Adam Rippon Has "It"

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  1. museksk8r

    museksk8r Holding an edge and looking dangerously sexy

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    Apparently the Skate Canada judges don't think Rippon has "IT" in comparison to Chan. Guess Patrick exists on his own skating planet somewhere. :rolleyes::shuffle:

    The judging of the mens' event in Canada appeared far too generous. I would like to see the Skate Canada men judged by the much stricter NHK judging panel. I definitely feel we would have seen some skaters score 10-15 points less than what they received in Kingston, Ontario.
     
  2. orbitz

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    I don't think Rippon has "IT". To me, he's the Mark Mitchell of this Olympic cycle: jumps and spins are executed cleanly but generally no wow factor to them with the possible exception of The PON (to quote Terry Gannon, lol). The commentators also agreed: Adam got the job done but the overall performance was only ok.
     
  3. museksk8r

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    I agree, though I do like him and his skating for what it is. My thing is I don't think Patrick has "IT" either contrary to popular belief. He is WAY overrated to me! Yes, his skating skills are exceptional, but his jumps are generally poorly landed, his spins are nothing spectacular, and his skating majorly lacks sparkling, engaging personality. You'd think by the scores he receives that he is the cleanest, most consistent, most awesome competitor on the planet, but then you watch him and it's splat after splat after splat. :yikes: I remember feeling shocked reading that someone commented that he's a better performer than Stephane Lambiel. That opinion is just utterly mindblowing to me. :eek:
     
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  4. Sylvia

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  5. shine

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    I just don't get Rippon. Everything is nice and pretty but just feels so vanilla. I found Kevin Reynolds more exciting to watch at SC :lol:
     
  6. Hirschel

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    This is something similar to what happened at 2010 Canadian Nationals. Chan is the easily the most over scored figure skater in competition today.
     
  7. briancoogaert

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    It depends on what you like in Figure SKating. But honestly, Adam skates and Kevin doesn't (he is more of a gymnast !).
    Adam Rippon seems adorable and his sating is such a beauty. The only thing is that I find it a bit small (I dunno, lack of speed, lack of amplitude...)
    Anyway, if he is the next big thing, Figure skating has a great future !
     
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  8. floskate

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    This! Well, mostly :lol: I don't find his skating small and amplitude is something he doesn't lack either. He didn't skate as fast as he can at Skate Canada - the crash? Narrower rink? He's by no means the fastest, but I've never thought of him as slow other than into his triple axel which he still stalks a little.

    Thanks for the link to his exhibition Sylvia. What absolutely beautiful skating. :swoon: You can see a little of John Curry in this I think. In his Skating magazine interview he talks about John's influence on his skating. Oh and he has the best landing positions of any of the current men IMO. So beautiful :)
     
  9. ks777

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    I guess it depends on what you like and where you are from. If you are from Canada, you are more likeky to enjoy Kevin Reynolds more than Rippon.

    I don't really find either one exciting. I don't like Shawn Swayer either. I like Kozuka and Abott's skating.
     
  10. aftershocks

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    Thanks Sylvia, for posting that link to Adam’s exhibition. I’m glad he’s found a great coach with whom he seems to have developed a wonderful coach/ skater relationship that is paying dividends in his skating. Adam’s still young and still developing, but I see a clear focus, conviction, purpose, and a distinct sense of joy emanating from his skating. I suppose the purity, clean lines and classical expressiveness of Adam’s approach are reminiscent of John Curry, but for me, Adam like many in the men’s field today, IMO, have also been influenced by Johnny Weir’s smooth, lyrical movement qualities, 3axel technique, beautiful posture on jump landings, and graceful, expressive arm movements. Being influenced and inspired is fine, but it’s those skaters that bring their own unique style, personality and innovativeness to meld with other influences who are the most exciting skaters to watch -- and Adam, IMO, is such a skater.

    I had to laugh at Tracy Wilson’s shout out to Adam right after his exhibition performance. Tracy’s tone of voice for me is a bit off-putting, but she’s okay as a commentator, and she was an enjoyable ice dancer to watch in years back. Wonder if her effusive compliment was a bit embarrassing for Adam – likely not I suppose, as he surely sees Tracy all the time at The Cricket Club (does she coach or choreograph there, and/or have a business partnership with Brian Orser?) As I think about it, perhaps Tracy, in part, was trying to make up for the criticisms by some Canadian commentators of Adam during a practice session that was recently posted on youtube.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqBl4wWP5YI

    These Canadian commentators (don’t know who they all are) did say a few complimentary things about Adam as well, but it was obvious they were in a mood to nitpick. Especially that commentator named Debbie ? (can’t remember her last name). I believe she interviewed some skaters post-skate in the arena. When one of the male commentators started out by saying, “…the greatest threat to Canadian skating may be Brian Orser coaching skaters from other countries…” Well, I guess that says it all.

