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    Sorry to be OT but does anyone know why Cappellini Lanotte had the deduction for an illegal element? Was it the lift?

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    Finally! I am so glad to see V/M skate like OLYMPIC CHAMPIONS, no question about that. Even the EuroSports commentators, who were hesitant about the program at the beginning of the season, could not get over how sensational that program was. They had a story and it was simple: two different personalities dancing together. On the replay, I felt I was watching a Hollywood movie with all the facial expressions.

    I know there's a lot of panic here, but V/M needed to skate lights out and build momentum, and they did it. Now there's a whole lot of people upset about how that performance could possibly be scored second and it's reminding people why V/M's skills are so exceptional. Tides are turning

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    This is from the ISU website:

    “Tessa and I are extremely happy with our skate tonight. We’ve been training really well at home and we wanted to skate just as well. I found myself coming to this week really excited to compete with Meryl and Charlie. We both skated well and this narrow margin will be exciting for the fans and hopefully have more people interested in ice dancing”, Moir said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ddtpdx View Post
    This is from the ISU website:

    “Tessa and I are extremely happy with our skate tonight. We’ve been training really well at home and we wanted to skate just as well. I found myself coming to this week really excited to compete with Meryl and Charlie. We both skated well and this narrow margin will be exciting for the fans and hopefully have more people interested in ice dancing”, Moir said.
    awesome attitude. if they had complained, it would reinforce the image of the canadians being whiners among FS fans (with scott already named d*bag in some sectors).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ddtpdx View Post
    This is from the ISU website:

    “Tessa and I are extremely happy with our skate tonight. We’ve been training really well at home and we wanted to skate just as well. I found myself coming to this week really excited to compete with Meryl and Charlie. We both skated well and this narrow margin will be exciting for the fans and hopefully have more people interested in ice dancing”, Moir said.
    Scott's being very diplomatic. Unfortunately I'm not more interested. I'm pissed off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by professordeb View Post
    So inquiring minds wish to know your thoughts on the twizzle mistakes of these two:

    V/M's SD at 2013 Worlds http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t46vJL8ABrs go to about the 2:15 mark for where they begin the twizzles

    D/W SD at 2013 GPF http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yStrH3MDEuk where you should go to about the 1:55 mark.

    I look at the two videos and those mistakes look pretty much the same to me. However, the scoring of them is rather ... interesting.

    Some look at the V/M mistake and say yeah, a mistake, should have been dinged. D/W were clean so of course they deserve a better score on that element and better GOE too. Many would agree that a reduction in the GOE was warranted but not as much as was received. Still unsure as to why the twizzle was downgraded too, but it was. Then there was a lowering of some of the PCS. OK, they messed up but the level of their deductions did not reflect the level of their mistake. There really was no call for the amount of marks lost on that element.

    And then you have the SDs at the GPF. Looking at the D/W twizzle mistake, most say yes, it's a mistake and it should be reflected in the marks. V/M were clean on the element so of course V/M should have scored better on the element. And yet, that isn't what happened. In the eyes of most of those judges, the D/W twizzles were done just as cleanly and those done by V/M. In fact, some judges didn't even lower the GOE for the "loss of synchronization" that took place today. The PCS also did not reflect a timing issue when 3 -- yes 3 -- of the judges gave D/W a perfect 10 for interpretation/timing. BTW, that particular PCS carries the most weight when factored -- you get the full 100% of the mark compared to the 80% you'd get with skating skills. Guess I know which of the PCS I'd be aiming for perfection in the SD.
    Could you copy this post to the ISU Ice Dance Technical Panel? I think they need something to talk about post competition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sequins View Post
    You are so right. Figure skating isn't accountable to anyone and that is the problem. Yes this isn't even about D/W. It's about this damn 'sport' that just keeps showing itself as the corrupt, crooked, embarassment that it's always been. The judges can do whatever the hell they want and sorry we just have to live with it. No accountability, no repercussions, no shame. They almost seemed, for a second when this new system came to be that they just might of gotten the message but I see they just can't help themselves. Screw the athletes and screw their hard work, the hours they waste, the lives they sacrifice and for what? So in the end a judge can do what ever the heck they want with no explanation necessary? I am beyond fed up.

    ....and while this isn't all about D/W I can't help but be amused that some people think us V/M fans ought to be 'ecstatic' that they are so close to D/W. That it proves they are 'still in the race'. They skated a damn near perfect SD and yet still got beaten by a team who wasn't? I don't give a damn either that it's only .07 cause guess what they still lose whether it's .07 or 10 points. What happened wasn't right and what is happening in this sport isn't right and I'm not gonna just sit here, be 'grateful' and pretend that it is.
    Honestly, the sport is more corrupt now than it was at Salt Lake City Olympics. I do not care if that is a hyperbole,
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    Quote Originally Posted by parapluies View Post
    Honestly, the sport is more corrupt now than it was at Salt Lake City Olympics. I do not care if that is a hyperbole,
    You're probably right. It's just easier to hide now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by professordeb View Post
    So inquiring minds wish to know your thoughts on the twizzle mistakes of these two:

    V/M's SD at 2013 Worlds http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t46vJL8ABrs go to about the 2:15 mark for where they begin the twizzles

    D/W SD at 2013 GPF http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yStrH3MDEuk where you should go to about the 1:55 mark.
    After viewing the slow-motion I think what might have happened is that they didn't acknowledge Tessa's last two or so twizzles (of the first set) as twizzles but as three turns. If you look at her skates you see that they do half turn, half turn, half turn whereas if you watch Scott's skate it's obvious they do a smooth revolution. (and so does Tessa's skate at the beginning of the twizzles)
    D/W on the other hand lost synchronisation but not their balance as Tessa seems to have thus neither seems to have slipped into three-turns.

