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2010 NCAA Gymnastics

Discussion in 'Other Sports' started by Fridge_Break, Dec 17, 2009.

  1. Fridge_Break

    Fridge_Break #HotMessExpress

    The season is right around the corner! Meets will be starting within the matter of weeks... thought I would get the thread going for this year! Who do you think is going to have a good season?

    Preseason coaches poll: http://troester.com/gym/WRankings/2010/WPreseason.htm

    Additionally, (since I will be most invested in the Big Ten conference) here is the inaugural Big Ten coaches poll results for this year:

    1. Penn State
    2. Illinois
    3. Michigan
    4. Ohio State
    5. Michigan State
    6. Minnesota
    7. Iowa

    Illinois: Allison Buckley, Melissa Fernandez
    Iowa: Jessa Hansen, Rebecca Simbhudas
    Michigan: Natalie Beilstein, Kylee Botterman
    Michigan State: Nicole Curler, Kelsey Morley
    Minnesota: Kristin Furukawa, Alexis Russell
    Ohio State: Rebecca Best, Hillary Dow
    Penn State: Whitney Bencsko, Brandi Personett
  2. BigB08822

    BigB08822 Well-Known Member

    Geaux LSU! I hope they have a great season but losing ACK is going to hurt.
  3. Rob

    Rob Beach Bum

  4. Fridge_Break

    Fridge_Break #HotMessExpress

    From what I remember, she has been suspended from the team indefinitely. I was checking out some NCAA gymnastics fan message boards and people were posting predictions for UF's season lineups and no one was including her name anywhere. Between that and the legal trouble she is in, I am going to assume that her career as a Gator gymnast is over.


    Here's some videos from various team's intrasquad meets, if anyone is interesting in a preview for what's in store for this season... I'll try to add more as they become available (slash I make a better attempt to find them :D)

    Vault: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63991Ww2buQ
    Bars: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRkmaeJTRbk
    Beam, part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MABLk7uiHCE
    Beam, part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MARbqU5rJMU
    Beam, part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2wUqK8Ss-A
    Floor, part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RB_AUI6uho
    Floor, part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMUfpsaao7U

    Michigan State (ahem, I recorded these :p )
    Vault & Bars: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoZYrMNlbY8
    Beam, part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ-MWnj2WkE
    Beam, part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m01lH_AG3Oc
    Floor, part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_WOt2idEzo
    Floor, part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4euCZqq0qTc

  5. Karpenko

    Karpenko Not Impressed.

    Courtney McCool for World domination!!!!
  6. BigB08822

    BigB08822 Well-Known Member

    LSU has their first meet this coming Friday. I can't believe it is so soon! I actually need to see if they had/have a meet this weekend as, in the past, they ALWAYS have their first meet of the season at an away meet, usually in Cancun or something. It would be odd for their first meet to be a home meet but maybe this year things are different. Off to check...
  7. AYS

    AYS I'd rather have a pug for my president

    I guess this isn't new news, but since I don't follow gymnastics that regularly, :eek:

    This seems a bit ironic, given the situation: :shuffle:
  8. BigB08822

    BigB08822 Well-Known Member

    I checked and LSU's first meet is the 8th and it is indeed a home meet. It is a change for them but I wont complain as I will be able to attend. :)
  9. Fridge_Break

    Fridge_Break #HotMessExpress

    The season starts tomorrow!!! :cheer2: I'll be in East Lansing to watch a quad meet between Michigan State, Penn State, West Virginia, and Western Michigan... I'm so excited!

