Alexei Mishin's 75th anniversary - an interview

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The legendary figure skating coach Alexei Mishin turns 75 on March 8. He dedicated 60 years of his life to the sport and coached many Olympic champions contributing to Russia’s glory.
He celebrates his anniversary at his home rink, where he became Soviet champion in 1969, having placed ahead of the widely recognized leaders of the time. But everything could have turned out differently.

"I was born in 1941, so my childhood was spent in difficult postwar period. My father was in the military, he taught theoretical mechanics, and wanted his children to be on friendly terms with technology. I became interested in electronics, graduated from the LETI (Leningrad Electro-Technical Institute), wanted to become an engineer. My destiny was changed by a pair of ice skates and a flowerbed. My sister once bought me detachable ice skates with her stipend money. And my father once happened to be walking past the City Palace of Pioneers and saw children skating around a large flowerbed. That’s how I got into figure skating. I was 15 at the time."

Q: You are a veteran of the national sport. It is a known fact that in the olden days, there was a very strict discipline in national teams. Is it the same today?
A: The situation in any sport is a reflection of the state of the economy, society situation. The Soviet era was a time of authoritative rulership, and the same model was applied in sports. And how else could it be when athletes’ salary and the whole equipment were paid by the government, and everything depended on a coach? Today, the teacher-student relationship has completely changed. It’s a tandem of independent people, both of whom are equal partners doing their important work.
Frankly, I never supported the tradition of locking up hockey players at the training base, for example, and isolating them from their families. It isn’t right to make the sport function in a camp mode. And it never occurred to me to babysit my pupils, even though I have no tolerance for drinking and smoking. And even my former students abstain from drinking and cigarettes at banquets in my presence.

Q: But your methods of training are also very strict. You train beginners together with the leaders, and it builds competition, pressure...
A: The medal is not going to hang itself on your neck. I am convinced that nothing motivates an athlete more than the progress of his rival. Team is necessary! A leader will always emerge and accumulate all the strengths and rise. And when you work with young athletes, you have to treat them like future Olympic team candidates, champions, not like children! After all, figure skaters train almost like cosmonauts.
By the way, this approach was met with resistance for a long time. Figure skating officials told me: ‘Why do you waste your time working with children? You have Urmanov, the Olympic champion – work with him!’ I have coached Yagudin, Plushenko, and once again heard: ‘Work with the champions, beginners can wait!’ If I listened to them, my career as a coach would end with Urmanov.

Q: You had to fight not only for your coaching methods, but also for the very opportunity to coach. For a long time, in the 80s, you were not allowed to travel abroad. You are not allowed on TV, your books weren’t published...
A: Now I am grateful for those difficult times. If I did not get ‘tempered’ then, I probably would not be so successful now. Although I was not very philosophical at that time. Imagine: my students went to European Championships, World Championships, and I talked to them on the phone...
I had written a book, "Figure skating for everyone." An advance copy was ready! And when I came to "Lenizdat", and asked them when the book was going to be printed, they shrugged: ‘What book? We cut it a long time ago, left only the color inserts on coated paper…’ The situation has changed only after the perestroika. I started travelling abroad with my skaters, absorbing the best from the Western schools. Thus were prepared the masters of figure skating who form the core of St. Petersburg and the Russian skating today.

Q: By the way, the majority of figure skating stars and coaches went abroad in the 90s, including the famous Rodnina, Tarasova. You didn’t. Why?
A: The reasons are complex. When the country fell, figure skating costs skyrocketed. Coaches left, what else could they do? They were either unemployed or could not live in the conditions they deserved. Rodnina moved only temporarily, while Mila and Oleg (the Olympic champions Lyudmila Belousova and Oleg Protopopov) left the country forever.
But there are not only practical reasons, there are also personal. For example, I never left, even though I got invitations to many countries, and I'm still getting them. My students have the same attitude.
I would like to point out that very few Russian coaches are training champions abroad. There is a different atmosphere. When a specialist comes to America, he starts giving lessons to pay the rent, to pay for gas, groceries, his children's education. There is no time or energy left for working on the highest level. And it affects the results.