    Doesn’t seem like these commentators or the Skate Canada judges for that matter, see any flaws in Patrick Chan’s skating. Perhaps some of Patrick’s challenges have to do with too much too soon? I’m hopeful that for Adam, slow and steady will win the race.
     
  11. Judy

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    This is the first year I've really noticed him but yes I would say he is a rising star. He was great to watch :)
     
  12. The Accordion

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    That may be true for some - but certainly not for many of us.

    I am Canadian and I love love Rippon, Reynolds is not my fave but he is growing on me, would love for Sawyer to get past his roadblocks because I very much enjoy his skating. I also enjoy Kozuka and Abbott quite a bit.

    Vaughn Chipeur - not my fave.

    Takahashi is my favourite eligible male skater right now.
     
  13. Anita18

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    A little? He stalks that axel as if his life depended on it! :lol:

    Beyond that, Adam is a very lovely skater but I still think he skates very "young teenage prodigy" to me. Which totally isn't his fault - he IS still very young for men's singles! His taste in choreography, programs, music, and costumes are already very refined so I can't wait to see what he'll come up with when he matures beyond looking like a teenager. :)
     
  14. aftershocks

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    Prodigy, yes, but I don't think Adam skates all that "young teenage" as you seem to emphasize. Perhaps it's Adam's sweet, angelic face that makes you think of him as being such a "young teenager." As far as skating young, I don't think Adam comes off as skating "juniorish." It takes some young male skaters a long time to develop the level of maturity, refinement, and artistic expression, that IMO, Adam already possesses (albeit budding -- still developing).
     
  15. Jaana

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    Actually there are (and have been) lots and lots of skaters who have gotten really big attention from Japanese fans, not just Weir.:lol:

    Adam RipponĀ“s skating is very enjoyable to watch, but I would not declare him as a new star, at least not yet.
     
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  16. Artifice

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    I found rippon really boring at SC artistically speaking.
     
  17. sk9tingfan

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    I was really impressed with the improvements that Reynolds has made since Four Continents and while I thought I saw the same skater during his SP, his improvements were most evident during the LP and even more so during his exhibition.
     
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    Like who? I want to know!
     
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    Does anyone have a link to Adam skating to something that is not light and full of violins? Maybe some hard rock?
     
  20. Anita18

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    I think it's his delicate build too. He comes off as a high schooler instead of college-age. His movements are also very earnest. It's not earnest like a junior is super! earnest!, but it still reads young to me.
     
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    To each their own.
    I'm going to enjoy watching the programs/skating of both Abbott and Rippon this season.

    They have different styles; and coaches who can help them develop their strengths to the maximum.
    I think that it's a great time to be a "fan" of the discipline.
     
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    E.g. Candeloro, Kulik, Urmanov and Yagudin used to be extremely popular in Japan. These days Plushenko & many of his competitors (Lambiel, Joubert, etc.), I would say...
     
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    Posted by Lynn Rutherford on Twitter as to what will probably happen in Portland at SA

    LynnRutherford ARippon teleconf: Says he's fine for Skate America; no after effects from practice collision last wk, exc. for black eye and stiff shoulder.

    Uncertain about doing 4T in Portland; will see how it goes. Hopes to do at nationals. Will work to get all L4 spins. IN article to follow.
    about 1 hour ago via web
     
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  26. museksk8r

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    Yes, skating-wise, I much prefer Jeremy and Adam over Evan and Johnny any day!
     
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    I had the good fortune of seeing Adam's exhibition, not only at the Gala, but at the morning practice. I love the music to "Cinema Paradiso"..have since I heard it as background music to a Kwan retrospective post-98 Olympics..There is a poignancy and a delicacy to the music (IMO)..which along with Adam's sensitivity..made this a memorable exhibition for me. It's been more than 7 years since a practice made me weep..Adam's exhibition had that effect on me...twice in one day...
     
  30. sk9tingfan

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    BTW, Adam was not only skating post collision, he was also skating with a cold and an exacerbation of asthma per the Vancouver Sun. Pretty good performance considering all the hurdles (literal and figurative, Chan being one of them :p) he had to surmount