    Here's a list of the major meets that will be going on this weekend:

    Friday, 01/08
    #3 Alabama @ #14 Auburn
    #4 Florida @ #9 Oklahoma
    #13 Illinois @ #10 Oregon State, w/ Alaska & Air Force
    Wisconsin-Stout @ #23 Iowa State
    Maryland @ #6 LSU
    #11 Penn State @ #24 Michigan State, w/ #21 West Virginia & Western Michigan
    #18 Ohio State @ #16 Missouri
    #7 Stanford @ #1 Georgia
    #15 Nebraska @ #25 Washington

    Saturday, 01/09
    #20 Arizona @ #8 Arkansas
    Iowa @ #12 Michigan, w/ Bowling Green
    #2 Utah @ #5 UCLA
    #17 Denver @ #22 Minnesota
    New Hampshire @ Rutgers
    SE Missouri @ Illinois-Chicago
    Texas Women's @ Kentucky

    #19 Boise State is the only school in the top 25 that is not in action this weekend.
  10. BigB08822

    BigB08822 Well-Known Member

    Wow, a lot of big match ups the first week of the season. Look how many ranked teams face off! Of course, win/loss is irrelevant in NCAA Gymnastics so no teams are really in danger of losing ranking spots unless they tank and score poorly.
  11. HeatherC

    HeatherC Go Team SW Florida! =)

    Thanks for the update with the matchups this weekend! I hope the Big Ten network shows some of the meets again this year. :cheer:
  12. redonthehead

    redonthehead Well-Known Member

    We'll be the AU/UA meet tonight. I hope that the UA gymnists partied too much during the championship game so maybe we'll win :p. We came really close (closer than ever) last year at both meets. We'll see how it plays out tonight.
  13. Fridge_Break

    Fridge_Break #HotMessExpress

    Here's links to where the live stats will be posted for tonight's meets if anyone wishes to follow them as they go along! (Most of these links will take you to blank pages if you check them out before the meets begin)

    6:00pm EST - Penn State @ Michigan State, w/ West Virginia & Western Michigan
    7:30pm EST - Ohio State @ Missouri (live stats page isn't up yet, there will probably be a link on this site)
    8:00pm EST - Alabama @ Auburn
    8:00pm EST - Wisconsin-Stout @ Iowa State
    8:00pm EST - Maryland @ LSU
    10:00pm EST - Nebraska @ Washington
    10:00pm EST - Illinois @ Oregon State, w/ Alaska & Air Force

    As of right now there is no link for the Florida @ Oklahoma meet (8:00pm EST), but check out the UF homepage and the OU homepage later tonight for possible links.
  14. BigB08822

    BigB08822 Well-Known Member

    Going to the LSU meet in about an hour, it starts at 7 our time! Will try to remember as much as I can to share when I get back home. I always have a hard time at the first meets because I don't know the new girls and some change their skill sets and layouts of routines.
  15. redonthehead

    redonthehead Well-Known Member

    Bama beat Auburn 195.650 to 195.200. It was a good meet. I didn't understand our low scoring because the girls did really good for the most part. A few over-rotations on floor and we had one fall off the beam. They had 2 step out of bounds on floor, several over rotations,1 fall on beam,1 almost fall, and several balance checks. So, really confused but again it was a good meet and we never beat bama so it wasn't really disappointing.
  16. Jayar

    Jayar Well-Known Member

    Jay's cousin is on the Boise State team, and we are soooo excited to see her compete this season. WOOHOO!
  17. Fridge_Break

    Fridge_Break #HotMessExpress

    #24 Michigan State defeated #11 Penn State (by 0.025 :eek: ) and #21 West Virginia tonight! Bars and beam scored low across the board.. hit routines were getting a 9.6 or lower. Signs that it's the beginning of the season, I guess. MSU broke a 49.0 on the floor without their 3 biggest scorers on that event! Gotta be quite a confidence boost for the team right out of the gate (last season they counted 4 falls on the beam in the first meet of the season :yikes: )

