

    I really hate that COP has made is possible for skaters to eliminate their weaker jumps from their repertoire and still win competitions.

    I suspect that Katia Gordeeva is all sweetness and light only as long as she is getting her due deference as the queen bee.

    I wanted to be Katia Gordeeva from about 1988-1995.

    I think Katarine Witt is not so much a great skater as a savvy marketer of her sex appeal.

    I think Tanith is pretty but conventional and Meryl is a rare beauty.

    I miss the 90s in skating.
  23. ratatouille

    ratatouille New Member

  24. Bournekraatzfan

    Bournekraatzfan Well-Known Member

    Exactly. Thank you for calling it out, allezfred.:respec:
  25. Zemgirl

    Zemgirl Well-Known Member

    "Confess your sins" implies that one should share unpopular/unconventional opinions, doesn't it? And tights over boots seem pretty unpopular on this thread and elsewhere, so confessing to disliking them is kind of the opposite of the point, isn't it?

    Liking tights over boots seems right up there with admitting to liking Morozov CoP choreo, so I congratulate you on your originality ;)

    Calling it borderline was generous.
  26. gkelly

    gkelly Well-Known Member

    Yes, but you could have made that point to the poster you were addressing by saying "most people dislike them."

    By saying "everybody hates them," you're saying that I (being part of everybody) hate them, and that is not true.

    I realize you were probably being hyperbolic for effect, but the effect it had on me was feeling that you were putting false words in my mouth.
  27. Bournekraatzfan

    Bournekraatzfan Well-Known Member

    +1 to this and to what clarie said

    true. and the post that immediately followed it wasn't much better.
  28. ItalianFan

    ItalianFan Active Member

    I HATE hip hop. How could such a jerky (in terms of movement), seemingly uncoordinated collection of awkward moves ever be translated into something pleasurable to watch on ice??? I don't like polkas either so maybe next season I I'll watch hockey instead.
  29. JasperBoy

    JasperBoy Aging in a great place

    I have a rather strong attraction to a Canadian male skater 45 years younger than me. (Despite my username I am female BTW)
  30. essence_of_soy

    essence_of_soy Well-Known Member

    Is this the skating equivalent of Demi and Ashton?