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    Morosov just keeps giving I/K programs which the judges won't go with.
    Maybe it would be good for both The Shibs & I/K to traing side by side.
    It has worked for D/W & V/M. But I really felt that V/M should have changed coaches for this Olympic season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PashaFan View Post
    Morosov just keeps giving I/K programs which the judges won't go with.
    Maybe it would be good for both The Shibs & I/K to traing side by side.
    It has worked for D/W & V/M. But I really felt that V/M should have changed coaches for this Olympic season.
    Problem for V-M is that they should've left earlier. Say, last year? Then again, I am not too sure we would've gotten Carmen if they had. So, yeah, tricky to say. I think V-M should've gone with Lauzon and Dubreuil. After all, they have a good team in Canada, they have a great outside choreographer in Swan, so, I feel that could've worked. Alas. My dream choreographer for them was always Krylova, but the timing was never right.

    As for I-K, I think Igor's teams are struggling a bit? Sure, this could change in the future, but if I were them, I'd pick Anjelika. They could learn so much from her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golightly View Post
    Problem for V-M is that they should've left earlier. Say, last year? Then again, I am not too sure we would've gotten Carmen if they had. So, yeah, tricky to say. I think V-M should've gone with Lauzon and Dubreuil. After all, they have a good team in Canada, they have a great outside choreographer in Swan, so, I feel that could've worked. Alas. My dream choreographer for them was always Krylova, but the timing was never right.

    As for I-K, I think Igor's teams are struggling a bit? Sure, this could change in the future, but if I were them, I'd pick Anjelika. They could learn so much from her.
    I've loved the choreography that Igor's teams have. But the judges don't seem too sure.
    Why did V/M remain with Marina?. I could not trust my coach if their other team was beating me.

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    Loved the TEB short dances!! Four of my five favorite SDs for the year all in one group (VM, IK, PB, ZG)! Can't ask for better than that SB scores all around!! Woo-Hoo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissJD View Post
    Loved the TEB short dances!! Four of my five favorite SDs for the year all in one group (VM, IK, PB, ZG)! Can't ask for better than that SB scores all around!! Woo-Hoo!
    That's what I was going to say !.
    I really enjoyed the top four. I/K marks were so good. Almost touching P/B. Z/G SD is the best they have done but I just wish they would ditch their new FD.
    V/M fantastic as usual.
    The new French couple in the opening group were amazing. Look out C/J next season. They may not get the chance to be French Number 1 when P/B retire.

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    So the TEB podium was a bit shocking! When PB's score posted and that ordinal said "2" I honestly felt a little sick for them. I loove IK (as evidenced by my posts!), but I don't think they should've beaten PB. And I was too sad for PB to be happy for IK, lol. That medal ceremony was painful.

    Anyone else care to share their thoughts/ opinions? I can't be the only one thinking WTF!

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    I really prefer P/B, but thought I/K did really well I am not a skater, so can only go with my gut feeling, and I was impressed by the programme I/K skated today. That said, my heart bleeds for Nathalie and Fabian.

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    P/B got a one point deduction for an extended lift and that one point difference would have put them in the silver position.

    I don't quite get the PCS scores of 9+ for I/K. I thought they were good but not quite that good, high 8s maybe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafter View Post

    Nothing would surprise me I see I/K going to Igors before Marina.
    I hope you're right. I do NOT want to see them go to Marina. What they need at this point in their career is a good technical coach - someone who can clean up their steps and help with their twizzles. That is not Marina IMO.

    Krylova would be a good choice - but she has W/P and I wonder what they would think about training with I/K. For the next cycle they would be in direct competition with one another and when one of them starts being beaten by the rinkmate we are going to have the same comments about the coach throwing one of them under the bus. I know they took P/B, but at that time W/P was Can No 2, while P/B was French No 1, and they were not really competing for the same thing [P/B for 3rd, W/P for top 6 and GPF slot IIRC]. The next 4 years W/P will at least start out as No. 1 and will clearly be aiming for the podium. I/K will certainly want the podium as well. I think with Igor they have a better chance of getting it.

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    I'm really loving V/M, D/W, W/P and I/K this year and that surprised me!
    I think D/W have a better free dance this year and it will carry them to OGM, although I prefer V/M's performance.
    This has made think about Marina as a coach; I wonder what success means to her? Is it producing one team with two Olympic Gold Medals and one team that never got there, or, is it producing two teams that were able to achieve Olympic Gold Medals? She does the best for all her teams but it must be hard to manage that all at in one rink.
    W/P have been my up and coming favourite for a long time now. I think they are contenders as future world champions after D/W and V/M retire. But I see so much in I/K! They have surprised me and I think they will get better. They will be there too.

