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Christine Brennan's Article on USA Ladies: "U.S. women's skating lacks dominant star"

Discussion in 'Great Skate Debate' started by TheIronLady, Jan 25, 2013.

  1. RD

    RD Well-Known Member

    I never said those 3 were done. But they definitely have all controlled their own destiny (at one point and/or another) and failed to rise to the occasion...numerous times.
  2. skateboy

    skateboy Well-Known Member

    Oh, okay. :lol:
  3. MacMadame

    MacMadame Cat Lady-in-Training

    But USFS doesn't control NBC Sports.
  4. Iceman

    Iceman Well-Known Member

    I wonder if the judges have relayed that to her, remembering they told Flatt to lighten her hair and cut it.
  5. Iceman

    Iceman Well-Known Member

    I wonder if Ashley feels some pressure to try something she is not ready for a worlds, a 3/3. I hope not.
  6. aftershocks

    aftershocks Well-Known Member

    Sounds like a self help mantra: "We all definitely control our own destiny and have numerous opportunities to rise to the occasion. And if perchance we fail, ... we may be doomed (or privileged?) to come back in another incarnation to go through the same or similar challenges until we get it right!" :lol:

    Re the current present state of affairs in figure skating, skaters may control what they are able to do on the ice, but they don't necessarily control their "destiny" in terms of what the judges decide. But yes, doing one's best can make a crucial difference in the judges' marks, or not (depends on a variety of factors).
  7. RD

    RD Well-Known Member

    Point is this: she's going to have to push the technical envelope to keep up with the up-and-coming crop. Not just internationally to compete against Kim, Asada, et al. but now also domestically if she wants to stay on top...(and particularly if there are only 2 spots...it could get REALLY competitive)

    No 3-3 in the SP or 2A/3T in the FS is simply giving points away. Unless, of course, she is not consistent enough on them to go for it. It's a risk but sometimes you have to take risks to win.

    Yes, in the sense that Wagner is also a strong US hopeful and wears the US Champion cap in order to take some pressure off of Gold...but otherwise it really doesn't matter. I don't see them being too chummy

    This comment was not intended to imply that those three are finished, as mentioned above. However, I've lost track of the amount of times they've (collectively) thrown away opportunity after opportunity to win a medal or make a statement of some sort...
  8. aftershocks

    aftershocks Well-Known Member

    ^^ We all have our varying perspectives and debate can be a good thing. In any case, it's not necessary to be "chummy" in order to respect your fellow competitors. Yes, it's an individual sport, but it's also good to be team-spirited, especially for World Team Trophy and the team comp to come at Sochi. :) Sure, I know it can be a bit testy when everyone's fighting for the one spot at the top. But again, as a fan I'm rooting for the entire U.S. team to do well at 4CCs and Worlds. And yes, the competition should continue to be quite interesting at Worlds and Nationals events currently and going forward.

    Re Czisny, Flatt, and Nagasu, they each will have personal challenges no matter what lies ahead. I wish them all well, and I think they each have taken excellent advantage of their opportunities and have fought determinedly against setbacks. It seems to me that there are many competitors who would love to achieve even half of what these ladies have accomplished on and off the ice. :)
  9. aftershocks

    aftershocks Well-Known Member


    Above originally posted by aemeraldrainc in the "Figure Skating Lacks Popularity" thread in GSD. I thought it might be interesting to discuss here as well since a tweet by Ashley is included, and the article mentions ladies figure skating in the context of "searching for new stars." I think the mention of Dick heading a lecture discussion complete with skating performance clips at the Film Society of Lincoln Center (sponsored by Ice Theater of New York) was very interesting. I agree with the "Outfront" blogger that such a lecture style touring series would be great. I also think ISU and feds should collaborate on unique ways to entertain and educate the public about the new judging system.

    Also, I don't think there is a need to "search" for new stars, but simply to think outside the box and beyond the status quo re promoting all of the skating athletes/ stars who already exist, but are being ignored (and it shouldn't be all about the ladies, as others have noted in recent threads).
  10. skatesindreams

    skatesindreams Well-Known Member

    I would gladly pay for a DVD of that presentation.
  11. danceronice

    danceronice Corgi Wrangler

    Me, too!
  12. demetriosj

    demetriosj Well-Known Member