So it’s going to be a “Dance Party” RD in 2024/25?

[Former Lurve Goddess]

The 2003 OD theme was basically “Dance Party from the 1700s/1800s.” If people liked that theme, why are so many melting down over the proposed themes? You just don’t like the eras?

If we get something along the lines of a contemporary equivalent to the DenStas 2003 OD, I'll be

 

[BlueRidge]

The 2003 OD theme was basically “Dance Party from the 1700s/1800s.” If people liked that theme, why are so many melting down over the proposed themes? You just don’t like the eras?

It wasn't. It was Waltz/Polka/March/Gallop. So provided specific dance rhythms that were required.

Dance Party 20th Century doesn't do that.

 

[sap5]

It wasn't. It was Waltz/Polka/March/Gallop. So provided specific dance rhythms that were required.

Dance Party 20th Century doesn't do that.

But isn’t the idea that dancers are to pick a dance rhythm that was done in the 20th century?

 

[BlueRidge]

But isn’t the idea that dancers are to pick a dance rhythm that was done in the 20th century?

How many of those are there?

We don't have any information at this point on how, or if, they are going to even constrain it that much.

 

[Former Lurve Goddess]

How many of those are there?

We don't have any information at this point on how, or if, they are going to even constrain it that much.

But isn’t the idea that dancers are to pick a dance rhythm that was done in the 20th century?

Charleston, jive, jitterbug, hip hop (which includes tons of styles), disco, ragtime, swing, rock and roll, vogueing, etc.

 

[BlueRidge]

Charleston, jive, jitterbug, hip hop (which includes tons of styles), disco, ragtime, swing, rock and roll, vogueing, etc.

Foxtrot, quickstep, on and on

I like all of these and am happy to see RDs using the rhythm and a pattern dance.

I'm not seeing how you get that out of 20th C dance party.

 

[Former Lurve Goddess]

Foxtrot, quickstep, on and on

I like all of these and am happy to see RDs using the rhythm and a pattern dance.

I'm not seeing how you get that out of 20th C dance party.

Well, if I were an ice dance choreographer, I'd just make "20th century dance party" mean what I wanted it to.

 

[BlueRidge]

Well, if I were an ice dance choreographer, I'd just make "20th century dance party" mean what I wanted it to.

And if I were an ice dance team, coaches, choreographers, skaters etc., I'd be trying to figure out what to make 20th Century Dance Party mean so that it gets the highest scores from the judges.

 

[sap5]

And if I were an ice dance team, coaches, choreographers, skaters etc., I'd be trying to figure out what to make 20th Century Dance Party mean so that it gets the highest scores from the judges.

Why not both? It is possible to do both.

 

[BlueRidge]

Why not both? It is possible to do both.

Yes the best teams do both.

Which has nothing to do with the question at hand which is whether 20th Century Dance Party is the same as, "whatever you decide as long as its dance-y"

 

[sap5]

Yes the best teams do both.

Which has nothing to do with the question at hand which is whether 20th Century Dance Party is the same as, "whatever you decide as long as its dance-y"

I see it as pick a dance rhythm from the 20th Century and follow the rules to get the maximum points.

 

[Former Lurve Goddess]

Yes the best teams do both.

Which has nothing to do with the question at hand which is whether 20th Century Dance Party is the same as, "whatever you decide as long as its dance-y"

In my "cardio dance party" classes, we dance to salsa, bachata, KPop, Bollywood music, hip hop, disco, etc.

 

[fan]

while i appreciate that the ISU is trying to bring in younger fans, it is obliterating the support from it's key fan base who has been supporting and attending competitions. ugh. bring back the waltz!

 

[Former Lurve Goddess]

while i appreciate that the ISU is trying to bring in younger fans, it is obliterating the support from it's key fan base who has been supporting and attending competitions. ugh. bring back the waltz!

The thing is I bet a lot of younger fans will totally get into a contemporary waltz RD.

 

[BlueRidge]

The thing is I bet a lot of younger fans will totally get into a contemporary waltz RD.

This is a 20th Century one but the point is waltz rhythm lives on! It doesn't mean everyone skating to Blue Danube and looking like Vienna circa 1889 (not that there's anything wrong with that!)

Isabella CANNUSCIO & Ian LORELLO

2010 Cup of China Ice Dance Short Dance

youtu.be

 

[Frau Muller]

OK, I hope that the ISU encourages spectators/fans to dress for Dance Parties!

“Best fan outfit” trophy at each competition! Even I may fly in for this.

This may be the saving grace.

 

[Willin]

Bring back the compulsory dance for us nerds and turn the OD into a competition for who can go the most viral.

 

[Nmsis]

The thing is I bet a lot of younger fans will totally get into a contemporary waltz RD.

The problem is not the fans or even the technical committee.

It's about defining what is the heart of ice dance.

Regularly, the technical committee, the judges (and sometimes the fans) act like they are the guardians of the temple of ice dance.
Sometimes to a such a degree than anything unusual is subject to rejection.
And the word "different" becomes a polite insult (I read that once and dismissed it, but I've seen it enough time to get that there is a real weight to that word in ice dance)
That's what the coaches are running away from. And if being "different" is an insult, everyone is just trying to be "more of the same".
To the point of stalling and losing relevance.