    Gonna be an exciting season!
  18. Fridge_Break

    Fridge_Break #HotMessExpress

    Yesterday's results:
    Alabama 195.650 @ Auburn 195.200
    Ohio State 190.650 @ Missouri 194.725
    Penn State 193.900 @ Michigan State 193.925 w/ Western Virginia 191.225 & Western Michigan 189.525
    Wisconsin-Stout 173.675 @ Iowa State 193.300
    Maryland 190.625 @ LSU 194.375
    Florida 195.275 @ Oklahoma 196.250
    Nebraska 195.700 @ Washington 193.450
    Illinois 192.850 @ Oregon State 195.625 w/ Air Force 184.475 & Alaska 183.475

    Today's meets and live stats links:
    6pm EST - Iowa @ Michigan w/ Bowling Green, also free video
    7pm EST - Utah @ UCLA, also free video
    8pm - Arizona @ Arkansas

    Also today:
    1pm - New Hampshire @ Rutgers, check New Hampshire's official page for potential stats
    7pm - Denver @ Minnesota, check Denver or Minnesota's official pages for potential stats
    Last edited: Jan 9, 2010
  19. BigB08822

    BigB08822 Well-Known Member

    I went to the LSU/Maryland meet last night. Well, we left after the 2nd rotation because it was a real snooze of a meet, IMO. I don't blame the girls but this is the first time I've ever been to a season opener and it was just really REALLY obvious that this was the girls first meet out.

    I can't comment on beam or floor so I will stick to vault and bars.

    Vault: I have to wonder what LSUs game plan is with vault? They vaulted two girls with a Yurchenko laid out (9.8 start value). Lyons was one of them and I know she is capable of a full but coming back from her ankle injury they probably decided to play it safe and get a vault under her belt. The real question for me is Summer Hubbard. She has never vaulted, AFAIK, and I read on one of the LSU blogs that she is hoping to compete a 9.9 vault. That is not acceptable from a top 6 finishing team, all vaults must be out of a 10.000 so I have to wonder if she is just filling in for an injured athlete, if they think she will actually have a 10 vault within a few weeks, or do we just have zero depth in vault? I wont pretend it is easy but a Yurchenko full is a staple vault for these girls, I can't believe LSU doesn't have 6 girls who can do that vault. I know LSU lost one girl to a knee injury and she is probably out all season. Another girl is out because of some kind of NCAA rule, when she is given the go ahead to compete I heard she will be AA so hopefully she will vault.

    Bars: LSU looked good. Hubbard fell on her release but it is the first time out there this year, no big deal. Handstands weren't there yet but some of them were hit nicely. Dismounts looked good minus the one fall, I can't remember who fell now but it was on a double front, LSU has 3 girls doing that dismount. I was happy to see Rogers doing bars, she is really turning into a rock for LSU as a lead off gymnast. Her vault won the night with a stuck landing as LSU's first routine of the season. Hopefully a good omen.

    I have to admit, things do not look good for LSU after this year. Every year we have had a star or two on the team. I think all of the girls on the team are very good but none of them are capable of pulling in big scores across more than 1 or 2 events. Jackson can do it this year on all 4 events. Last year she and ACK could do it on all 4 events. Next year it will be like having a team of specialists and no one sticks out as extremely consistent. I don't mean to sound glum but LSU needs to do some key recruiting.

    ETA: I found this article which answers a LOT of my questions. Puts me at ease a bit but clearly depth is a problem but mid season we will get Ericka Garcia in action!

    Last edited: Jan 9, 2010
  20. Rob

    Rob Beach Bum

    Brian - what did you think of the MD team? Anyone to watch? We just don't hear much about them here in MD so I assume there is not much to talk about, but I'd be interested in your honest impressions. (I follow other Terp sports, but not gymn, so don't worry about honesty!)
  21. BigB08822

    BigB08822 Well-Known Member

    I thought MD looked really good for a team I knew nothing about and for the first meet of the season. Again, I only saw their bars and vault. There was one girl on the team who stood out for me on those two events, Abigail Adams.
  22. Rob

    Rob Beach Bum

    Thanks Brian. Maybe I will check out a meet this year.
  23. Fridge_Break

    Fridge_Break #HotMessExpress

    Here's the rankings after the first weekend of competition. They're pretty much meaningless since it's so early, but you can at least get a sense as to what events certain teams are capable of.

