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    Quote Originally Posted by museksk8r View Post
    07-10- Lambiel & Abbott & Savoie - 3 way tie
    That is quite an achievement given that Savoie didnt even skate in 2007-2010.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grassroots39 View Post
    That is quite an achievement given that Savoie didnt even skate in 2007-2010.
    LOL, perhaps just wishful thinking on my part that he had continued on. I corrected my list; thanks for catching that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by grassroots39 View Post
    It is not that they did everything wrong, but that someone else did a bit better. Still that is not the same as winning as is naturally given lesser value. I know skating is different as judges decide and sometimes they make questionable choices. However as much as a parallel can be drawn take a sprinter. Lets say a top female sprinter runs a 9.75. They probably (although you would have to see the race to know for certain) didnt really do anything wrong, that is a great and sometimes gold medal worthy time. However if someone else ran a 9.73 that day it still was just not good enough to gain the Olympic gold that day, and should not be recognized as if it were a gold medal, despite the racer probably doing nothing wrong per say.
    Again, I think there's a difference between a timed sport where you can see one person being another person objectively, and a judged sport where you have two comparable performances and the difference in results being a difference in opinion. I think having a 9-0 result or even a 8-1 result shows a real slam dunk. However, a minority opinion of 2 or more sort of shows that it's arguable and takes away a bit of the impact.

    Anyway, I'm not saying that the gold medalist isn't deserving and shouldn't be recognized at all. Of course not. There's usually great reasons as to why that skater won the gold over the other skater. However, I don't like it when fans then say "so and so" failed to win the gold when it really came down to a judge or two and his/her own personal opinion or interpretation of the program and scoring.

    Even with the discretion given to judges with GOE and PCS, and with the callers on levels, rotation, and edge calls, I do think COP is great in that it gives people a hard number to look at. You can then say "so-and-so" beat this skater by 10 points in the LP and the rules back them up even if the fans have a real problem with the scores.
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    Ladies

    91-94: Yamaguchi
    89-92: Ito
    95-98: Yamaguchi (she was still best skater in world in reality even though a pro)
    99-2002: Slutskaya
    2003-2006: Slutskaya
    2007-2010: Kim Yu Na
    2011-2014: Kim Yu Na

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    89-92: Browning
    91-94: Petrenko
    95-98: Stojko
    99-2002: Plushenko
    2003-2006: Plushenko
    2007-2010: Takahashi
    2011-2014: Hanyu

    Pairs and dance combined- only 1 choice allowed

    89-92: Klimova & Ponomarenko
    91-94: Miskutienok & Dmitriev
    95-98: Grischuk & Platov
    99-2002: Anissina & Peizerat
    2003-2006: Shen & Zhao
    2007-2010: Shen & Zhao
    2011-2014: Davis & White

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    I find quite strange to see so many voting for YuNa Kim as the best in the quad 2011-2014 as she competed only 3 times. To be the best in a quad you have to be there more than 3 times

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    Not really. If you only compete 3 times and yet still achieve as much or more than anyone else who competed all quad in just 3 competitions, it just makes it even more glaringly obvious you were the best. Who was better. Kostner who competed all quad and only managed 1 world title like Kim (and won with a way weaker set of performances) and won a lower Olympic medal, but more world medals so achieved about the same. Asada who didnt medal at the Olympics and managed only 1 world gold and 1 world bronze, so achieved less. This despite that they competed all quad, and Kim barely did and still did as much or more than they did.

    What is much stranger as the few people who picked someone other than Kim as the best of 2007-2010. Not sure what those people are smoking.

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    88-94 - Kurt Browning, Klimova-Ponomarenko, Gordeeva-Grinkov
    95-98 - GP, KO, BK, Dmitriev
    99-2002 = Yagudin, Berezhnay-Siharulidze
    2003-2006 - Lambiel, Shen Zhao
    2007-2010 - Virtue-Moir, Yu-Na Jim, Shen-Zhao, Mao, Savchenko Szelkovi
    2011-2014 - Patrick Chan, Virtue-Moir, Kostner, Volosozhar-Trankov

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