    I'm by no means an expert but I did do ice dance for a few years, did twizzles and three-turns, so I know the difference and I know the judges are looking for twizzles to be twizzles and not a series of three-turns which is what a lot of the lower ranked couples do. I'm not saying that is what haappened but it's a possibility.

    And for what it's worth, I don't think D/W should have gotten a +3 for their twizzles. Mistake is mistake but then there are some strange rules in the rule book when that kind of mistakes actually don't count, as I've mentioned in the threat about D/W and V/M
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    another photo from Elina https://twitter.com/eelinpaas/status.../photo/1/large

    I love Tessa's hair

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniskates93 View Post
    another photo from Elina https://twitter.com/eelinpaas/status.../photo/1/large

    I love Tessa's hair
    Such Great photos! I see improvement in their FD but I don't know if it will be enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elle123 View Post
    Sorry to be OT but does anyone know why Cappellini Lanotte had the deduction for an illegal element? Was it the lift?
    Another poster suggested that the illegal move was probably the jump that both skaters do at about :42 in this video.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v20vatta6xI

    Illegal Elements/Movements
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    The following elements and movements are illegal in the Short Dance & Free Dance unless otherwise stated in an ISU Communication:
    - Illegal Lift Movement/Pose – see Rule 604, paragraph 16;
    - Jumps (or throw jumps) of more than one (1) revolution or jumps of one (1) revolution skated at the same time by both partners;
    - Lying on the ice.
    http://www.isu.org/vsite/vfile/page/...-0-file,00.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lety View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by *Ice Princess* View Post
    All of this today is so frustating -.-
    I hope that Tessa e Scott could have a great skate tomorrow and hope they could enjoy the moment, forgetting what happened today. They are the REAL detentors of world record!!!

    All the best wishes for them! GO TESSA e SCOTT!! You're the BEST ever, anyway! We love you! Vi amiamo!!! <3
    Aww Princess! It was one of the most kind thing I've read today... Tomorrow I will not be watching it. Anyway maybe it will be better to watch the FD after, more calmly. But I'll be all the time with them in mind and sending positive vibes!
    Thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by Daniskates93 View Post
    another photo from Elina https://twitter.com/eelinpaas/status.../photo/1/large

    I love Tessa's hair
    I LOVE the pics from Elina!!!! *_______________*


    Other wonderful pics from SD
    http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/T...Q0VWnnLM8l.jpg
    http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/T...URZ7dtnjUl.jpg



    And... other practice pics from Elina, WOW!!!
    http://flockler.com/thumbs/1056/tess..._noupscale.jpg
    http://flockler.com/thumbs/1056/tess..._noupscale.jpg
    http://flockler.com/thumbs/1056/tess..._noupscale.jpg


    ____________

    There's nothing to do.... I love these costumes!
    Last edited by *Ice Princess*; 12-07-2013 at 06:57 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by professordeb View Post
    So inquiring minds wish to know your thoughts on the twizzle mistakes of these two:

    V/M's SD at 2013 Worlds http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t46vJL8ABrs go to about the 2:15 mark for where they begin the twizzles

    D/W SD at 2013 GPF http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yStrH3MDEuk where you should go to about the 1:55 mark.

    I look at the two videos and those mistakes look pretty much the same to me. ...
    The difference is in what the regulations require for marking levels on the twizzle sequence.

    In the first video, Scott's first set of twizzles slowed down to 3 turns. Rotations that are 3-turns do not count, so the caller has no choice but to reduce the level.

    In the second clip, the first set of twizzles gets out of unison, but both skaters are still doing twizzles for the necessary rotations to keep the level 4. Unison is not an aspect of determining levels.

    I agree the unison problem should have cost them a bit on GOE, and it looks like most of the judges did give lower GOE than usual for this couple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by parapluies View Post
    Such Great photos! I see improvement in their FD but I don't know if it will be enough.
    Did you saw practice? Any news?
    Thanks you for photos. The first one is so touching :-)
    And during first lift one person in audience have so beautiful smile of joy :-) Amazing.
    Go, Tessa-Scott! Good luck! We.all will skate with you, guys!

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    Well..we're nearly there . May they do what only they can do.. Go guys!

    pani , I hope your nerves are better than mine right now..

    Cheers, everybody.

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    I'm nervous but GO TESSA E SCOTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Very proud of Tessa and Scott today. They were absolutely magnificent. Cheers, guys, you're the best!!!

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    I'm just glad they skated so well and loved their smiles at the end.

    The protocols are up:

    http://www.isuresults.com/results/gp..._FD_Scores.pdf

    TES 54.56
    PCS 57.85
    Total 112.41

    All level 4's except DiSt

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    hm.... they were better for me today...I don't understand the judges....

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