Q: The officials say that today, despite the crisis, large sums of money are invested in the preparation of athletes. Is it true? If we compare it with the money invested in "Zenith" (football club), for example, which is also one of the flagships of St. Petersburg?
A: Skaters and their coaches, unlike hockey and football players, are not spoiled. We are used to training in minimally comfortable conditions. Often we used to pay our own money for the training camps, choreographers and other specialists. I have worked with foreign elite skaters so that my students could train for free. After all, most of our top skaters are from provincial cities, often from single-parent and not very wealthy families.
I remember how the mother of the Olympic champion Alexei Urmanov went with us to Italy as a cook. We could not afford to eat out, and she cooked us wonderful borsch and roasts. So I would say now there is enough funding at a state level. Moreover, in the current situation, it is simply indecent to demand extra funding.
As for the blue-white-blues, if I ever met Alexei Miller, I would ask him to add a small pipe to the large one that feeds "Zenith" to our school of figure skating. But joking aside, if you compare the achievements of our students who won many awards for our country, and those of football players – there is clearly a discrepancy. Sport is our job, and we have to do it well.

Q: It seems that there are very good conditions for that in our city. Nevertheless, in recent years, there were several well-known figure skaters, including Sochi silver medalists Ksenia Stolbova / Fedor Klimov, who moved to Moscow. Is Saint Petersburg’s school losing its ground?
A: These are rare occasions. On the contrary, there are many who come from all over the country to our school at the "Yubileyny" ice rink, and we are grateful to the regions providing us with talents. In addition, all the natural phenomena are 'oscillating' in character. At the time, Arthur Gachinsky moved from Moscow to St. Petersburg, and has achieved considerable success. Today, on the contrary, there is a strong team working with pairs in the capital city, and some skaters have moved there. It's a natural drift. It reminds me of family life, marriages, divorces, it always has been, it always will be.

Q: You dedicated your whole life to figure skating, your wife, Tatiana Nikolaevna, works with you as well. Your sons are also involved in sports. Do you have time for anything else?
A: I try to make time. I love the country and I built my first country house myself. I am also an avid mushroom hunter, fisherman and cook. I love standing at the stove, reading cookbooks, cooking. I’m also a seasoned gardener. There is a certain drive in growing a good crop, putting on the table your own tomatoes and cucumbers. We also have two dogs, Tibetan mastiff, they require serious training. I am happy to have a support of my family. And of course, the greatest pleasure is to hold my grandson, Alexei Mishin Jr., who is twenty months old.

Q: Your skating school “Zvezdny Led” opened in 2014. However, it’s been already two years, and it is still based at the old ice rink. When will the new facility be opened?
A: The idea is almost twenty-five years old. (Former St. Petersburg governor) told me: ‘You are more than a professor; you are an academician of figure skating. I will build you a palace.’ Other governors have said the same. But now, finally, there is some movement, and I hope that the center in Krasnogvardeyskiy district will be working in full force soon. And I really wish to work at my hometown, where more than one generation of champions has grown, where there are many talented young skaters. So for me the greatest gift is to celebrate a new day at my very own “Yubileyny.”
 
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I swear, every time I read an interview with Mishin, I learn something new. I had no idea he went through a time where he was not allowed to even leave the country to coach! He speaks so wonderfully, so sensibly.

Happy birthday to the Professor of skating!
 
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Mishin:respec:

He's just so great! When I first saw him on TV I thought he appeared a little bit strict and scary (mid 90ies), but then I met him in person at championships, and he is just such a nice and funny man, joking around, posing for photos with crazy lobby chicks and of course, having so many great students. He's the Frank Carroll of Russia. (Of course, Urmanov was my first skating love, and his technique is still among the best that has ever been in sport.) (Now Urmanov is hopefully coaching Lip to new hights. The legacy lives on)

Happy birthday!
 

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Mishin:respec:

He's just so great! When I first saw him on TV I thought he appeared a little bit strict and scary (mid 90ies), but then I met him in person at championships, and he is just such a nice and funny man, joking around, posing for photos with crazy lobby chicks and of course, having so many great students. He's the Frank Carroll of Russia. (Of course, Urmanov was my first skating love, and his technique is still among the best that has ever been in sport.) (Now Urmanov is hopefully coaching Lip to new hights. The legacy lives on)

Happy birthday!

Alexei Urmanov's 1994 Olympic LP is still my favourite men's performance ever. He was so beautiful!!!
 

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What a fascinating person! I respect him more every time I read his interviews. Thanks for posting.

Happy 75th Birthday, Alexei Mishin!
 

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It's interesting that he has no bitterness about the tough times. He says (paraphrasing) it made him stronger. He is definitely a 'glass is half full' person.
 