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    C/L are shining this season. I also like W/P and D/W...but the italians have a very interesting charisma and conection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissJD View Post
    So the TEB podium was a bit shocking! When PB's score posted and that ordinal said "2" I honestly felt a little sick for them. I loove IK (as evidenced by my posts!), but I don't think they should've beaten PB. And I was too sad for PB to be happy for IK, lol. That medal ceremony was painful.

    Anyone else care to share their thoughts/ opinions? I can't be the only one thinking WTF!
    I felt so sorry for them. It's their last TEB & as they were skating I was thinking how beautiful their program was. Yes, I/K were amazing but they was something special about Nathalie & Fabian last night. My jaw dropped when I saw their placing.
    This is a real worry for them with the Olympics less than 4 months away.
    I also have to say that in terms of excitment I/K & P/B were a little ahead of V/M in the free (For me). But they did deserve to win.
    But V/M have real problems too. The judges kinda ditched them last night. I though the program worked better than at Skate Canada (Loved Tessa's new green dress).
    I really can't see anyone other than D/W winning Gold now.
    The Bronze maybe between I/K, P/B & W/P, B/S.
    Next weeks Cup Of Russia will be interesting.
    Still so gutted for Nathalie & Fabian.

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    So I ventured over to the V/M thread for a read and WOW those people are insane.. It's one thing to be a passionate fan, but most seem incapable of admitting truths and remaining respectful. SMDH! I just wish all teams that make it to Sochi do personal best performances they can feel totally satisfied and happy with..

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    Wow indeed. Sure, the "dramatiks" run quite high at times, but to call an entire thread of posters insane seems to be equally dramatik and disrespectful. Feel free to disagree with whomever you wish, but please, do it that thread and not here. There's enough VM and DW discussion everywhere else, and this is a place we can discuss the other deserving dance teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissJD View Post
    Wow indeed. Sure, the "dramatiks" run quite high at times, but to call an entire thread of posters insane seems to be equally dramatik and disrespectful. Feel free to disagree with whomever you wish, but please, do it that thread and not here. There's enough VM and DW discussion everywhere else, and this is a place we can discuss the other deserving dance teams.
    Heck no, I'm not bringing anything specific up! This thread is a breath of fresh air.. Simply pointing out that here there exists a certain level of decorum still which is great.. I'm excited for great dances from everyone!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pani View Post
    I like CJ Tango FD from last season. But this FD really improved since SA so will be interesting how they will skate at ECh.
    Elena is a reall Diva New Pasha
    "New Pasha"-- that's really high praise! You have to have a outer-worldly mental make-up to be a Pasha. I mean, you have to have no moral hesitancy in regards to your actions on and off the ice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ComplimentsFrom View Post
    "New Pasha"-- that's really high praise! You have to have a outer-worldly mental make-up to be a Pasha. I mean, you have to have no moral hesitancy in regards to your actions on and off the ice.
    She date(d? is it over now?) Morozov. That demonstrates lack of moral hesitancy. indeed. Rock it, Elena! Nikita ain't too shabby, either. By far, IMO, the most striking team out there today.

    While I'm here, I'm holding out hope that H/D can grow (she's a diva in the making), and I really enjoy W/P, P/B (((Nathalie))), and C/L. Each brings something distinct and unique to the table. Can't wait until next year when the voidy teams can go back to what they do so well (I/K, looking at YOU).
    THANK YOU Aliona and Robin, Dai, Mao, Carolina, Akiko, all the skaters who retired after the Olympics, and yes, even you Jeremy)!

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    Quote Originally Posted by marmalade View Post
    She date(d? is it over now?) Morozov. That demonstrates lack of moral hesitancy. indeed. Rock it, Elena! Nikita ain't too shabby, either. By far, IMO, the most striking team out there today.

    While I'm here, I'm holding out hope that H/D can grow (she's a diva in the making), and I really enjoy W/P, P/B (((Nathalie))), and C/L. Each brings something distinct and unique to the table. Can't wait until next year when the voidy teams can go back to what they do so well (I/K, looking at YOU).
    What? Pasha dated Morozov? I didn't know that. ...Why am I surprised, Pasha probably dated my mailman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eurodance2001 View Post
    So I ventured over to the V/M thread for a read and WOW those people are insane.. It's one thing to be a passionate fan, but most seem incapable of admitting truths and remaining respectful. SMDH! I just wish all teams that make it to Sochi do personal best performances they can feel totally satisfied and happy with..
    This is why I started this thread. I would go into the V/M & D/W threads & feel like I could not say anything that was not total praise. I like both couples but they don't skate perfect every time. No one does.
    & Hey ! stop the Pasha hate. Yes, she was off her rocker but she made Ice Dance interesting !.

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    I think IK had the free dance of the TEB competition and should have placed above VM. I think Olympic Silver is slipping away from the Canadians . . . not because of any reason other than other teams are simply catching up both technically and artistically.

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