Discussion in 'The Trash Can' started by Vash01, May 11, 2012.
Which THREE singles male skaters do the best triple axel?
Weir's axel always looked odd to me. The way he lifts his head makes it look like it's very hard work. Yags axel like his other jumps, while big, wasn't the most graceful looking and he tended to land very hard. Voted for Petrenko and Kulik.
And Matt Savoie for all those incredible entries that no one else is capable of!
Kulik and Lindemann (and now Gachinski) also executed 3A out of spread eagle and their 3A-s were much, much better than Savoie's who had difficult entries but very ugly jumps.
I always thought Viacheslav Zagorodniuk had one of the biggest 3axels. His height and ice coverage were amazing.
Here is a good one at the 40 second mark of the clip
Plushenko, Kulik and Yagudin.
Ryan Bradley had a great triple axel too IMO.
If this poll was not limited to men, I would have placed Midori Ito on it.
i'm SOOOOOOOOOO shocked not to see Stephane Lambiel and Adam Rippon on this list! (Considering the rest of their skating, the heck with the 3A!)
yuzuru hanyu with his 3A-3A sequence
I find Kozuka's 3 A smooth as butter
Kulik's was amazing and yeah...Midori should me in the list (of best 3axel)
The best is, IMO, Kulik's
I loved Kurt Bowning's : http://youtu.be/2SxtqOEi6og?t=17s
And Alexei Urmanov's : http://youtu.be/aBBvnxPtwh0?t=1m9s (I'm not fond of the 3Toe at the end, but I like his 3Axels in general)
Brezina, Hanyu, and Song
Then from juniors, Han Yan, Joshua Farris, and Keiji Tanaka all have very nice, strong 3a jumps, better than most of the seniors now that I think about it.
He may not have had much else going for him all the time, but Griazev always had a fantastic 3A
How was Savoie's 3axel ugly? It flew.
Back to back spread eagle entry http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-w872zjNfzY#t=2m50s
Hydroblad entry http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-zsYqfw-pg#t=2m55s
Another entry http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFBL9Z-SZIc#t=3m05s
Lindemann and Gachinski's axels are not better than Savoie's. Gachinski's spread eagle entry does not come close in quality or sureness IMO. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0ywEbhH8_Y#t=1m44s
Besdies, they've got height but not a lot of distance. Matt's is a lot more textbook IMO.
Hanyu almost always lands his 3a on a slight inside edge or flat and flips over very quickly. For me, it breaks the flow just enough that I don't consider it a great jump. Still a very good jump, though.
Petrenko's at their best were just breath taking.
Are you kidding? Lambiel always struggled with the 3A. He even took it out of his SP because he often fell on it.
Adam's 3A- I don't see anything extraordinary in it.
A lifetime supply of soup says "yes".
Petrenko's triple axel, when watched live, was very powerful and he did it with ease. He seemed more comfortable with the 3A than with any other 3 jump.
Kulik's was light and effortless, like his other jumps. I particularly liked his 3A entrance from spread eagles.
Urmanov never got enough credit for the wonderful skater he was. His 3A was textbook perfect.
Plushenko has a great 3A, and probably more consistent than anyone else. I am not sure why he is getting lower votes than Yagudin's. AY did powerful 3As but they often appeared a bit labored to me. I guess the votes reflect love for Yags and hatred for Plushy, as we have seen on this board.
In his eligible competing days, Orser's 3A was considered among the best.
In any case, I knew it would be tough to pick just 3 skaters from this list.
I'm surprised Yagudin got so many votes. He did many things well but his 3axel always looked really heavy and labored.
But then I suppose Yags is the male Kwan and will always do well in any poll his name is in.
Plushenko's is more effortless and lighter, but I don't think it covered the same distance and therefore didn't have the same power as Yags.
I agree that Yags is a bit overrated in the poll because his landings were usually a bit hunchy.
I'd have them both behind Petrenko and Urmanov.
Not surprised to see Kulik winning this but SHOCKED how little votes Kurt Browning's getting. His 3axel was a monster!
Yag's 3A didn't have the pretty air position, but had great power, he was so athletic so I voted for him. Plush for his air position, and Weir because I like how effortless it looks.
Michal Brezina, hands down for me! And even objectively, Brezina's axel is better than more than half of the other poll options.
Yags really didn't have great ice coverage. And I agree it looked quite laboured. Didn't have that beautiful pencil like air position that others had.
I voted for Todd (best one in the business, imo) along with Ilia and Viktor. Tough choice, though.
Honoroble mention to Phillipe Candeloro and Stannick Jeannette who had huge triple axels.