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Mishin:respec:

He's the Frank Carroll of Russia.

I share the Mishin love, but don't see the comparison to Carroll. Carroll strikes me as rather quiet, uptight and conservative, and comes across as such in the interviews I've read. In contrast, I find Mishin animated and expressive, and think he's got quite a good sense of humour.

(Of course, Urmanov was my first skating love, and his technique is still among the best that has ever been in sport.)

Mine too, and his 1994 Olympic FS is still my favourite men's program of all time. Skating aside, he was so beautiful, and so dashing in that ruffled shirt.

I just wish he'd coach some higher lever skaters, so we could see him more often in the KnC.

Loved the bit about Alexei's mom coming along to cook for the team in Italy. I recall a puff piece on Urmanov that showed his mom to play a major part of his career.
 
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Carroll strikes me as rather quiet, uptight and conservative, and comes across as such in the interviews I've read. In contrast, I find Mishin animated and expressive, and think he's got quite a good sense of humour.
During Skate America registration when it was in Everett, either his or the person he was waiting for's credentials were stuck -- the camera was being quirky -- and he chatted with us for about five minutes. He was sharp, funny, and engaging and had a sly, self-deprecating sense of humor.
 

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I share the Mishin love, but don't seem the comparison to Carroll. Carroll strikes me as rather quiet, uptight and conservative, and comes across as such in the interviews I've read. In contrast, I find Mishin animated and expressive, and think he's got quite a good sense of humour.



Mine too, and his 1994 Olympic FS is still my favourite men's program of all time. Skating aside, he was so beautiful, and so dashing in that ruffled shirt.

I just wish he'd coach some higher lever skaters, so we could see him more often in the KnC.

Loved the bit about Alexei's mom coming along to cook for the team in Italy. I recall a puff piece on Urmanov that showed his mom to play a major part of his career.

Did a skater ever look more gorgeous than Alexei did in that ruffled shirt? He looked like a movie star
 

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I share the Mishin love, but don't see the comparison to Carroll. Carroll strikes me as rather quiet, uptight and conservative, and comes across as such in the interviews I've read. In contrast, I find Mishin animated and expressive, and think he's got quite a good sense of humour.

I think the poster may have meant the track record of success over a long period.

In any case, Mishin is Mishin and Carroll is Carroll, each with his own personality and ways to teach. They both are legendary coaches. I like Mishin more, based on what I have been reading in his interviews. I know virtually nothing about Frank, outside of his skating and coaching successes.
 
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I think the poster may have meant the track record of success over a long period.

In any case, Mishin is Mishin and Carroll is Carroll, each with his own personality and ways to teach. They both are legendary coaches. I like Mishin more, based on what I have been reading in his interviews. I know virtually nothing about Frank, outside of his skating and coaching successes.

Thanks Vash01, that's what I meant:) Both Carroll and Mishin have been around a very long time, coaching more than one generation of skaters, and have being skaters themselves, they carry the legacy from way back, when the sport was being shaped into it's modern form. They are the grand old men of figure skating, togheter with a few others. (John Nicks comes to mind, wish Carlo Fassi was still with us!)
 

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Touching... Plushenko was interviewed yesterday. ( google translate)

Plushenko: Mishin - "a master of figure skating, ice master and magician":
http://tass.ru/sport/2722968

PETERSBURG, March 8. /Specialist. corr. TASS Ekaterina Muhlynina /. Alexei Mishin, who on Tuesday marks the 75th anniversary is a great master of figure skating. The journalists said the two-time Olympic figure skating champion Yevgeny Plushenko.

Mishin - Honored Master of Sports, Honored Coach of the USSR, Honored Worker of Physical Culture of the Russian Federation. In the ranks of his pupils include Olympic champions Evgeny Plushenko, Alexei Yagudin, Alexei Urmanov. Currently Mishin coaches world champion and Europe Yelizaveta Tuktamysheva, who became the winner of the final Grand Prix of the season 2014/15 and bronze medalist of the final Grand Prix of the 2014 Junior Alexander Petrov.

On Tuesday in the Palace of Sports "Jubilee" in St. Petersburg will celebrate the anniversary of Mishina.

