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    Best skater of each quad from 95-98

    Who are the best skaters of each quadrennial from 95-98 to now.

    I think it would be

    95-98
    pairs- Woetzel & Steuer
    men- Stojko
    dance- Gritschuk & Platov
    ladies- Lipinski

    99-2002
    pairs- Sale & Pelletier
    men- Yagudin
    dance- Anissina & Peizerat
    ladies- Slutskaya (close with her and Kwan, Irina as higher olympic medal + 1 world title + 3 grand prix finals so just edges Kwan and her 2 world titles)

    2003-2006
    pairs- Totmianina & Marinin
    men- Plushenko
    dance- Navka & Kostomarov
    ladies- Arakawa or Slutskaya or Cohen (not sure which of the 3 deserves it more)

    2007-2010
    pairs- Shen & Zhao
    men- Lysacek
    dance- Delobel & Schoenfelder (since they won 3 of the 4 biggest dance events in 3 different seasons- Europeans, grand prix final)
    ladies- Kim

    2011-2014
    pairs- Volosozhar & Trankov
    men- Hanyu (if he wins worlds)
    dance- Davis & White
    ladies- Kim

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    95-98 Kazahkova & Dmitriev pairs considering they really won the 97 grand prix final and worlds, to go with their 96 European and 98 olympic titles they were given the actual gold medal for. Urmanov mens giving him the 97 worlds he would have won without his injury, 98 olympic silver he wins without his injury, and 98 worlds he wins without his injury, to go with 96 grand prix final and 97 European titles. Tara for women. Gritschuk & Platov for dance.

    99-2002 Irina Slutskaya for women just barely ahead of Kwan. Yagudin for men. Berezhnaya for pairs. Anissina for dance.

    2003-2006 Belbin & Agosto for dance since they were robbed of all of Navka & Kostomarova's titles. Cohen for women since she was most consistent skater of quad, even if Slutskaya and Arakawa won more important things. Plushenko for men.

    2007-2010 Virtue & Moir for dance. Pang & Tong for pairs since they won 2 worlds and should have won 2010 olympics. Kim for women. Joubert for men since he medalled at every worlds and every europeans.

    2011-2014 Kim for women. Virtue & Moir for dance due to overscoring and unearned titles of Davis & White. Volosozhar & Trankov for pairs. Hanyu for men if he wins worlds, Chan if he does not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fracturedleg View Post
    Who are the best skaters of each quadrennial from 95-98 to now.

    99-2002
    pairs- Sale & Pelletier
    Nooooo!!! Berezhnaya & Sikharulidze

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xela M View Post
    Nooooo!!! Berezhnaya & Sikharulidze
    Sale & Pelletier are frauds. This poster was probably just going by medals, but their medals are hollow and mean nothing as they deserved none of them. I would say they were the 4th best pairs team of the quad behind B&S, Shen & Zhao, and Petrova & tikhonov. Their best was better than P&T and maybe S&Z, but those teams were a force the whole quad, unlike Sale & Pelletier who only were the last 2 seasons and skipped the 2002 worlds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KimGOAT View Post
    Sale & Pelletier are frauds. This poster was probably just going by medals, but their medals are hollow and mean nothing as they deserved none of them.
    Completely agree

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    In terms of iconic ability

    95-98- Stojko, Kwan, K&D, G&P
    99-02- Yagudin, Kwan, B&S and A&P
    03-06- Plushenko, Slutskaya, T&M, N&K
    07-10 Joubert, Kim/Asada, S&Z and D&S
    11-14 Chan, Kim, V&T and S&S and D&W and V&M

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twilight1 View Post
    In terms of iconic ability

    95-98- Stojko, Kwan, K&D, G&P
    99-02- Yagudin, Kwan, B&S and A&P
    03-06- Plushenko, Slutskaya, T&M, N&K
    07-10 Joubert, Kim/Asada, S&Z and D&S
    11-14 Chan, Kim, V&T and S&S and D&W and V&M
    If iconic ability is your basis then it should be S&Z for 2003-2006 too. T&M were probably the best team of that quad in wins and consistently strong skating, but there is nothing iconic about them. They were effecient and won, but left no mark or contribution to skating, and few would care to look back over any of their programs.

    Which D&S dance team are you referring to for 2007-2010? I would guess either Delobel & Schoenfelder or Denkova & Stayviski, since Domnina & Shabalin also didnt leave any mark with their programs or style beyond their medals.

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    It feels funny that Kwan who might be the best ever might also not have been the best skater of any quad. I agree with Tara in 95-98, Irina in 99-2002 as the top skaters of those quads. I dont know who is for 2003-2006, but it isnt Kwan for sure.

