Discussion in 'Great Skate Debate' started by Cant Skate, Jan 31, 2013.
Yay! It IS Paige and Rudy....the flights just posted I'm so excited to get to see them!
Does anyone know how Purich/Tran are doing recently? Do they have any plan to skate at the summer competitions? Since I'm a big fan of Tran, I'm grateful for any small information.
Purich/Tran are scheduled to compete at the Quebec Summer Championships near Montreal, Aug. 8-11, 2013 (see the Canadian Summer Competitions thread in Kiss and Cry for info links; hopefully there will be a free, live/on demand stream again this year).
WOW Thank you, Sylvia. Happy to hear about them. I'll try to see the stream. I hope they will do well.
I don't think this was ever posted -- interview with Margaret Purdy and Michael Marinaro from last week: Purdy and Marinaro Ready for Senior Stage
Including program news:
Ooooooo, Prudy and Marinaro working with Kurt -- what a wonderful pairing. Thanks for that update.
Was just running through the revised entry list for Wildrose (as of July 22) and the team of Digness/Thiessen previously registered in Junior, is now listed in Novice.
Registered for Skate Detroit in Senior: Bobak/Penasse, Brown/Furiano (new), Jones/Beharry, Lawrence/Swiegers, Moore-Towers/Moscovitch, Purdy/Marinaro, Rau/Rob Schultz (new).
Registered in Junior: Dobson/Sheldrick, Orr/Simpson (new), Seguin/Bilodeau (new). Eby/Varley and Wong/Su are the 2 pairs signed up in Novice.
Look for SP news/results to be posted later today in the Skate Detroit thread in the Kiss and Cry forum.
Anyone able to confirm or deny the rumour that Jones & Beharry haves split (as posted in the Skate Detroit thread for those who have Kiss & Cry access)?
If it's true, that's the second partnership in a row for Beharry that has only lasted a year in spite of successful results. He's an incredibly talented skater, so it is very curious as to why none of these partnerships seem to be working out.
They were removed from the national team http://www.skatecanada.ca/en-us/athletes/nationalteam.aspx so it's most likely confirmed.
Beharry has a lot of talent but him not being able to keep a partnership going is a concern. And with Moscovitch and Radford getting close to 30, Canada needs its younger pair guys to get going.
Recent article in La Presse about Richard Gauthier and his pair teams:
Belatedly. here are 3 videos from Skate Detroit, re-posting from the Kiss and Cry forum along with results of the Canadian Senior pairs:
Moore-Towers / Moscovitch's debut of their "La Strada" FS, choreographed by Mark Pillay: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqLF_5Jf1rM
Lawrence / Swiegers SP: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Kgl0VUs3ko
Purdy / Marinaro CAN (1:03 clip) FS to "Casablanca": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IC1U1H_vIHY
2013 Detroit Senior Pairs SP recap article (mentions M-T/M had a new SP choreographed but decided to go back to last season's): http://web.icenetwork.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20130726&content_id=54824738&vkey=ice_news
Skate Detroit Senior Pairs FS recap article (Kris Wirtz mentions M-T/M will compete in the Salt Lake Senior B next month): http://web.icenetwork.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20130730&content_id=55241034&vkey=ice_news
Also via IN:
"The new Canadian team of Julianne Séguin and Charlie Bilodeau landed two triple throws and won the [Skate Detroit] junior pairs free skate with 88.84 points."
S/B scored 47.34 and were 2nd in the Jr. SP. The new team of Mary Orr/Phelan Simpson, who are assigned the the first JGP in Latvia, were 8th in the Skate Detroit Jr. SP (41.58) and 7th in the FS (71.40).
Moore-Towers/Moscovitch also skated their new FS last night in Thornhill (as guests in the Scarboro FSC/Ice Dance Elite exhibition) - did anyone attend?
TSL's 30-minute interview with Duhamel/Radford: http://www.theskatinglesson.com/tsls-interview-with-meagan-duhamel-and-eric-radford/
Senior Pairs, Duhamel & Radford's new SP
Junior Pairs, Sequin and Bilodeau's SP
I was able to be there for pair SPs, junior and senior. I have to say I really like Bilodeau/Seguin and really did not like Purich/Tran. I know it's early and have to give them time but all I was looking for was anything I could grab onto that suggested to me this pair had a little bit of something to get excited about. Didn't see it. They are both talented but just not naturally well suited to each other. Will take a lot of work for them to get where they need to go.
Speaking of lots of work, P/T's 3ZTh is just not there yet. No timing between them in warmup or in the skate. Hopefully that was just a bad day. I do wish them well though...although I'll say again I'd love to see Purich with Marinaro. Now THAT team would go places.
I agree with you about both. P/T are going to need a lot of work. I think it's a bit soon to be penciling them in for the third Olympic spot.
I love Duhamel/Radford's short program (I've already watched it four times), and from the way they skate it, they seem to love it too. They are skating really well for this point in the season. It looks to me like Meagan's thrown 3Lz has more height than last year, which might account for the hand down.
There were so many interesting pair teams in the Quebec Summer competition - what a treat. Some of the new junior pair teams were much better than I expected.
