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    When would anyone spare a few dimes to hire a real technical specialist or ex-judge to commentate? For example, David Santee is not an stranger to figure skating viewers past a certain age. His live commentary at US Nationals (on Skate Radio) is pretty good, and he is funny and entertaining as well.

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    I thought Johnny did a great job. He's funny and personable and he was able to explain why people are still credited even when they fall which no one else has done. He explained quite a lot actually. For fans who only join in during an Olympic year I think that'll make him a great asset to NBC and figure skating in general. Also his familiarity with the skaters allows him to add some personal anecdotes like the adorable Poohdium comment he made. I can't wait to hear him again.

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    Just being a tech specialist doesn't make a great color analyst, Jun Y. No reflection on Santee who is good at both. Johnny has the advantage of not only being witty and insightful, but also of knowing the current skaters so well having competed against many of them under this judging system.

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    EXACTLY!! Johnny's comentary has always been clever, insightful, and most of all, honest without being demeaning-a characteristic that would do well in ANY media connected to a sport like Figure Skating. Fall as they may, there will never be a man, woman, or team that would say "I came here to lose, so fifth place is right where I wanted to be.." Johnny has the sensitivity and presence of mind NOT to throw comments out there that will be hurtful to others. His critiques are funny as well as clever. I canot wait to see what he does with "Trankov'sPants!!!!"
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    I think that despite his come back last year not being the one he nor his fans wanted, at least he had the courage to actually get on the ice at a grand prix and try. That is a lot more than many other "comeback" skaters ever do.
    ITA!

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    I thought Johnny Weir did a very creditable job with his commentary and analysis. He was clear spoken, fair, and eloquent. He has such a lively personality and he keeps the broadcast interesting. I love him in this role! Go Johnny, be good! I love that Johnny actually tries to give deep insights into the skaters and their programs and he gives really good explanations as to why an element did or did not go well. That's actually a little problem I have with Tara's commentary is that she's too simple and basic and sort of glosses over the issues that a skater has. I'd like her commentary to be a little more technical and knowledgeable.

    However, I did feel that Terry Gannon was questioning Johnny too much during the skaters' programs and it was a little distracting trying to hear the music. I think they should try to stick with sparse comments during the performance and then maybe address more thought provoking questions after the program ends when the skaters are taking their bows, leaving the ice, the broadcast is showing element replays, and the skaters are receiving their marks in the kiss and cry.

    All in all though, I found Johnny and Terry to be a pleasant team.
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    Terry Gannon has such powerful clear voice and manner of speaking. It does give the program more of a "Sport" vibe, in that he is a professional broadcaster/commentator.
    Sometimes some of the newer ones, such as Tara, kind of speak in a different manner and tone than what the pro broadcasters/announcers do. For the behind the scenes and online commentating I imagine that is ok, but for the big broadcasts it seems better having a trained professional broadcaster on board too.
    Anyway all the relevant input and insights the commentators give out are interesting. Sometimes for those who watch a lot, we hear some of the same back story repeatedly, but I imagine the producers want that for the newer viewers.
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    Really hoping some videos appear. I really like Johnny's commentary - I mean, he talks too much, but so do most of them. And at least he usually stays focused on the skater who is actually on the ice, unlike some commentators who will happily talk about every other skater in existence EXCEPT the one on the ice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChelleC View Post
    That's exactly what I thought. Nice to have commentary from someone who actually understands the system.
    As I listened to Johnny, I imagined I was one of those casual skating fans who tunes in mainly for the Olympics and doesn't really understand the ins and outs of the sport. I thought Johnny did an excellent job of explaining it all, plus he knows the skaters personally and was able to describe what they're like. He was also able to add little details for the dedicated fans who do know the ins and outs of the sport.

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    My favorite Johnny comment during the SC broadcast was when he explained a popped jump:

    "The body says 'no,' like throwing a cat into a bathtub."
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    I totally enjoyed listening to Johnny! "Yuzuru on the Poohdium" -

    Always thrilled to hear Terry's voice!

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    Yes, I too loved Johnny's description of a popped jump: "Like trying to throw a cat into a bathtub ... NO!"