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    95-98- Stojko, Kwan, K&D, G&P
    99-02- Yagudin, Slutskaya, B&S, A&P
    03-06- Plushenko, Arakawa, T&M, N&K
    07-10- Lysacek & Takahashi - tie (no single man dominated this quad; Evan & Dai both only had 1 year of excellence), Kim, S&S, V&M
    11-14 Chan, Kostner (only lady to medal at every single Worlds in the quad & an Olympic bronze that should have been gold), V&T, D&W

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    95-98:
    Stojko
    Kwan
    K/D
    G/P

    99-02:
    Yagudin
    Kwan/Slutskaya
    B/S
    A/P

    03-06:
    Plushenko
    Slutskaya
    T/M
    N/K

    07-10:
    None of the men really
    Kim/Asada
    S/S
    V/M

    11-14:
    Chan/Hanyu
    I guess Kim
    V/T
    D/W

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    I didn't realize my opinion would be taken as fact. I guess I need to start everyone of my posts as IMVHO.

    And yes I was referring French D&S.

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    1995-1998:
    Pairs: Woetzel/Steuer
    Dance: Grishuk/Platov
    Ladies: Michelle Kwan
    Men: Elvis Stojko

    1999-2002
    Pairs: I guess I'll go with B/S over S/P since B/S were already great at the beginning of the quad
    Dance: Anissina/Peizerat
    Ladies: Kwan, although I see why some chose Slutskaya
    Men: Yagudin

    2003-2006:
    Pairs: Totmianina/Marinin
    Dance: Navka/Kostomarov
    Ladies: Slutskaya
    Men: Plushenko

    2007-2010:
    Pairs: Savchenko/Szolkowy
    Dance: Virtue/Moir
    Ladies: Mao Asada
    Men: Daisuke Takahashi

    2011-2014
    Pairs: Volosozhar/Trankov
    Dance: Davis/White, although Virtue/Moir are close
    Ladies: Kostner
    Men: Chan

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    1995-1998:

    Pairs: pukes
    Men: Stojko
    Dance: Grischuk-Platov
    Ladies: Tara Lipinski

    1999-2002:

    Pairs: Elena and Anton by FAR
    Men: Yagudin
    Dance: Anissina-Peizerat
    Ladies: Slutskaya

    2003-2006:

    Pairs: Totmianina-Marinin
    Men: Plushenko
    Dance: Denkova & Stayviski or Delobel & Schoenfelder (I do think N&K deserved most of their big titles, but I dont think they are the best, he is a fairly weak technician)
    Ladies: Arakawa or Cohen (Slutskaya didnt even skate over half the quad, and didnt win worlds and Olympics like inconsistent Shiz)

    2007-2010:

    Pairs: Shen-Zhao
    Men: Takahashi
    Dance: Domnina-Shabalin
    Ladies: Yu Na Kim

    2011-2014:

    Pairs: Volosozhar-Trankov
    Men: will reserve judgement until Friday
    Dance: Davis-White
    Ladies: Yu Na Kim

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    Quote Originally Posted by KimGOAT View Post
    Sale & Pelletier are frauds. This poster was probably just going by medals, but their medals are hollow and mean nothing as they deserved none of them.
    My thoughts exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KimGOAT View Post
    Sale & Pelletier are frauds. This poster was probably just going by medals, but their medals are hollow and mean nothing as they deserved none of them.
    My thoughts exactly.
    Throughout their career B/S were much better pair. But I believe that in 2002 OG S/P skated better, just on this individual event.

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    S&P were not frauds. They skated well maybe they should not have been rewarded the gold in 2002 but their win in 2001 with Tristan and Isolde was deserved.

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    Ladies- Lu Chen 95-98, Irina Slutskaya 99-2002, Irina Slutskaya 2003-2006, Yu Na Kim 2007-2010, Yu Na Kim 2011-2014

    Chen should have won the 96 worlds, would have won the 97 worlds if her coach didnt sabatoge her career, so that is why I picked her rather than Lipinski.

