View Poll Results: 2nd Russian ladies spot to Sochi

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    Who will get the 2nd Russian ladies spot to Sochi

    Lets face it. It is obvious Lipnitskaia at this point is going to the Olympics. Who will the other spot be. Sotnikova, Tuktamysheva, or in a big upset someone else.

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    Pogorilaya

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    I don't agree that Julia L. is a lock for a spot on the Russian Olympic team. She still has to skate the rest of the season, including the Russian nationals. I like her chances but she is far from a lock. It will be a dogfight for those 2 spots.

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    Lipnitskaia would have to make mistakes and Sokolova and Tuktamysheva skate cleanly for her to lose a spot on the team. This would have to happen twice at both Russian Nationals and Europeans. Add to that Julia is 95% likely to skate cleanly and they are 0-1% and the odds of that happening are nothing.

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    I like Pogorilaya too. But probably it will be Lipnitskaia and Sotnikova, I think.

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    After seeing what went down at CoC, PoGold is looking good for one of those two spot for Sochi.

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    Pogorilaya is slowly creeping in for the Team

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    Love Pogo and glad she's finally getting the respect she deserves, however, I'd be surprised if she makes the team. With the results of CoC now in the books, however, it's pretty clear that neither Sotnikova or Tuktamysheva will be held up by the international judges if they skate poorly, and that someone like Pogorilaya beating them on the basis of much stronger jumping performances is a distinct possibility considering it already happened. I'm most worried for Tuk, though, because of PCS. Pogo got 56 in the FS, and Tuk's is usually only around that range or slightly (like a couple points) higher, so really she cannot afford to tank the SP because someone like Pogo could wind up beating her if she does. Further, if Pogorilaya continues to skate well, like at TEB and if she makes GPF (I don't expect she will given the field in Paris, however, it is kind of unpredictable, so I could see her finishing 2nd or like 7th depending on how everything shakes out), the PCS will likely go up, she could push 60 in the FS, if that happens, Tuk and Sot need to get it together fast. Even with the program here, Pogo easily gave up around 6 points with the axels, meaning the scoring potential is 125 clean, and could push 130 with a PCS boost. I guess some of it will depend on scoring at Russian Nationals and if Liza and Adelina improve as the season goes on like they did last season, and on whether Lipnitskaya and Pogorilaya can keep their consistency up.

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    Funny how after Worlds there was talk of how Sotnikova and Tuktamysheva were the 2 locks for the 2 women team. Now it is basically conceded there isnt even a hope they will be the 2 women Olympic team together (with Julia all but given 1 of the spots barring injury or a stunning meltdown), and suddenly even talk that it might not be one or the other on the team, but even the possability it will be neither making it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyn View Post
    After seeing what went down at CoC, PoGold is looking good for one of those two spot for Sochi.
    It is a little too soon to say that IMO, but she is creeping into the mix. Still she has no hope of beating Julia right now, and Adelina even skating so poorly still wasnt far from beating her. Tuktamysheva's LPs are scoring way higher than Anna ever has so far. So I wouldnt say she looks good for a spot yet, but if she keeps improving she could have a fighting shot at the 2nd spot behind Julia.

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    I don't believe that Russia will send two 15 year olds to the Olympics. One of the two spots will go to Tuk or Sot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vash01 View Post
    I don't believe that Russia will send two 15 year olds to the Olympics. One of the two spots will go to Tuk or Sot
    The age range of contenders is 15 to 17. I don't see an issue.

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    Imo Julia is a virtual lock for the team. I thought Adelina would get the second spot with Elizaveta as alternate but with Anna's GP win at COC this now gives me pause. We'll have to see how all do at Russian Nat'ls and at Europeans. But I think Julia for sure has one of those spots barring injury. It'll probably be Sotnikova for the second spot and it won't surprize me if Anna is first alternate over Elizaveta.

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    I'm really rooting for a Lipnitskaya/Tuktamysheva team. I've always liked both Sot and Tuk equally and appreciate their respective strengths but I'm really underwhelmed with Adelina's programs this year. However, Tuk MUST start to skate clean SPs and back it up with a strong LP like she has had. It is much easier to skate a great LP when you're in the first group with 53 points opposed to leading the short with 65 points. She needs to do both, starting at her next GP.

    I like Pogo and her mermaid LP is intriguing with some good jumps and footwork but she is still undercooked as a skater. She can only make the team if Tuktamysheva, Sotnikova, and Leonova show little or no improvement (an unfortunate yet possible scenario).

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    Quote Originally Posted by alchemy void View Post
    I like Pogo and her mermaid LP is intriguing with some good jumps and footwork but she is still undercooked as a skater. She can only make the team if Tuktamysheva, Sotnikova, and Leonova show little or no improvement (an unfortunate yet possible scenario).
    Thanks to Tuktamisheva and Sotnikova, they are really helping her. I can't understand why Sotnikova repeating her 3flip and negative GOE 3lutz+3loop.

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    Team Alena Leonova!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vash01 View Post
    I don't believe that Russia will send two 15 year olds to the Olympics. One of the two spots will go to Tuk or Sot
    I would understand this if Adelina and Tukt showed some stability in performances, but neither girl has and both girls have only one year of Senior Championship experience.

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    I would love to see Tuktamisheva go to Sochi as I find her the most complete of the Russian girls.
    I've really enjoyed watching her over the past two years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PashaFan View Post
    I would love to see Tuktamisheva go to Sochi as I find her the most complete of the Russian girls.
    I've really enjoyed watching her over the past two years.
    Me too! I absolutely adore Tukt! She is my favourite of the younger generation of singles skaters.

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    I would wait and see how these four girls do in their second GPs.

    Things are looking good for Lip. But Pog is too much of an unknown compared to Sot, Tuk and Lip. This is Tuk and Sot's 3rd GP season and they have medalled in most of their events - and they medalled at Euros and went to Worlds last season so they are the more established ones. This is Lip's second GP season and she has been medalling in every competition she entered so she is still quite ahead of Pog in terms of exposure and experience.

    I honestly can't imagine a combination of Lip and Pog simply because that would be the least experienced / established combo. They did play around with a less established skater in 1998 (Sokolova) but that's only because they had an extra spot. And I can't imagine they would trust Pog to take part in the team event. Sot and Tuk may be inconsistent but they are probably more reliable score-wise in the short and long respectively. Sot with a UR call on her 3/3 still scored 6 points more than a clean Pog in the short and her 7 tripled free only beat Sot's 4 tripled free with 2 falls by 10 points. Sot's scoring potential is much higher.

    I think the most likely scenario is probably Lip plus Sot or Tuk, whoever bombs less at Nationals or whoever medals at Europeans. The only way I see Pog making the team is if she medals at GPF (which also implies a solid showing at her second GP) and an undeniable win at Nationals. Otherwise I don't even see her making Europeans. Sot has been made into a darling, Tuk is the great technician, and Lip is the flexible doll. They have been marketed for years. At this stage Pog lacks an identity and I just can't see her being sent to the home Olympics to compete in the key event when people barely knew her. I see her back to Jr Worlds with Radionova and the top Russia girl from JGPF.
    Last edited by Marco; 11-04-2013 at 07:02 AM.

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