Do I wish they would have skated to more modern pieces Eleanor Rigby style throughout their career? I totally do. I was waiting for another ER for years and it never came and it does leave me with a little bit of bitterness. But on the other hand, I can just tell Shez is their music by the way they interpret it. I was not convinced at first, but in some cases it is the skating that makes you come around, not the music. I did not want them to skate to it, but they do and I'm loving it so much. It's definitely one of the best FDs they've had, if not the best one. I don't care if the music has already been used in skating. they feel it big time and I am sure as the season progresses we will see more and more of a soul put into it. In Sochi they will skate their hearts out, that I am sure of and simply cannot wait.
Besides, creativity-wise I still think Tessa and Scott's FD is even less.
And finally, P/B have been creative most of the time lately and look where it got them. Instead of being top contenders for the Sochi bronze, they are now named as the ones with the smallest chances of all the world's best teams.
The new programs are amazing. The things they can do are just out of this world. I get sweaty palms watching them do all the difficult stuff NOW so I think I'm going to have a heart attack during Olympics!
The only thing I was trying to figure out were the costumes, like some of you here, I thought the colours didn't go too well. After looking around the web on Scheh ballets and most of the time the female lead was in variations of blue. Also, take a look at this pose. Just lovely...
Thanks to everyone for the video links, appreciate it so much. We don't get any winter sport coverage here...
I did not know that this seasons FD music was a dance they had always dreamed of skating to. (British Eurosport tell you NOTHING !).
Also, I totally agree with you about P/B. I think their creative programes have come back to bite them in the bum. I LOVED their Rolling Stones free last season & had Meryl & Charlie or Tessa & Scott did that it would have been thought of as a classic.
COnsidering how competent and strong Virtue&Moir are - such things are insulting to them.
As of March 2013 - no longer scared of TAHbKA or Andrey aka Pushkin
I have to say that I see something special in every Ice Dance couple (I think I'm getting old !).
Don't think this was linked to yet: http://espn.go.com/espnw/news-commen...s-winning-pair
I just love learning a little bit more about Charlie and Meryl from their moms, Jacqui and Cheryl. Makes me love D/W more...and of course, their supportive, loving, smart moms. It would be a sad day as a fan when D/W decide to retire as competitive skaters.
Re their programs, I love both of them. I could see more room for improvement...meaning...super programs come Olympics. In the icenetwork article, Charlie mentioned about the glitch in the FD spin and I see that he missed catching Meryl's foot at the beginning of the spin. Watch Oleg's reaction...
But given how long it took for the "old" skaters to adjust to the new judging system/how difficult it was for them, I'm not sure I'd agree with the fact that they're far more better skaters. They're different skaters with different strength because they skated in a very different era and had a very different focus.
I loved D&W's FD (haven't seen the SD yet) at SA. This is only the start of the season. I hope it develops into a great program, I hope they skate great, and I hope they win the OGM in Sochi.
So would Charlie wear yellow pants? They are in this season..."He's pretty good about wearing whatever we tell him to wear now," Cheryl said. "He won't accept purple pants, that's one thing that's out. No purple pants, I know that. And he doesn't like brown."
I wasn't going to comment on this, because obviously I'm a D/W and some will write this off as just bias, but I feel the choreography of Scheherazade is very different from what they've done. It's more complex, there is more variation. When you look at POTO, Prince Igor, and even ND, you can see where the criticism on them being a fast powerful team, and that's all, might come from. In this piece you have light forthy parts, like in Giselle, you have smooth elegant parts, like in DF, you have power, you've seen in the dramatic pieces before this, and their edges and quality of skating has improved by leaps and bounds. They're practically floating in some places. The step sequences also look a lot more different.
It's the Olympics, I expected them to come back to this genre, but they really stepped it up. I can see everything they've done since Vancouver adding up. It's the complete package and it takes you through a story. It even distracts from the formulaic required elements.
The SD is the SD. It's beautifully skated, I like the song, but it's not a master piece. I think those will be few and far between. The SD is half compulsory dance and that has it's limitations. With that said I really enjoyed watching Chock/Bates and the Shibs. I think the Shibs have the best transition into the finnstep so far. It just starts without a change in the music or tons of preparation and I like how upbeat the music is the entire time for Chock/Bates. It will be a nice break from all the slow.
I think you have to appreciate programs for what they are within context and I saw a lot of good programs out there...more so than train wrecks, so I'm going to enjoy watching this season in spite of the finnstep. We new about the finnstep a long time ago, it's also an Olympic season, so we knew there wouldn't be a ton of risk. I'm not going to pretend to be shocked. This isn't my first rodeo .
Does anyone else think they would benefit from just slowing down a little ?. Especially on the lifts.
Judges like speed. And like literaryfreak said, the lifts are timed.
Also, not everyone feels that way. I absolutely hated the old style. When I was younger I completely skipped over and disregarded ice dance because it was a joke to me. As a young dancer you'd think I'd gravitate to it more, like I do now, but I didn't. It was unathletic, it was all show and no substance to me. I do wish they would loosen up on some of the requirements for more creativity, but otherwise I prefer it.
For example, the SD having both a compulsory sequence and a step sequence, plus twizzles and a lift, leaves almost no room for anything else. I'd also like to see more step sequence options for the FD. It would make judging harder, but it would be nice if a team could do a midline and circular, or a diagonal and circular non touching etc. And if timing wasn't so restrictive in lifts...oh and if they'd stop restricting lift positions too. Yes, some lifts are risky, but as long as pairs exists that isn't really a valid argument to me.
Besides, I think they've already slowed down - and it's a good thing. They're not rushing and running through their programs anymore, like they did in the past. Which is also why I am totally when I STILL see people (VM fans mostly) using this same old criticism this year.
I've even seen the "lack of control" argument again. I mean, really? They're so much IN control right now I don't think it's even possible to have more of it.
I mean, I get DW might not be your cup of tea, but seing these arguments today makes me
On another note, I've rewatched the SD a couple of times already and I must say the dress is really growing on me. I love it, all of it actually. It moves beautifully, the back is stunning, but the front is pretty as well. The color is to die for