    Men- 95-98 nobody, 99-2002 Yagudin, 2003-2006 Plushy, 2007-2010 nobody, 2011-2014 Chan if Hanyu doesnt win worlds, Hanyu if he does win tonight

    Dance- 95-98 Krylova & Ovsiannikov, 99-2002 Anissina & Peizerat, 2003-2006 Belbin & Agosto, 2007-2010 Delobel & Schoenfelder and Domnina & Shabalin, 2011-2014 Virtue & Moir

    dance picks were based on fair judging

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    Quote Originally Posted by museksk8r View Post
    95-98- Stojko, Kwan, K&D, G&P
    99-02- Yagudin, Slutskaya, B&S, A&P
    03-06- Plushenko, Arakawa, T&M, N&K
    07-10- Lysacek & Takahashi - tie (no single man dominated this quad; Evan & Dai both only had 1 year of excellence), Kim, S&S, V&M
    11-14 Chan, Kostner (only lady to medal at every single Worlds in the quad & an Olympic bronze that should have been gold), V&T, D&W
    Arakawa shouldnt be given skater of the quad for 03-06. Normally a skater winning worlds and the Olympics would be a slam dunk but she has to be an exception. She had literally only 2 good events the whole quad. Her grand prix record is embarassing, her other showings at worlds awful, and she didnt even come better than 3rd at her own Nationals that period. I would put Slutskaya, Cohen, and maybe even Kwan and Asada all above her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pakimons View Post
    Arakawa shouldnt be given skater of the quad for 03-06. Normally a skater winning worlds and the Olympics would be a slam dunk but she has to be an exception. She had literally only 2 good events the whole quad. Her grand prix record is embarassing, her other showings at worlds awful, and she didnt even come better than 3rd at her own Nationals that period. I would put Slutskaya, Cohen, and maybe even Kwan and Asada all above her.
    Cohen never delivered a clean LP domestically or internationally, never won a World Championship title although it was served up to her on a silver (forgive the pun) platter, and finished behind Shizuka at the Olympics, yet you believe she deserves best skater of the quad over Arakawa? . . . seriously, put the crack pipe down. Asada had 1 sterling senior level performance at a major event in the quad, the 2006 Grand Prix Final, to defeat Slutskaya; nowhere close to the prestige of winning a World title over both Cohen and Kwan and winning an Olympic title over Cohen and Slutskaya. I like Irina, but she skated abysmally in the LP at the 2006 Olympics and many still argue that she shouldn't have finished on the podium in Torino, which I tend to agree with. Also, Slutskaya only had 1 stunning performance at a major event during this quad on home nation ice at the 2005 Worlds to win that title. I like Michelle too, but the 2006 quad was none too kind to her; she won a deserved World title on home nation ice in 2003, sneaked in for the World bronze in 2004 after a very shaky QR skate and bizarre time deduction in the SP, but valiantly finished 2nd in the LP after a streaker tried to disrupt her mental preparation before her skate. The disappointments for Michelle in 2005 and 2006 are too evident to go unnoticed though. Maybe it would be better to say that there was no true dominant lady in the 2006 quad, but if I am forced to name someone, it is easily Shizuka as her wins (2004 Worlds in Germany and 2006 Olympics in Italy) did not come with the benefit of home nation ice and she easily skated better overall than any other lady at the 2006 Olympics over both programs.

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    95-98- pairs 1. Shishkova & Naumov- should have won 3 straight world titles after 94 Olympics.
    2. Kazhakova & Dmitriev
    3. Berezhnaya & Sikharulidze- displayed by far highest caliber of skating of quad but too late.

    men 1. Stojko, 2. Eldredge, 3. Kulik
    ladies 1. Lipinski, 2. Kwan, 3. Chen


    99-2002 1. Berezhnaya & Sikhardlize, 2. Sale & Pelletier, 3. Petrova & Tikhonov
    men 1. Stojko, 2. Yagudin, 3. Plushenko
    ladies 1. Slutskaya, 2. Kwan, 3. Butyrskaya


    2003-2006 1. Totmianina & Marinin, 2. Shen & Zhao, 3. Zhangs
    men 1. Plushenko, 2. Lambiel, 3. Joubert
    ladies 1. Slutskaya, 2. Cohen, 3. Kwan or Arakawa

    2007-2010 1. Shen & Zhao, 2. Pang & Tong, 3. Savchenko & Szolkowy
    men 1. Takahashi or Joubert, 3. Lysacek
    ladies 1. Kim, 2. Asada, 3. Rochette
    1. Domnina & Shabalin, 2. Delobel & Schoenfelder, 3. Virtue & Moir

    2011-2014 1. Voloszhar & Trankov, 2. Savchenko & Szolkowy, 3. Stolbova & Klimov
    men 1. Hanyu, 2. Chan, 3. Ten or Takahashi
    ladies 1. Kim, 2. Kostner, 3. Asada
    1. Davis & White, 2 Virtue & Moir, 3. Weaver & Poje

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