Why are you taking Sasha's title away?I already pointed out Fumie would have won the 2005, 2006, and 2009 National titles so would have 3 to Sasha's 0
The years Mao won her titles, except 2008-09, Fumie did not come in second; the three other times she came in either 4th and 7th. So I don't think Mao is a good excuse.
Fumie did come in 2nd to Shizukua once. So Fumie came in second to the "great skaters" twice. Cohen came in second to Kwan 4 times.
A comparison that might have been closer for debate would be Fumie Suguri's career vs. Surya Bonaly's career (3 world medals, 5th+4th at successive Olympics, etc.).
2005 worlds is far more of a than 2004. However small her chances of winning in 2004, winning 2005 worlds over Irina on her home ice skating that well is 20 times less. She could have won the silver in 2005 perhaps though, probably no medal in 2004 even skating her best, but chances of a gold were atleast higher than 2005.
She also was a very nice exhibition skater, so while I agree she wouldn't get the crowds Sasha would, I don't agree that "no one would want to see her".
Sasha was very popular in Europe as well as the US, and I didn't find European audiences during this time particularly receptive to Asian skaters, so I do think Sasha enjoyed a broader audience.
It's funny. The only time I preferred Sasha over Fumie was in the 2005-2006 season. Every other season, I liked Fumie better as I thought she had better choreography, way better skating skills, and more soul. Choreography in 2002-2003 was sort of a wash as I thought both skaters had blah routines. Also, Fumie's Carmen LP blows Sasha's out of the water.
That said, I'd give the edge to Sasha. I felt she improved every season whereas Fumie never improved upon her deficiencies.
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I dont know why you think beating Sasha in 2005 would be easier than 2004. Sasha's SP at the 2004 worlds was spectacular but her LP was mediocre, lots of shaky landings, combinations left out, and an ugly miss on a triple salchow near the end. Fumie probably had a better shot of silver at the 2004 worlds than 2005, but she wasnt winning gold at either one.
Sasha will always be a disappointment. Yes, she had a better career than Fumie but should have been one of the greats. I love Fumie but I would say maximized her potential, Sasha barely scratched the surface of hers.
This is maybe the funniest trash can election, but I fear the discussion will not go anywhere fun.
It would be one thing if she never did it, but she did and just produced something lesser at the most important events and times, as she did at lesser events, and lost gold medals or chances of them because of that.
Sasha losing 06 Worlds to Kimmie when Michelle, Irina, and Shizuka all were not there pretty much tells me she just was never meant to be a world champion. I mean...talk about being handed something on a golden platter...