View Poll Results: Can she medal in Sochi ?

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    I don't think that baby jumping bean has a real shot at a medal unless several top ladies fail badly. She has the jumps and the spins, but artistically she's still far beyond world's best skaters. She's a kid and cannot possibly match presentation of 20-something year olds, such as Mao, Yuna, Carolina or Ashley. She doesn't have their skating skills either. I honestly think that, as much as she knows how to move beautifully, she's not fully capable of interpreting, I mean really interpreting the music yet. She doesn't have the flow of those other skaters either.

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    If Julia can skate 2 clean programs at Sochi and Top 3 makes mistakes, I think she will strike the podium.

    But with Julia, it's the next cycle and 2018 Pyeongchang -- Julia v. Gracie could potentially be the next Yuna v. Mao -- with Zijun Li also possibly in the mix. It seems to me that the future of figure skating is bright.

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    ^ It all depends on if Mr. puberty decides to play nice or not with the girls, doesn't it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by orbitz View Post
    ^ It all depends on if Mr. puberty decides to play nice or not with the girls, doesn't it.
    I get the feeling that Julia's birthday was perfectly timed, not in terms of her parents. But more in terms of peaking for Sochi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vash01 View Post
    I expect Yu na to be fully prepared. I don't see Julia winning the gold but a silver or bronze is not out of the question if she continues to skate great and delvers two clean performances in Sochi. If she actually wins (a near impossibility, IMO because it would require a ton of skaters to have a melt down), it would be a Sarah Hughes moment, rather than a Tara Lipinski moment.

    In any case, this was just one competition. Let us see how she skates rest of the season. BTW has Julia gone through puberty already?
    She's grown taller but she still have the body of a little girl and at 15 she might shoot up another 2-3 inches and her body will continue to change so this might be as good as it gets for Julia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by love_skate2011 View Post
    this looks a bit deja vu to me, Can Julia pull a Tara Lipinski ? she looks to regain her 2011 form
    can she sneak a medal in Sochi ?
    Lip#2 will be like Lip#1....Lip-Lip, Hooray! Timing of birth is everything. Glad that someone will be able to use the 'birth rule' to her advantage. Radionova not so lucky.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaia View Post
    -- ....Julia v. Gracie could potentially be the next Yuna v. Mao -- with Zijun Li also possibly in the mix. .....
    Julia's Olympics is now (2014). Gracie will be long-gone by 2018. Zijun Li, skating in a socialist milieu, will definitely push-on to 2018.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frau Muller View Post
    Zijun Li, skating in a socialist milieu, will definitely push-on to 2018.
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    So far Lipnitskaia has been super consistent this season. If she continues skating like this, she'll probably end up winning.

    Yes, her skating is far from perfect but Asada cheats her jumps, Kim is a big unknown at this point and Kostner and Gold just aren't consistent enough.

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    I find the Lipnitskaya love to be baffling, frankly, and I'm sorry if this was a cheer thread. She skates w/ less command than a lot of other top elite, senior ladies and that's fine. She's very young and very talented. I just don't think it's all there yet. The scores are jaw-dropping.

    I do think the Russian Fed. is hedging its bets on her due to Sotnikova's and Tuktamysheva's inconsistencies. I expect her to be a threat not because her skating is great but because the Olympics are in Sochi and they will politick the hell out of who they probably consider their #1 lady right now.

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    Team medal more possible.

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    olympic - Yeah, she does get more PCS than she should given her weaknesses but at this point, she is consistently landing her jumps whilst none of the other Ladies are. So she might not need a lot of politicking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elif View Post
    Team medal more possible.
    This is all I care about, honestly, so if Julia is able to help Team Russia (& more importantly Evgeni Plushenko; knock on wood) win a Team Medal in the first ever Olympic Team Event, and most importantly first Winter Olympics ever to be held in Russia, I"m happy! She can become the first Russian lady ever to win an Olympic Gold Medal as well as the second youngest in history (behind Tara Lipinski, who's birthday is June 10th versus Julia's June 5th).

    I find it kinda funny in how much they have in common (similar last names & birthdates & body types). And Julia is born under a lucky star to be able to compete at the Olympics at age 15, just making the cutoff date, unlike Mao Asada. It really has to do with a great deal of talent but also an equal portion of luck. It's all in the stars, astrology.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggy View Post
    olympic - Yeah, she does get more PCS than she should given her weaknesses but at this point, she is consistently landing her jumps whilst none of the other Ladies are. So she might not need a lot of politicking.
    Julia's Personal Best is now higher than Kostner's personal best...She may very well be closer to the podium than we think she is... Kostner and Asada both are better skaters, but they will need to land their stuff, and there is no guarantee they will.

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    I don't think she will win, but she could come 2nd or 3rd if Mao and Carolina don't skate that well. I have a feeling she'll end up more in the range of 4th-6th though. She may get a bit more nervous at an Olympics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue_idealist View Post
    I don't think she will win, but she could come 2nd or 3rd if Mao and Carolina don't skate that well. I have a feeling she'll end up more in the range of 4th-6th though. She may get a bit more nervous at an Olympics.
    That's absolutely true too. Its the Olympics and she has no big international competition experience.

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    I'm sure that she cannot beat Yu Na. Mao, given she's not doing clean programs with all the jumps it's possible. If Kim has a meltdown, this girl could be the champion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bek View Post
    That's absolutely true too. Its the Olympics and she has no big international competition experience.
    She's been competing at Russian senior Nationals since she was 12 and she's been competing internationally as a Junior since she was 13.

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    She has a chance to medal but she'd need mistakes for others. With her 2 perfect programs, Julia was still 5 points under Mao's score from SA, and that was put up with Mao skating conservatively and making a number of mistakes. Kostner and Kim have even higher PCS than Asada and can get more GOE on their jumps, so most likely, if Lipnitskaya were to skate like she did at SC, I'd say she'd wind up 4th at the Olympics. But if she skates a blinder and one of the big 3 falters, then she could definitely medal. To win gold, all 3 would have to falter, and when I say falter I mean would have to make multiple sizeable errors if Mao's SA score is anything to judge upon. So that's really unlikely, though not entirely out of the realms of possibility, especially with the event being in Russia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by love_skate2011 View Post
    this looks a bit deja vu to me, Can Julia pull a Tara Lipinski ? she looks to regain her 2011 form
    can she sneak a medal in Sochi ?
    More like a Sarah Hughes than a Tara Lipinski. Lipinski was co-favorite for 1998 OGM. Hughes had technically ambitious programs but was really only considered in the mix for silver/bronze and, at best, a pretty dark horse for gold, which is why her victory was so distressing surprising.

    I think Lipnitskaia is kind of like Hughes -- technical goods to win gold if the three anointed ones fail. Also like Hughes, she would be looking to accomplish it on home soil.
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