Right. While I definitely think Tonya is responsible for her behavior as an adult, at the same time, it's important to realize anyone that who grew up in her home would be severely messed up. Picture Tonya growing up in Kristi's home. Would Tonya have been a brat? Probably not. She probably would have been polite and well-behaved. Now picture Kristi growing up in Tonya's home. Think she would've been Miss Congeniality? Probably not. She probably would have dropped out of school and ended up with an abusive boyfriend as well.She grew up being victimized, and I think that she's never learned not to see herself as a victim in life.
Anyway, we can hate Tonya's character and some of her actions while still having some sympathy and/or pity for her as a human being.
I truly do feel sorry for her.
Nancy doesn't seem to be particularly bitter toward Tonya either, which I find very admirable.
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Nancy seems like a very centered person. She sounds so content to be a wife and mother.
Well, I know that she's said that she had always dreamed of being a mom. Kinda sad who she ended up being a mom with, though. I feel sorry for her in certain ways too. Of course, Nancy entered into the relationship willingly, but still...she could've done a lot better than that. I don't know if she just never got any good advice or did get some but refused it. I wonder if she ever has any regrets?She sounds so content to be a wife and mother.
Mary missed another one (as did the ESPN one) when Tonya says "high up people in the association" told her to get back with Jeff ..... why didn't anyone say WHO!! TELL ME WHO!! WHAT ARE THEIR NAMES!! I don't believe for a minute anyone in USFS told her to get back with Jeff. If they did .... name names!
I thought the documentary was engrossing. I was planning to record it and watch it later in the week (still all about the men's hockey), but I once it started, I watched the entire thing. I have to say that my favourite scene was watching Nancy rehabilitating. I also forgot that she had her own sekret test skate! I also loved the scene where Nancy was working out with her mother. So heartwarming.
I enjoy these NBC reports before the Closing Ceremonies. In SLC, they did one on Dorothy and Peggy. In Vancouver, they did a report on Americans staying in Newfoundland during 9/11. I don't recall what they did in Torino.
^^^ Off topic (and since you like the stories), on NBC Saturday afternoon coverage they did a story on a Russian hockey team that was killed in a plane crash in 2011. If that's posted out in internet land, its so worth the 45 minutes to watch it. It was heart wrenching.
Back to Tonya ... as in the ESPN one, Tonya's aggression about having to tell the story and 'I'm done with this, let it go, move on, I'm done with her' ... Tonya dear, no one forced you to do this interview, or ESPN, or Access Hollywood, or Entertainment Tonight, or Inside Edition, or any other of the dozens of shows I've seen you on over the last 20 years talking about it! Do the words "No Comment" exist in your vocabulary? It worked for Nancy for 20 years since this is the first time we have ever really heard a detailed interview from her, and I'm guessing she only agreed to do it since she was doing analyst work for NBC. It worked for Jeff for 20 years since the first time I ever saw an interview with him was that one that was circulating just a few months ago. I'm predicting we'll be hearing from Tonya again for the 25 year telling everyone to "move one, get over it, let it go" once again. And the 30, and the 35, and the 40 ...... and maybe even a few years inbetween.
I thought Nancy made a classy impression, and she still looks good for 45. I never realized that her 'corny' remark was not about Disney, it was about wearing her Olympic medal around her neck. I agree with Nancy. Its tacky and pretentious when Olympians wear their medals after the award ceremony.
I keep hoping that time and parenthood will bring her some wisdom, but that doesn't seem to be happening. Ain't no fool like an old fool.
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For the record, Nancy was hired on as an analyst after she filmed the documentary. Mary Carillo convinced her that she would get a fair shake in this film, and she finally gave in and agreed to do it. And I'm glad she did, I think it showed people a very different side of her than the one they thought they knew (ie: whiny ice princess). And I'm especially glad Mary pointed out that she was every bit as blue collar as Tonya was; she just had the blessing of a stable, loving family. I thought it was very well done overall, and it was nice to finally hear Nancy tell her side of the story. It has always irritated me how some people treated her injury like a big joke because of the way she reacted to it.
And good ol' Tonya, she certainly has her act down pat ("Which day was that?"). I nearly fell out of my chair laughing where she once again denied Shawn was her bodyguard as she did in the other documentary; however, Mary and team were clever enough to run the 1994 video of her with Shawn behind her as she said this. That 1994 clip was also seen earlier in the film and showed her clearly identifying Shawn as her bodyguard...
"Once you've skated together long enough, and you're really good friends, you can close your eyes, put your hand out and she's right there." Joe Dolkiewicz, 2011 US Novice Pairs Bronze Medalist
Nancy looks good, and happy.
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Yeah Nancy does look very happy. She looks pretty good for her age too.
Peggy had a very difficult childhood as well, they were homeless for a summer, her father was an alcoholic. probably the worst thing for Tonya was the emotional and physical abuse.
I am happy that each of them is married and have families. Nancy in particular is pretty impressive in her outlook, not once biting on the easy remark in the Costas interview, particularly around the "did she plan it?"
And is her daughter too cute or what? Just adorable.
On Peggy's A&E biography, one of her friends recounted an incident at a restaurant where Peggy's mom slapped her face because she refused to eat a piece of steak or something like that. I might be wrong, but the reason for the slap was the fact that the skating was putting a drain on the family bank account and Peggy's mom didn't want her wasting food. That is how I interpreted it at the time.Peggy had a very difficult childhood as well, they were homeless for a summer, her father was an alcoholic. probably the worst thing for Tonya was the emotional and physical abuse.