"I could not miss the anniversary of my second father, my coach, with whom we have worked together for 21 years - said Plushenko -. I was destined that I fell into the hands of Alexei Mishin in the 11 years I have come to St. Petersburg Time passed quickly.. , passed a lot of competition. However, Alexei Nikolayevich, we passed four Olympic Games. "

According to Plushenko, going hand in hand with Mishin, he never tired of speaking. "I've always been interested in working with Mishin, each exercise was new - added skater -. Many people have asked me if I was tired to skate That's it, that together with Alexei Nikolaevich, I never get tired because every time it was a new way. . It's a great man, a great master of figure skating, ice master and magician. "

Alexei Mishin, coach of Olympic champion Plushenko, marks its 75th anniversary:
http://tass.ru/sport/2722581
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"I want to congratulate my great trainer, unique, amazing person with an anniversary! - He told Tass Plushenko -. First of all I want to wish him strong health And I sincerely wish him to raise more than one Olympic champion He has a great team, which engaged in.. .. beautiful children in the long term they are capable of the highest achievements I am absolutely sure After Mishin -. a unique specialist it is in constant creative search, he -. creator with him interesting to work - constantly comes up with something new and that is why I am! I think that I was lucky in life. Alexei Nikolaevich, God forbid you to be healthy. And be happy. "
 

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Honored Russian coach Alexei Mishin celebrates his 75th anniversary on March 8th. We offered the Professor a kind of quiz – to guess which of the people he worked with is the author of which quote. We showed him only a part of each quote to make the game harder and more interesting.

1. "First of all, I really appreciate his attitude to his athletes. He is always delicate and sympathetic with us, and it is extremely important for team work. Also very important is his full commitment to the creative process. Looking at Alexei Nikolaevich makes you want to move mountains! He is so energizing! He is very patient, kind and understanding. These are probably the most important qualities for me in a person.
I would like to wish him to stay in good health. And knowing how he loves his grandson, I want the stork to bring him a couple more. And for him to see his great-grandchildren growing up! "

Mishin’s answer (correct): This is Liza Tuktamysheva. The best (female) single skater I ever worked with. I admit, at first I did not want to take her into my group: Liza was a little rough around the edges as a child. But the height of her jumps prompted me to change myoriginal decision. I reasoned: she will jump well, and we will teach her the rest. But the reality was much better: Liza turned to be very musically and motorically gifted. And she is very hard working.

2. "Lyosha Mishin was a great partner. Caring, friendly, smart, well-educated. He was very delicate with me as a partner. And he listened to the coach. He never raised his voice at me and always was attentive to all my whims. Igor Borisovich and he conspired together: ‘Let her do whatever she comes up with, she will fall couple of times, and then she will recognize her mistake and will listen to us...’
We skated together for four years. It was a very friendly, good-spirited team of adults who knew why they had come to the practice and what they wanted to achieve... and we communicated well off-ice, discussing various topics, including scientific. I already graduated from the institute by then, and he was getting his second degree... We had many things between us that we could discuss.
If we talk about Lyosha as a coach – he is very tenacious, in terms of creating new approaches, applying new scientific findings in sports, very resourceful in terms of planning training strategies, tactics of preparing his students... In terms of searching and finding new methods of communication, new techniques. And he is very clever in his attitude to success and failure in life.
Leaving aside his professional achievements, Alexei Nikolaevich is a person of great integrity. He has wife, two children, several grandchildren. Many of the skaters he coached have in turn become good coaches. It suggests that besides teaching them to skate and preparing for competitions, he instilled in them the love for skating. And it is great.
I wish Alexei Nikolayevich that his memory stays as good as it is now, so he does not forget to invite the same number of friends, acquaintances, admirers when he celebrates his future achievements and anniversaries."

Mishin’s answer (correct): Tamara Moskvina, my wonderful partner. I was very lucky with her. First of all, at that time, she was the best single (female) skater in the Soviet Union. And besides, she is a very intelligent person with analytical mind. We were an interesting team. Skating by today's rules, we would probably win more, because we had better jumps than the rest of our competitors. We were, generally speaking, the first team consisting of advanced single skaters. Today, it became a trend.
The most valuable of our medals is the gold of the 1969 USSR championship. In Leningrad, at our home rink in “Yubileyny” ice palace, we placed ahead not only Rodnina and Ulanov, but the figure skating geniuses Belousova and Protopopov.

