Also, she skated a very long time ago and had like little competition. I think people will remember Chan, just probably not as fondly as Daisuke, who had far more memorable programs during his career.
Considering there were only five other competitors one might think she could at least finished fourth.
Don't forget that today fourth place and a BOW gets you to the Olympics where finishing 7th is considered both redemption and getting gypped at the same time.
Or that winning the OGM with some of the greatest technical skating every seen by a Lady on Olympic Ice is considered little more than the the product of a fix.
Patrick realized a while ago he could have picked a better sport or discipline to excel in.
Last edited by MrLucky; 03-01-2014 at 09:53 PM.
Yagudin for me is on that top 5 list. And unlike Chan, he really deserved what World titles he did win.
But I think legends are often defined by how bright they shine next to their contemporaries. With Chan, he has competed against skaters who simply either have more star power and charisma or a more impressive career.
Last edited by moviechicko_o; 03-02-2014 at 03:45 AM.
I don't think personal likeability really factors into how Chan will be remembered (or forgotten). If arrogance counted against you, Plushenko sure wouldn't be on anybody's list.
I think it is more these two factors
Amazingly awesome point. At the end of the day, it does not matter whether his wins can be dissected and rationalized as correct under the current scoring system. He will be remembered as the guy who kept winning Worlds in spite of falling or stumbling out of jumps in one or both programs and (in a lot of folks minds) being outskated by someone else.floskate: It seems that he could possibly be destined to be remembered as the Trixi Schuba of IJS.
In pondering the "5 Greatest" question, I realized that I cannot remember the details of any of Chan's programs. They all just blur into one fairly homogenous lump. On the other hand, I can sit here, close my eyes and visualize segments from Petrenko, Browning or Yagudin's programs from much longer ago. Great edges and basic skating skills are no substitute for real interpretive ability. Chan's gifts there are good but not exceptional, and that is the quality that usually makes skaters remembered in the long run.Spun Silver: He is neither a great artist nor a monster technician who regularly delivers stupendous programs of either sort.
I was referencing her fame outside of skating circles. The fame that she and Witt later enjoyed were due to more than their skating accomplishments.
I think of you underrate Chan. He lacks consistency and that is why he has many controversial wins. Other than his lack of consistency though he is a perfect skater with amazing artistry, the best ever skating skills, stunning spins and footwork and monstrous and incredible jumps.
Well, if you don't land your jumps half the time, there's only so much to enjoy when splatting is going on.
Chan has only had a few really poor performances in the quad. Skate Canada 2010, that grand prix event he lost to Verner that same season, 2013 Worlds LP and 2014 Olympics LP. That is it. Not bad at all. 2012 Worlds some disagreed with his win but he didnt skate bad at all whether he was the rightful winner or not.