This is an interesting take:
Although if someone called the police, they should take it seriously. But tweeting to the entire world "asking for advice" about it when you're already a lawyer or making a show of the aftermath by saying sexist things doesn't scream that the two parties are taking it seriously. So why should I? Can't help people who refuse to help themselves.
I do agree that it sounds like they were both involved. You can't bite someone unless they're already on you.
I hope they're mature enough to figure it out without any more of this.
Sometimes people think biting is no big thing, but for someone to call law enforcement for biting I suspect it might be significant. We do not know what happened, but it is not unusual for a victim to ask for charges to be dropped. That does not mean the event/abuse did not happen.
Ever think this could be a publicity stunt to keep his name in the news?
Is the state they're in not one of those states where a domestic violence victim cannot drop the charges no matter what? I thought that was a universal thing in America.
Oh, and just a thought for those saying that Victor dropping the charges proves it wasn't serious: how many woman have dropped charges "because it was an accident" or "he was drunk" or "it was my fault, I provoked him" and have later turned up dead?
To elaborate, he's just had a successful run with NBC. He doesn't need a publicity stunt.
Why people continue to think Johnny will do anything for publicity is beyond me, when Ashley and Adam were at the Oscars and Meryl and Charlie have been everywhere lately. Taking public gigs as they are offered is not always a bad thing, particularly if you have the talent, the wit, the personality to be on TV and people are interested.
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Is one punch enough? Does it matter if I hit you in the face or on the back?
What if the bite takes off, say, a portion of the ear?
I just can't think of any situation where adults biting each other isn't abuse/assault. Though it may be in self-defense; but it would still be in an abuse/assault scenario.
Last edited by Skittl1321; 03-05-2014 at 09:36 PM.
I want to apologize for my flippant comment earlier in the thread. My semi-sober snarking went too far, and I certainly don't think that, if this is domestic abuse (assuming it is seems to do justice to both partners), it is snarkworthy.
That being said, I'm skeptical that sanctimoniousness is any better than snarkiness when we're talking about complex cultural/social/sexual/legal/historical problems, and I will leave it at that.
There is absolutely nothing at all funny or trivial about domestic violence. Whether it occurs between a man and a woman, two women, or two men. Abuse is abuse. That being said, when looking into the facts and following Johnny's career and life up until now there are some things that are very disturbing about this. I don't think questioning some of the details and especially Victor means that I am victim-blaming or trivializing anything because there is definitely more than meets the eye here. I am not a Johnny apologist but I would hate for him to get labelled as a abuser and get a whole lot of negative publicity over this because many things are troubling.
For one, Johnny has been the subject of a tv show and movie where cameras followed him around 24/7. He's had countless interviews and a million friends talk about him as a person. He's also extremely honest and usually talks about things he does good and bad and is very up front about his flaws. Not once since he stepped into the public eye as a teenager has he ever been talked about by friends, coaches, peers or himself as a violent person or someone possessing any desire to hurt anyone or having a habit of lashing out.
Looking into his husband Victor Voronov reveals a police record for battery, theft, and DUI... all when he lived in Atlanta. It is his arrest for battery that most concerns me. Victor has a shady past and everything that can be gleaned publicly from his personality suggests that he possesses quite a dark side. Johnny has made comments in fan meetings to the effect of Victor always wants to go where he goes, and Victor likes to sit in on his work whether it's at the rink or at his agent's office. Many candid photographs of them in public show Victor watching Johnny or not far from his side when in social situations. Johnny has made comments in interviews about cutting/styling his hair a certain way or wearing/not wearing a certain thing because Victor wanted it. Simply making this police report public over twitter is disturbing and suspicious enough on Victor's part however, his tweets (and deletes) during the time Johnny was in Russia have been downright manipulative. He's tweeted himself half-naked, showing Johnny's name tattooed under his arm, several strange statements and even a tweet "good thing the videos weren't leaked" which sounded very much like a threat. He deleted all of these and claimed in a half-ass way that he was hacked.
In 2013 gay porn producer Michael Lucas harangued Johnny for continuing to support Russia and not boycotting the Olympics. Victor took serious exception to this and sent Lucas a series of disturbing and threatening private messages which Lucas sent to a website and made public. The messages tell him to stop saying anything negative about Johnny and threaten him with making his life miserable if he doesn't. In one message Victor tells Lucas "I am the LAST person you want to mess with. Trust me on this." I have been so disturbed ever since I read these messages and have wondered just what the hell Johnny has gotten himself into with this man.
Another thing that disturbs me is the horrible markings on Johnny's body in many recent pictures. Just browsing the past year on his Instagram reveals many deep purple and red blotches on and around his neck and chest in his personal photos. There is one picture with a very obvious deep bite mark on his chest and the posters on Instagram all commented. Hickeys and love marks are one thing but these huge purple splotches are worrisome. Physically the two are very different. Johnny may be a slight bit taller but he is much lighter and leaner. Victor is ripped... complete solid muscle and has mentioned that he has had marital arts training in the past. You don't just go up to someone and bite them. It occurs in the heat of a mutual struggle. What had to have been going on between them for that to happen? It suggests that Johnny was being held or restrained. No, this doesn't make it right but the fact that everything is all nicey nice between them again after Victor went to the trouble to involve police, file a report, and make this public is extremely worrisome. I know Johnny is a colourful character but anyone who has watched his movie or show knows that he has a different private side to him. I do worry about him and I can't help believing that he married a very jealous, possessive, and manipulative man who I pray does not turn out to be dangerous.
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Most of these things have occurred to me, sunny_sari, in turning the various possibilities over in my mind. Victor does strike me as very manipulative, and yes, those threats against Michael Lucas were disturbing. Lucas is no prize, but it was plain stupid to post threats like that.
I will agree that in the movie and TV show, Johnny never gave the impression of being violent. At most, he could be cold, aloof, and bitchy. When he got pissed off at Priscilla Hill in the documentary, he stormed out. That seems to be his MO when he gets upset...to walk away from the conflict rather than address it. He has also been faced with antagonism time and again (from Lucas and so many others) and has either ignored it or maybe said something stupid (like calling protesters "idiots") but has never said anything belligerent about it. Then again, we don't know him and can only speculate from what we've seen.
But I must ask, does Victor really have a record for battery and theft? The DUI I knew about, but the other two? Where is the evidence for this? Agreed that Victor (though he appears to be small) is very muscular, but the markings on Johnny's body? They always looked like hickeys to me, with the exception of one time when there was a bruise on his forehead, which he attributed to an "unfortunate packing accident," and one could imagine a suitcase fell on him when he tried to put it up on a shelf.
I've never found Victor watching Johnny creepy-- I thought it was sweet. I did think he seemed rather possessive...Johnny said Victor liked to socialize with him all the time, while Johnny sometimes just wanted to go out with his girlfriends. Johnny (writing in his column) blamed himself, saying he needed to learn to compromise. On the one hand I can understand how Victor would be upset when Johnny goes off to China or Russia for 3 weeks, and slightly possessive behavior doesn't necessarily mean anything more sinister; on the other hand, Victor's tweets have been downright weird lately.
This is all speculation, though, and again, we can't know what happened on the night Johnny was arrested. I'll say again we really know nothing.
was Johnny arrested?