    Johnny was very good I thought, and it was lovely to hear Terry Gannon's voice. I suppose they were in the States in a studio doing the broadcast perhaps? In any case, part of the commentating duties seems to be filling the air. It doesn't hurt to let there be silences to enjoy the skating. I think they do try, but I'm sure this is a difficult task that we don't understand that much unless we are faced with doing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aftershocks View Post
    Yes, I too loved Johnny's description of a popped jump: "Like trying to throw a cat into a bathtub ... NO!"

    Johnny was very good I thought, and it was lovely to hear Terry Gannon's voice. I suppose they were in the States in a studio doing the broadcast perhaps? In any case, part of the commentating duties seems to be filling the air. It doesn't hurt to let there be silences to enjoy the skating. I think they do try, but I'm sure this is a difficult task that we don't understand that much unless we are faced with doing it.
    I think all of the Grand Prix outside of US is done from a studio. Canada is potentially a "live" visit, but the rest of it is them just watching the tapes.

    Unlike others I think you will have Scott and Sandra for the big events. I hate to say this, but I think NBC doesn't use them for the GP only for $$$$. I think they get more cash then probably Johnny and Tara, for example.

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    From his tweets that I posted earlier in this thread, I believe Weir taped his Skate Canada commentary in NBC's NYC studio overnight (early morning hours) this past Sunday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvia View Post
    From his tweets that I posted earlier in this thread, I believe Weir taped his Skate Canada commentary in NBC's NYC studio overnight (early morning hours) this past Sunday.
    I guess Scott and Sandra don't work those hours

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyWarhol View Post
    I think that despite his come back last year not being the one he nor his fans wanted, at least he had the courage to actually get on the ice at a grand prix and try. That is a lot more than many other "comeback" skaters ever do.
    Yeah, I think he deserves massive props for competing at Finlandia and at least trying in the GP. I also thought his comments when he stopped competing LAST year were quite mature and eloquent (he essentially stated that he wasn't where he wanted to be, competitively, and was going to work towards getting there).

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    Johnny Weir is an extraordinarily wonderful skating analyst! I was quite impressed. More - more - more!!!

    As for Scott & Sandra missing this: Knowing 24 hrs before the telecast that a big NBC favorite had placed 'only' 3rd, they easily ceded their thrones to 'The B Team' (Terry & Tara...who, to me, are really the A Team...Weir a part of that A Team too).
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    Johnny Weir joining NBC as skating analyst

    Wonder who will be commentating this weekend besides Johnny?

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    I very much enjoyed Weir's commentary - thoughtful, funny, and enough technical remarks to be credible. He's got a charming voice and manner.

    I get bored with Lipinski's endless references to herself, her (short) career as the young phenom, when talking about other young phenoms, how she can relate to how nervous to skaters are in competition. I believe that she knows her stuff, but she doesn't show it often.

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    ^^ Lipinski's not too bad, but there is room for improvement. I think Terry was very generous with her. At a couple of points in their commentary on the ladies, Terry was giving Lipinski props (e.g., saying that Tara started the trend of very young skaters competing in Seniors -- of course that's not exactly true. Maybe the props go to Sonja Henie as one of the first, if not the first youngest ladies competitor? Also, Michelle Kwan competed for the first time at Senior Nats at the age of 12 in 1993, and she competed for the first time at Worlds in 1994 at the age of 13).

    It was also a bit contradictory when Lipinski said she was so surprised by Christina Gao. The surprise really was last year, in my estimation, with Christina having a real breakthrough competitively, even though USFS ignored Christina's improvements by the time Nats rolled around (keeping her in 5th place). I think Lipinski was also contradictory in saying that Christina did better domestically than internationally (proven wrong by the fact that Christina did well internationally last season and was a last minute substitute at the Grand Prix Final due to her good showing on the senior GP).

    In any case, it's easy to nitpick. Overall, I think Johnny, Tara and Terry are a great team (especially Terry and Johnny).

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    I really enjoyed Johnny Weir commentary, insightful, informative and with fun touches here and there. I thought he seemed a little shy at first but then he got on the rhythm Gannon had set and it went smoothly. By the way, Terry Gannon is always great. I didn't care for Tara one way or the other, I didn't find her (or her voice) annoying but I didn't think her commentary was useful either.

    I wonder what the casual NBC Sunday afternoon viewer likes/wants/expects from a figure skating competition broadcast.

    They're a good team, definitely much better than NBC's main team. It was disappointing that NBC decided to ignore ice dancing, considering a US team got a medal, they could have shown Hubbell/Donohue, even without "expert" commentary.

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