3. "I was fortunate enough to learn the basics of figure skating competing with the athletes who were coached by Alexei Nikolaevich. For example, with Vitaly Egorov, who was a member of the USSR national team. I only managed to win once, however. It happened after he became the world junior champion...
Our life paths crossed in the later years, too. I started my career under his supervision at the Department of speed skating of Lesgaft’s Institute of Physical Culture and Sports. What kind of teacher was Mishin? A good one. Knowledgeable, fair. I can say that working alongside him, competing with him, and later working together with him helped me to achieve a lot in life.
I wish Alexei Nikolayevich with all my heart health and energy, new successes and opportunities to pass his knowledge and traditions to good people."

Mishin’s answer (incorrect): This is the most difficult one, it is probably not incorrect, but I think it might be Leonid Kaznakov, very talented athlete who never fully realized his potential. At that time, skaters had very few opportunities to prove themselves internationally, unlike now. If you did not finish in the top at the USSR championship, your season effectively was over. Leonid won medals twice, but it happened when the leaders skipped the national championships. And Kaznakov missed European Championships by just one place... However, it is probably the wrong answer. Because Kaznakov trained with me, rather than competing with my athletes.

(Correct answer: Igor Bich, chairman of the board of judges of the Figure Skating Federation of St. Petersburg, the ISU technical specialist, colleague of Alexei Mishin)

4. "First of all, it is a great luck for me, a true gift of fate to work with such a great coach and a wonderful person. He gave me very, very much, both in sports and in life.
It is always interesting to work with Alexei Nikolayevich, because he always comes up with something new – training, exercises... I always liked and still like the way he prepares me for competitions – it's a very difficult and intricate art of coaching. Another important and quite rare ability is to see the whole picture, to assess the situation correctly. And another one is to react to changing situation accurately and in time. After all, figure skating is also a tactic.
For how many years we’ve been together? 22 years! And I don’t know any other "coach-athlete" duo that worked together for so long. We never had any fights or disagreements. We always stood shoulder to shoulder both in life and in sport. Alexey Nikolaevich is a great coach, but above all, he is a great person.
He now has a group of excellent young athletes, and I wish him to raise many more World and Olympic champions. And most importantly, I wish him strong health. Alexey Nikolaevich is constantly in creative search, he is a coach-Creator. And I am happy that he now has a school of figure skating, which took him and Tamara Nikolaevna Moskvina so long to establish."

Mishin’s answer (correct): Zhenya Plushenko. Coach’s happiness is to work with such a unique athlete and person. There was nothing impossible on ice for him. And I was able to realize completely unimaginable, incredible at that time ideas with hom. Zhenya has always been (and still is) a very grateful pupil. And I really appreciate one of his qualities, which is very rare in athletes. He never blamed anyone for his – very infrequent – mistakes and failures. Neither me, nor his choreographers, family... Although this is human nature, to try and find the causes of your failure in others rather than yourself.

5. "I congratulate my favorite coach on his anniversary, and I wish him, first of all, good health. Everything else he already has. He has talent and success, and a good life (I am referring to his family), and so much more. And I am very grateful to my coach for everything he has done for me in my life. Not only in terms of sports, but also in everyday life.
It was harder for him to work with me than it was for me to work with him. I can be very difficult when I am not in the mood. The emotional tension was sometimes over the top. But when everything went well, it was probably a pleasure to coach me. And in the end, Alexei Nikolaevich had enough patience to train me properly.
For me, working with Mishin was easy and great. Although, of course, sometimes I was angry, did not agree with him, I thought that something had to be done in a different way. I was stubborn, did it as I saw fit. At the same time, I never thought that Mishin was not my people, not my coach, never felt the need to go somewhere else.
Life has shown that everything worked out in the best way possible both for me and for him. I helped him to reach some conclusions in terms of figure skating (the Professor was wrining his doctoral thesis then), and he has helped me become the person I have become."

Mishin’s answer (correct): Lyosha Urmanov. Perhaps the most underrated of my most decorated pupils. I'm very sorry that he never become truly famous. Although, if you look closely, he was the first Russian Olympic champion in men's figure skating. Legendary Nikolai Panin-Kolomenkin won his Olympic gold in a different discipline- special figures event.
Urmanov is not alone in this. I would add, for example, Artur Dmitriev (his achievements in sports, in my opinion, will not be repeated ever). They were a bit unlucky with the era. At that time, in the 1990s, stars of figure skating were not as valued as they are now.

Summary: Alexei Nikolaevich identified with confidence the authors of almost all the quotes. And he won this game with a 4: 1 score, which is quite symbolic, considering that maestro Mishin was born in 1941.
 

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