That the technical committee tries to open the windows of ice dance is a healthy reaction.
But they need to not lose the staples of their discipline.
They need to frame a corridor of research precise enough to guide and secure the coaches AND to prepare the judges to have different sets of expectations, to modernize ice dance while keeping its core safe.

 

[Frau Muller]

I just saw the 2023 Japanese movie, Perfect Days. The full soundtrack of 1960s and 70s hits could be used in next season’s “Dance Party”!

Perfect Days Soundtrack (2023) | List of Songs | WhatSong

Listen to all 16 songs from the Perfect Days soundtrack, playlist, ost and score.

www.what-song.com

Kaori’s Nina Simone version of Feelin’ Good is included.

 

[Frau Muller]

Great ideas for anyone trying a 1960s dance party!

I just rewatched the fabulous 1965 Euros exhibition film on YouTube & was blasted away by the fashions and musical styles of, especially, the dancers. Wouldn’t it be cool to see a bit of echoing of the mid-60s style in dancing, such as:

Beehive style women’s hair…and short cuts for men

The 60s fashions for dance: short skirted and long-sleeved women’s dresses & tuxes for guys

A lot of fake-Latin (made for Americans & Euros) dances, such as Tico-Tico, Let’s Limbo Tonight, Cumbachero, etc.

I want to see a lot of Herb Alpert & the Tijuana Brass…in the above hair styles and fashions. Whee!

And at least one French team must give us a quick footed Dominique-Nike-Nike as we saw from the French team at 1965 Euros.

I’m getting pumped for the 60s party!

 

[Jayar]

@Frau Muller I have honestly been trying to get anyone to skate to Tijuana Taxi as a SP for years to no avail.

 

[Simone411]

Why not make the RD theme NUDE dance party? And all of the music must come from the soundtracks to The Full Monty and Calendar Girls!

Why not make them all dance to B-52s music.

Dance This Mess Around

Provided to YouTube by RepriseDance This Mess Around · The B-52'sThe B-52'sâ 1979 Warner Records Inc.Assistant Engineer: Cass RigbyProducer: Chris Blackwell...

www.youtube.com

The B-52's - Cake

The B-52's - Cake - Mesopotamia(1983)

www.youtube.com

Give Me Back My Man (Party Mix Version)

Provided to YouTube by Warner RecordsGive Me Back My Man (Party Mix Version) · The B-52'sParty Mix / Mesopotamiaâ 1991 Warner Records Inc.Unknown: Benjamin A...

www.youtube.com

 

[Frau Muller]

@Frau Muller I have honestly been trying to get anyone to skate to Tijuana Taxi as a SP for years to no avail.

Honestly, it would be a bit hilarious, which was part of the bite in 60s free skates…looking very preppy & proper in the old fashioned dresses, tuxes and bouffant dos, and moving to modern Latin beats. I can see Piper in a beehive do, shaking to Tijuana Taxi. Just look at the mid-60s films of dance to see what I mean.

I’d love to see the shorter Czech team (the Taschlers) do a subtle take on their countrymen, the Romans, such as:

Eva a Pavel Romanovi 1962 Praha volny tanec

Golden Champions Eva and Paul Romanovi from Czechoslovakia 1962 in Prague on World Championship

www.youtube.com

More difficult of course…but with hints.

What I don’t want to see is everyone skating to Beatles, wearing jeans or black pleather grunge, looking as if they’re in some protest or Love In, if they’re tackling the 60s.

p.s. Imagine Oona Brown in a beehive and proper short dress, with Gage in a tuxedo and shorter looking (slicked back?) hair!

 

[Aussie Willy]

The thing is I bet a lot of younger fans will totally get into a contemporary waltz RD.

As long as it is only Iris by the Goo Goo Dolls

 

[Sylvia]

The 2024-25 Rhythm Dance (Senior & Junior) announcement was published today by the ISU and is being discussed in the Dance Hall thread: https://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/th...on-tea-dance-party.111699/page-5#post-6593354

 

[crzesk8dad]

@Frau Muller I have honestly been trying to get anyone to skate to Tijuana Taxi as a SP for years to no avail.

I would hate to see the dance move used when the "taxi horn" is honked....

I'm looking forward to "Rock Around the Clock/The Twist/Disco Inferno" medley.

 

[Jayar]

I would hate to see the dance move used when the "taxi horn" is honked....

I'm looking forward to "Rock Around the Clock/The Twist/Disco Inferno" medley.

Lol. I tried to get your skater to take it on. He took a hard pass.

 

[Nmsis]

And at least one French team must give us a quick footed Dominique-Nike-Nike as we saw from the French team at 1965 Euros.

Not going to happen :

• because french people don't know that song, even fans of the 60s ; I've only ever seen it in american tv shows.
• thanks to the evolution of language and the apparition of the french vulgar verb "niquer", "Dominique-nique-nique" nowadays sounds like "Dominique f*cks f*cks", which would cause the hillarity of any french people below 70yo listening to it, let alone ice dancers in their 20s.