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    If you really want to get a sneak peek at who is staying and going this season, check out the Downton Abbey link at IMDB. Just don't bring any spoilers back here, please!
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    really, dont you get to see the series when they air it the first time? i didnt realize you had to watch it with rowdy ex colonists.
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    The Secret Jewish History of Downton Abbey http://jd.fo/a23Zi#.UtvzjpnwsP4.twitter … via @jdforward You knew there had to be a connection, right?
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    Not really so secret, as they've talked a lot about Almina, wife of the fifth Earl of Carnarvon. But still an interesting article.

    [And I think that her surname of Wombwell is just perfect...considering her biological dad was a Rothchild! ]

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    Quote Originally Posted by my little pony View Post
    really, dont you get to see the series when they air it the first time? i didnt realize you had to watch it with rowdy ex colonists.
    Nope...I'm watching on PBS. It's also being shown on Vision up here, which is usually a lot of religious programming, from what I know... Time shift is a wonderful thing...I can watch on Detroit PBS at 7 or Spokane at 10.
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    Ok, I am not reading the thread because I am still catching up. I just finished the season 3 finale. Poor Matthew and poor Mary! I always knew they were doomed but at least they had some time to be happy together and made a beautiful baby boy out of it. I was so glad he got to meet him.

    Now, does anyone else have a major problem with the actress who plays Mrs. Crowley (Cora)? I literally cringe every time she has lines. She always has this same look on her face. Her face turned down, eyes turned way up and full on pout. You can even hear it in her voice. I absolutely can't stand it. If another major character must be killed off, please let it be her!!
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    "i always think there is something foreign about high spirits at breakfast"

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    now i understand why i got mrs hughes in that quiz, she's a total badass when she isnt meddling
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigB08822 View Post
    Now, does anyone else have a major problem with the actress who plays Mrs. Crowley (Cora)? I literally cringe every time she has lines. She always has this same look on her face. Her face turned down, eyes turned way up and full on pout. You can even hear it in her voice. I absolutely can't stand it. If another major character must be killed off, please let it be her!!
    I agree. I have always felt that she was the one weak actor/actress on the show.


    Could some kind soul please explain to me what the heck Mrs. Hughes was talking about when she confronted Edna? What was Edna doing according to the book? What did the book prove? I re-watched that segment and am still clueless.

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    the book, married love, was a real book and had information (i dont know if it was accurate) about ovulation and conception. so if she was trying to get pregnant and couldnt get branson to sleep w her again, she could make a play for someone else at that time. at least that is how i took it.
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    I loved this episode. Glamour is back! How graceful and poised did Mary look climbing those stairs at the club? She is not beautiful in that strict sense but her impeccable carriage and grace makes her very striking.

    As for Edna/Mrs Hughes confrontation, I think she took a stab in the back because the book talks about pregnancy and how to prevent it [among other things on intimacy]. Mrs Hughes correctly deducted that if she was reading it, she might not have been pregnant. Her walking off in a huff reminded me of O'Brien's similar exit.

    Tony is gentle yes but when Mary fully comes back to life, will she eat him up?

    Grantham still unused to women talking business.

    Jack Ross!!

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    So is Rosamund the only person who actually cares enough about Edith to warn her about Gregson?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ssminnow View Post
    So is Rosamund the only person who actually cares enough about Edith to warn her about Gregson?
    and or smart

    her parents seem a bit clueless. i still think there was *something* w her fiance that her father may have known or suspected or heard as gossip and wouldnt say out loud.
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    I'm already hating the Anna/Bates storyline, and wish it would just go away.
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    Mrs. Hughes was giving Green the evil side-eye, so I think she suspects him for the rape of Anna.

    Heartbreaking to see Anna so wounded, and pulling away from John; he's so hurt and confused...and so is she.

    I like the growing relationship between Violet and Isobel. And Dr. Clarkson understands how to get Isobel interested in helping others, and, therefore, getting her back to LIVING.

    I hope that Evil Edna is really gone for good...I*HATE*HER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I like how, once again, Tom reached out to Mrs. Hughes for help and advice...she's like his surrogate mum. And the way she dressed down Edna was a thing of beauty!

    Lord Gillingham seems in a bit of a rush...makes me wonder about his true motives.

    Now that Edith and Michael have "done the deed", I expect her life is going to get really, REALLY complicated.

    Still can't quite figure the story direction for Rose, but I guess Jack Ross will be a factor.

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    Edna got the !! Yay! Good riddance.

    It is a good point about Lord Gillingham, what's the urgent urgency?