Purich/Tran do need a lot of work, but then so did Duhamel/Radford when they started, and look where they are now. If they are in it for the long haul, and not just for an Olympic spot this season, they could eventually be very good IMO.
I was encouraged by what I saw with P/T. They're going for elements (3tw and throw 3z) that she hasn't done for a long time, if ever, and they've only been skating together for 5 months. Although they haven't quite gelled as a team yet, I was struck by how well they seemed to relate to each other as people-- a very good sign, IMO. As for an Olympic spot, while I agree it's too early to write them in, they were only 2 points below L/S's score from last week, so it's also far too early to count them out.
I missed Sequin and Bilodeau in real time, but watched this. Before I get excited, how old is she? If she's 16 and already through growing, then yes. If she's 13 then I'll wait. They did very well here regardless.
Séguin will be 17 in November (she competed at 4CC's this past season). Also, although Sequin would be a great figure skating name, it's SéGuin.
D/R's SP seems more for him than her - she's not a pretty-princess skater. But it had lovely moments - the entry into the death spiral alone is more creative and beautiful than most teams attempt in their entire program.
As for the third Olympic slot.... well, that's another kettle of fish. I'd feel bad for L/S to drop to 4th after being third for three years in a nation with two spots, but they do make the point losing mistakes that suggest they can be overtaken.
She should change it! If she's 17, then I'm definitely interested. I was afraid she'd keep growing, but she most likely is past that. Marks them down as a team to watch. I don't get too excited about juniors because of obvious reasons, but this looks like a team that will transition to seniors after Sochi.
I thought Seguin had loads of potential a few years ago when she skated with Evans (I think that was his name). She quit that partnership to concentrate on her singles career but its great to see her back with Charlie Bilodeau. I like them alot and hopefully they'll be able to mature into a solid team in the next couple of seasons.
Add me to the list that wasn't impressed with Purich & Tran all that much but I know its early and with time working under Gauthier and Bruno & Julie Marcotte they should be ok. The two teams--Seguin/Bilodeau and Purich/Tran could end up being the top two Canadian teams heading into the next Olympic cycle.
Copying over the top CAN pairs videos from the Kiss and Cry forum:
1 Duhamel/Radford (71.44): http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/37133305
3 Purich/Tran (mislabeled; 52.50): http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/37134027
SP protocols: http://www.patinage.qc.ca/doc/resultats/CQE_2013/22_segJudgesDetails.pdf
Top 3 Junior Pairs SP (top 2 will be on JGP for CAN):
1 Julianne Seguin/Charlie Bilodeau (51.70): http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/37131995
2 Caitlin Fields USA/Sebastian Arcieri (39.10): http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/37132203
3 Vanessa Grenier/Maxime Deschamps (38.86): http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/37131815
SP protocols: http://www.patinage.qc.ca/doc/resultats/CQE_2013/21_segJudgesDetails.pdf
I just watched Duhamel & Radford's SP and I absolutely adore this program! There's a softness about it that I love. I expect it will be awesome by the time it's all gelled.
So in love with Meagan & Eric's new short. I made sure I got to see it live, and I've watched it a few times since. Initially I wasn't excited about this pair but they've won me over. Meagan really is a great example of what a lot of work and determination can do. She's very soft and pretty in this program and as a team they really have capitalized on their strengths. They've become a really well rounded team and I can't wait to cheer them on all the way to the Olympics. Also, how exciting for Eric that a piece of music he wrote is going to go with them. Such a great story!!
A look back at Meagan and Eric's short program skating at this time in the season in previous seasons shows that they are way ahead of where they have been in any previous season. It also shows that a team which starts off with one or two poor competitions in the summer season may end up being a very good team:
1. 2010: Skated at the Quebec Summer competition, short program score 49.76. By worlds their score had reached 58.83.
2. 2011: Quebec Summer competition short program score 45.14 (!), mid-Atlantics just a bit later was a bit better at 54.38. By worlds their score had reached 63.69.
3. 2012: They did not skate at Quebec Summer, but at Souvenir Georges-Ethier in September their score was 62.16. By worlds that had reached 73.61.
I'm not extrapolating their score of over 71 points here to anything they may achieve later in the season, simply pointing out that they are in by far the best state of preparedness they have ever been at this point in the season.
Also a comment on Purich/Tran: Natasha Purich also tends to be a slow starter in the summer competitions. The score of Purich/Arcieri at last season's Quebec Summer competition was only 31.05 points. They had greatly improved by the time of their second JGP assignment and Quebec sectionals. I expect to see a similar thing happen with this Purich/Tran. It was always unlikely IMO that they would have a blockbuster start because a) it's a new team, and b) they are adding considerable technical difficulty compared to what Natasha is used to from the junior level. I was actually quite impressed by how well they handled it.
Yes, Andrew Evans was Seguin's first partner (2011-2012 season).
The video not labeled but here is Seguin/Bilodeau's Jr FS to a James Bond medley (they scored 90.50, slightly higher than in their Skate Detroit FS last month): http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/37186701
Quebec Jr Pairs FS protocols: http://www.patinage.qc.ca/doc/resultats/CQE_2013/27_segJudgesDetails.pdf