    Team Total:
    1 UCLA 196.600
    2 Oklahoma, U. of 196.250
    3 Nebraska, U. of 195.700
    4 Alabama, U. of 195.650
    5 Oregon State 195.625
    6 Denver, U. of 195.575
    7 Arkansas, U. of 195.400
    8 Florida, U. of 195.275
    9 Auburn Univ. 195.200
    10 Georgia, U. of 195.150
    11 Utah, U. of 195.125
    12 Stanford Univ. 195.050
    13 Michigan, U. of 194.875
    14 Kentucky, U. of 194.850
    15 Missouri, U. of 194.725
    16 L.S.U. 194.375
    17 Michigan State 193.925
    18 Penn State 193.900
    19 Washington, U. of 193.450
    20 Minnesota, U. of 193.375
    21 Iowa State 193.300
    22 Iowa, U. of 193.200
    23 Illinois-Champaign 192.850
    24 San Jose State 191.800
    25 West Virginia Univ. 191.225

    1 Florida, U. of 49.300
    2 UCLA 49.275
    3 Alabama, U. of 49.150
    4 Georgia, U. of 49.125
    - Stanford Univ. 49.125
    6 Nebraska, U. of 49.000
    7 Oklahoma, U. of 48.950
    8 Kentucky, U. of 48.925
    9 Penn State 48.900
    - Oregon State 48.900
    11 Michigan State 48.875
    12 Missouri, U. of 48.825
    13 Illinois-Champaign 48.800
    14 Auburn Univ. 48.775
    15 L.S.U. 48.725

    1 Oregon State 49.400
    2 Arkansas, U. of 49.200
    3 UCLA 49.175
    - Michigan, U. of 49.175
    - Oklahoma, U. of 49.175
    6 Denver, U. of 48.975
    7 Auburn Univ. 48.925
    8 Georgia, U. of 48.850
    - Utah, U. of 48.850
    10 Alabama, U. of 48.825
    11 Nebraska, U. of 48.750
    12 Iowa, U. of 48.725
    - Stanford Univ. 48.725
    - Missouri, U. of 48.725
    15 Kentucky, U. of 48.675

    1 Nebraska, U. of 49.050
    2 Oklahoma, U. of 49.025
    3 Denver, U. of 49.000
    4 Georgia, U. of 48.950
    5 Auburn Univ. 48.925
    - Alabama, U. of 48.925
    7 Arkansas, U. of 48.900
    - UCLA 48.900
    9 Florida, U. of 48.875
    10 Utah, U. of 48.775
    11 Minnesota, U. of 48.550
    12 Washington, U. of 48.475
    13 Missouri, U. of 48.450
    14 Iowa, U. of 48.425
    15 Oregon State 48.400

    1 UCLA 49.250
    2 Oklahoma, U. of 49.100
    3 Michigan State 49.050
    4 L.S.U. 48.975
    5 Florida, U. of 48.925
    - Arkansas, U. of 48.925
    - Oregon State 48.925
    - Stanford Univ. 48.925
    9 Nebraska, U. of 48.900
    - Utah, U. of 48.900
    - Denver, U. of 48.900
    12 West Virginia Univ. 48.875
    13 Kentucky, U. of 48.850
    - Washington, U. of 48.850
    15 Michigan, U. of 48.825
  24. BigB08822

    BigB08822 Well-Known Member

    As usual, LSU is best (not of all, but the best events for them) on vault and floor. I think they will do well on bars as well and that should keep them in the 5-10 range this year depending just how well they do.