    I wonder if Edith will get pregnant? Someone has to get pregnant at this rate...
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    i'm wondering if lord gilly's financial shape isnt as good as he makes it out to be
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    Quote Originally Posted by my little pony View Post
    i'm wondering if lord gilly's financial shape isnt as good as he makes it out to be
    Good point. I also think this isn't the last we have seen of his valet.
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    http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2013-...-shuts-up-shop

    Downton Abbey series four, episode four review: Branson is saved, Mary shuts up shop
    Jealousy, heartache, vomiting and some incredibly sexy admin - it's all in our terribly comprehensive recap

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    Just watched the last two eps last night so my comments may be muddled.

    I was unspoiled, and my heart breaks for Anna. What a horrible, horrible thing. I know she's a fictional character and what happened was fiction, but it just rings too true for all the women (and men) who have been victimized like this, and who continue to be. I guess they chose Anna for this because they need another Anna/Bates tragic storyline, but I think from an issues perspective, Anna was the perfect choice because she is playing it so real and true. I can't imagine the resolution for this.

    Also, I think Mrs Hughes knows who it was. She saw him return after noting with Bates how long Anna had been gone, and she knew he had been talking to Anna quite a bit. Plus, if there was any question that it had been one of the DA servants, there's no way she'd just let it go. Because it was someone from another house she could keep Anna's secret.

    But I will say I was shocked at her treatment of Edna. Obviously Edna is a golddigger, and I guess Hughes has to take the side of a member of the household, but two things bothered me. One is that she barely scolded Tom for his part - I guess we are meant to think it's a symptom of the times and class structure that being drunk and a man makes it OK to sleep with a servant? I guess that is supposed to help us understand why Anna doesn't want anyone to know, but I think we already understand that. But then Hughes actually says to Edna, in the same room where she found poor Anna - "I will lock this door, tear off your clothes and hold you down myself"???? I thought that was really insensitive writing, and I'm surprised even the actors didn't object to those lines.

    Other thoughts - do we trust Gregson? I had the impression until now that Edith knew all about him and was making her own decisions, but what was that document that she barely looked at before signing for him? At the same time we learn that he is capable of a swindle himself at the card table? He acted like he was doing it for Edith and because it was the right thing to do, but did he really do it to ingratiate himself with her father (and have something to hold over him) and the Crawley's circle of friends?

    I bought that Gillingham was in a hurry to marry and get himself settled, but I didn't buy his undying love for Mary. She didn't seem to either, but at the same time considered the option. If this was to be an alignment as much as a marriage, shouldn't she have looked further into his finances and situation? He already said he had to sell the family home, so obviously moving into DA would be a step up for him. Is the rest of the family so impressed with his title that they are forgetting that titles are having less and less meaning as the estates they represent fall apart? I see Cora wanting Mary to be happy and move on, but she of all people should know that matches involving money, estates, inheritances and titles are very complicated - and it's often the women who end up on the short end of the stick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenny View Post
    But I will say I was shocked at her treatment of Edna. Obviously Edna is a golddigger, and I guess Hughes has to take the side of a member of the household, but two things bothered me. One is that she barely scolded Tom for his part - I guess we are meant to think it's a symptom of the times and class structure that being drunk and a man makes it OK to sleep with a servant? I guess that is supposed to help us understand why Anna doesn't want anyone to know, but I think we already understand that. But then Hughes actually says to Edna, in the same room where she found poor Anna - "I will lock this door, tear off your clothes and hold you down myself"???? I thought that was really insensitive writing, and I'm surprised even the actors didn't object to those lines.

    Other thoughts - do we trust Gregson? I had the impression until now that Edith knew all about him and was making her own decisions, but what was that document that she barely looked at before signing for him? At the same time we learn that he is capable of a swindle himself at the card table? He acted like he was doing it for Edith and because it was the right thing to do, but did he really do it to ingratiate himself with her father (and have something to hold over him) and the Crawley's circle of friends
    Interesting points about the Edna story line. I hate her so much, that I'd never have considered this take on it. But I'm not convinced she and Tom actually had sex. He was really drunk, and his memory seems muddled, at best. And, as Thomas said, Edna is a "manipulative little w(b)itch!" I felt sorry for the Glenn Close character in Fatal Attraction...I do not feel sorry for Edna. I just hope, to paraphrase The Wizard of Oz, that she's not merely "dead"...she's really most sincerely "dead!"

    I wonder about Michael Gregson too. He's seems too good to true.... And Edith barely glanced at that document before signing it. Plus he mentioned earlier about having a "checkered past" and "misspent youth."
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