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I would totally back having Max on the team as a strong technician and then one of Adam and Jason, but Max hasn't been the consistent quad machine he was last year. At Skate America, he looked incredibly shaky and I was shocked he came out with a medal at all. Adam and Jason have been far more consistent, and with Jason it's a matter of nerves with his 3A- in his junior worlds skate from earlier this year his 3As were very high and nice, unlike the ones at Skate America where he was having issues with nerves. My main argument with having a team of Jason and Adam is that Jason has been extremely consistent with his SP, it's been very quality and consistent throughout the season and this would help in the team event greatly. Adam has a very strong LP too, and he seems to be getting much better with his quads. Having Jason skate the SP and Adam skate the LP seems like it would be a really good idea for a team event IMO.
I guess from a logical perspective it would make sense to send one technician and one artist or complete package. So from that perspective maybe a good idea to send whichever of Aaron, Miner, or Farris skates better at Nationals, and then give the spot to whichever of Abbott, Rippon, Dornbush, Brown skates better. Then on another side as the U.S doesnt probably have any real medal hopes this year, maybe best to send someone who might be around for 2018. That would probably rule out Abbott, and possibly rule out Rippon or Miner (well the latter two might be around then but I doubt they will be World contenders or much stronger than they are now).
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Rippon and Brown
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Adam and Jason!!
Adam Rippon and Jason Brown. I love Abbott, too, but Adam and Jason even more.
Rippon is also Mr. Finnice´s biggest favourite. If he would skate at the Olys, Mr. Finice would watch with me.
pinky and judgejudy, I'd get behind the "one artist, one technician" argument if there was such a thing as a super reliable technician among US men. There isn't. Aaron and Miner have absolutely nothing to prop them up if their jumps desert them, Brown and Rippon have plenty.
It's just my wish anyway, Nats will decide. There's no point trying to peer too far into the future. Anything could happen in the next quadrennial. Jason is young, but anyone can get a career-ending injury (Skategods please don't hear this!), you can't ever know if "right now" isn't the only chance a skater might have. They can't afford to hold back, calculate and speculate...
Touching the void.
Rippon leading the poll, didn't see it coming at all.
Abbott and Brown for me.
I would love it if Jason out of nowhere suddenly unleashed a quad at Nationals. If he skated fairly clean there is no way he wouldn't make the team. As it is there is only one skater landing quads consistently and that's Max so he probably doesn't need it at least against the US Men.
I really like Max, and would be happy with him on the team, but as a "strong technician" he has faltered a bit this season too. Maybe not on 3A, but he hasn't repeated his brilliant nationals skate from last year.
I think Brown is actually a long-shot for the team though, as much as he is a popular choice.
Dornbush and either Rippon or Aaron. Abbott is an eternal headcase. (Yes, I know, Dornbush is too -- who said ubers had to be logical? But Abbott's an even bigger headcase.) As for Brown, I do like him, but I think his lack of a quad would be a more important factor than many people seem to realize. And I say that as someone who hates quads.
I'll vote for Rippon in the poll, I guess, just because he's had such a good season.
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Since this was in the 'hoping for' category, I went with Abbott & Farris. I realize it's a pretty unlikely scenario for both of them to skate 2 clean programs, though. Men's will be a blood bath at Nationals, but I'm fine with lots of skaters making the Olympic team, so I'm just looking forward to a well-skated event.
Adam & Max!
Jason as my backup.
Farris and Dornbush are good packages if they skate well, but Farris has not been skating well all season which I am very dissapointed by. Dornbush had a good performance in his last event, hopefully he can build on that. I would be hapy as that for the team, but I dont have much confidence in either to deliver at Nationals. Dornbush due to his long history, and Farris due to his season.
To the people who say Brown and Rippon have alot to hold them up even if they some jumps, I would have to mostly disagree. Yes they can get good PCS, but Brown is technically limited for todays standards right now even if he skates cleanly, so if he misses any jumps his scores will not be good, and he also doesnt have the rep yet to get really high PCS internationally either. Rippon has never gotten huge PCS internationally, and technically even on a good day he is also limited so has to skate cleanly if he is going to do respectably. I think the only U.S men that can make some mistakes internationally and still score well are Abbott and to some degree due to his difficulty Aaron (even with his lowish PCS). Aaron made alot more mistakes than Rippon at Skate America and still nearly beat him, even with much lower PCS. It is worrying Aaron doesnt have even close to the technical consistency he had to end last season though, and yes without that he is in trouble, and there seems less point to send him unless he turns it around at Nationals. Unfortunately in Abbotts case especialy he cant even keep it within that margin, and tries to see if he is Patrick Chan to the judges (which he is not). He can score well internationally even with some mistakes, but not with a meltdown, and it is more often the latter.