    I have read on two separate occasions where the LSU staff has referred to Engle's bar routine as the best in the Nation. I really like Engle but her bar routine is the same as it has always been. Why is it suddenly the best? She does a Khorkina release and a double front dismount. Nothing else really stands out. Maybe she is throwing a 2nd release in practice to add in later in the season? For having the best bar routine, they only had her 2nd or 3rd in the bars lineup last week. She has a lot of consistency issues so maybe they are trying to give her a big confidence boost...
  25. avivadawn

    avivadawn Well-Known Member

    Going to be at the Boise State meet in Reno this weekend....expect reports. Maybe even live if there's WiFi at the venue and I can twitter on my Ipod Touch.....
  26. Karpenko

    Karpenko Not Impressed.

    So nice to see UCLA off to such a good start. They're due for another NCAA title, I think it'll happen in the next couple of years for them, if not this year (hopefully)! :cheer2:
  27. BigB08822

    BigB08822 Well-Known Member

    I agree, Karpenko, I think they are building a great team. :)
  28. Fridge_Break

    Fridge_Break #HotMessExpress

    Tonight's meets and live stats links:

    7:00 EST - Utah State @ Central Michigan, check CMU's homepage for possible stats
    7:00 EST - Rutgers at NC State
    7:00 EST - Temple @ Maryland, w/ Cornell & Bridgeport, check Maryland's homepage for possible stats
    7:00 EST - #7 Arkansas @ #8 Florida
    8:00 EST - #2 Oklahoma @ #9 Auburn
    8:00 EST - Southeast Missouri @ Illinois State, check Illinois State's homepage for possible stats
    8:00 EST - #17 Michigan State @ #22 Iowa, w/ Illinois-Chicago
    8:00 EST - #23 Illinois @ #3 Nebraska w/ #20 Minnesota
    8:30 EST - #10 Georgia @ #4 Alabama
    9:00 EST - Iowa State @ Utah, additionally free video!
    10:00 EST - Lady Luck Invitational - Arizona State, #14 Kentucky, #16 LSU, and #15 Missouri, check LSU's homepage for possible stats, additionally free audio
    10:00 EST - Flips Invitational - Boise State, Sacramento State, #24 San Jose State
    10:00 EST - #1 UCLA @ #19 Washington, additionally free video!
    10:00 EST - UC Davis @ Seattle Pacific, free video!
    11:00 EST - Towson @ Alaska, free video!
  29. BigB08822

    BigB08822 Well-Known Member

    The Lady Luck Invitational should be fun because it has 3 very closely ranked teams even if they are middle of the pack at the moment. I think LSU is the clear favorite but if they are still building people towards 10 SV vaults and such then any one of those teams, or all of them, can beat them. I hate when meets are out West, I don't want to wait that long! lol

    ETA: Found this very informative update from LSU: http://lsugymnastics.blogspot.com/

    Lyons has sprained her ankle again but it is not the one she has always had trouble with, out at least 3 weeks. E. Garcia looks cleared to compete beginning mid Feb. Big relief and not that late into the season at all, she should be comfortable come post season. I've heard good things about her and we need her, LSU's depth has never been like this with injuries and such.

    I'm trying to find out what they are talking about when they mention Maryland coaching staff having poor sportsmanship. I was at the meet last week but left after the 2nd rotation. Very curious about that one...

    Fridgebreak, if you want to add this link, it will have updates, there will be no live scoring. www.twitter.com/lsugym There will be live audio from the Geaux Zone which I believe is free but may require registering.
    Last edited: Jan 15, 2010
  30. BigB08822

    BigB08822 Well-Known Member

    Georgia lost to Bama, don't have exact scores but UGA had some issues.

    LSU scores 49.375 on vault at their meet! 9.9 for Lee (wasnt even originally in the vault line up) and Sabrina and a 9.95 for Jackson! Jackson usually doesn't go for sticks until well later in the season, she must be feeling confident, she is usually horrified of vault despite being so good. It is a great score but most importantly it is .550 higher than last week which puts them in good position to improve their team score/ranking.