GPF, 4CCs, Euros, World Team Trophy and Worlds count towards season's best scores as well.
Originally Posted by nylynnr
Don't know for sure about Olympics- but ISU does consider it for 'Personal Best' score, so it seems like it might count for Season's Best, in seasons where it happens.)
Edit to add: Finally found the answer: the Olympics are considered Season's Best and do affect Grand Prix seeding.
http://isuprod.blob.core.windows.net...gp-2013-14.pdf See 2.2d
Last edited by Skittl1321; 01-27-2014 at 02:57 PM.
I agree about the throws. This has been one of the issues for US pairs in general throughout the years- the size of the throws (and twist) are sometimes conservative and on the smaller side. They tend to lack the explosiveness of top pair teams. A team like Z/B is probably more limited by their smaller height difference, but K/O have a couple more inches between them, so hopefully they can increase the size of their throws. A lot of it is about technique, and it's a risk to make throws bigger. But being able to perform well executed throws with big height and distance helps separate great teams from good teams. Another thing about US pairs throws in general- they need to shy away from doing throw 3S in short programs when possible. It's not quite the same as ladies skaters who have no 3Lz or 3F in their SP, but it's close, especially when you consider what the rest of the good pairs in the world are doing. I don't want to sound too negative though, US pairs need patience and to develop at their own pace. Some of the US teams are still very new.
Originally Posted by olympic
On another note, thanks to 5Ali3 for your post and those pictures of the twists. I had been looking at those same videos, but didn't know how to post pictures of them here. Based on those camera angles, I found it difficult to determine the angle of their left legs. There appears to me to be a rather minute difference between them there. However I was able to find video of D/C's twist from the front, and I could see a slightly more "even split" between the two legs, as you mentioned.
Each leg has to be 45 degrees.
Originally Posted by Skittl1321
Last edited by stjeaskategym; 01-28-2014 at 07:36 AM.
In the new Buzzfeed article on skating, there's a great excerpt, below, about pairs. The author discusses his reactions to seeing pairs practices at Nationals. I loved this:
But if the lower-level pairs boys [at Nationals] seemed deeply uncomfortable, the senior-level teams have somehow evolved into models of heterosexual perfection. I’m not planning to stay long at the senior pairs practice, but two hours pass before I can look away.
Four teams — eight skaters — take the ice at a time. They’re all dressed in head-to-toe black, long sleeves and long pants, identical except for the women’s shirts, which are mostly backless. They’re all skating to the same late-‘90’s pop medley over the loudspeaker. But there’s something in seeing these skaters together, without audience or costume, that’s fundamentally different from watching a pairs program on its own. The partners skate in perfect alignment; the angles of their legs and arms are exactly parallel, or else perfect mirrors when they reach toward each other, and when one moves alone — a woman raising an arm as she gazes back at her man, his hands on her waist, his gaze solidly forward — it seems, somehow, as if he is moving through her.
Even so, it’s the non-choreographed moments of unison that are most striking. Partners put their hands on their hips the same; they brush snow from their legs the same; they even slump the same, swinging their arms or rubbing their foreheads before straightening at the same time. Even when they’re all skating separately, when all four pairs have divided and instead eight bodies arc around the ice in a mess of lonely directions, I can see exactly who belongs to whom. The partners’ connection is evident in their rhythms and the angles of their limbs, and when one by one they come together again, it’s almost a relief, things clicking into place. Their bodies are beautiful, made more beautiful by proximity to other bodies, without a trace of sex or romance; each pair seems less an ideal couple than an ideal male and female version of the same human essence.
Because apart from a few specific occasions — namely, at the Gay Games — pairs and ice dance are a mandated heterosexual performance. The rules are grounded in tradition, but perhaps also fear; it’s easy to imagine how threatening same-sex partners, displaying this level of physical connection, could be to heterosexual norms: a dazzling, undeniable example of two becoming one. The pairs practice is, and will remain, the most striking thing I see all week.
Amazing writing! Here's the link to the whole article: http://www.buzzfeed.com/blairbraverm...-in-the-closet.
Last edited by clairecloutier; 02-01-2014 at 02:38 PM.
Reason: Added link to article.
Imagine how he would react to watching Russian pairs practice!
Thanks for posting that.
Just an FYI that the author of the Buzzfeed article is a woman. I met her in Boston.
Thanks for the tip. Such a great article. I liked how she gave us a perspective on what it's like behind the scenes at Nationals. Especially in regard to the federation's presence and actions (or lack thereof).
Originally Posted by kiss-n-cry