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    Good luck to our JR World team tomorrow!! Remember that Icenetwork is showing it live starting at 7:00 AM Eastern (subscription required).

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    First of all let's all pray the Madison get's back to 100% for next season. Cartilage, and its supporting bone and nourishment is very difficult to treat and deal with, both physically and also mentally - sort of like watching grass grow. Glad to hear that Physical Therapy has started and she is recovering well. Expect to see her home and at DSC very soon.
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    Hawayek and Baker just scored 66.73 for their SP at Jr. Worlds. I know we can't compare competition-to-competition, but this score would put them in the top echelon of US senior teams. It is higher than Chock/Bates and the Shibs season's best scores. Could we see a changing of the guard next year?

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    Excellent showing by all 3 U.S. teams - 1st, 3rd and 4th after the SD!
    1 Kaitlin HAWAYEK / Jean-Luc BAKER USA 66.73 (new ISU PB/SB) 36.86 29.87 7.54 7.18 7.46 7.61 7.50 0.00 #25
    3 Lorraine MCNAMARA / Quinn CARPENTER USA 58.65 (new ISU PB/SB) 32.00 26.65 6.79 6.46 6.68 6.68 6.68 0.00 #23
    4 Rachel PARSONS / Michael PARSONS USA 58.08 31.65 26.43 6.71 6.39 6.68 6.68 6.57 0.00 #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by toddlj View Post
    Hawayek and Baker just scored 66.73 for their SP at Jr. Worlds. I know we can't compare competition-to-competition, but this score would put them in the top echelon of US senior teams. It is higher than Chock/Bates and the Shibs season's best scores. Could we see a changing of the guard next year?
    I don't see them beating Chock/Bates, but they could surpass Aldridge/Eaton.

    It will be interesting to see if any of these teams make coaching changes. Krylova's camp seems particularly full.

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    Quote Originally Posted by her grace View Post
    I don't see them beating Chock/Bates, but they could surpass Aldridge/Eaton.

    It will be interesting to see if any of these teams make coaching changes. Krylova's camp seems particularly full.
    I absolutely think they could pass Chock and Bates. Maybe not by this time next year, but possibly by 2016. H/B definitely could pass the Shibs by Nationals next year if the Shibs stay in. So much will depend on the Grand Prix scores.

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    Best of luck to our junior teams! That's a great result after the SD. It'll definitely be interesting to see how things play out with teams moving up to the senior level in the fall.

    Just so long as Hubbell/Donohue make their way to the top and stay there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reese View Post
    I absolutely think they could pass Chock and Bates. Maybe not by this time next year, but possibly by 2016
    I could see them passing Chock/Bates eventually. I certainly don't think there's going to be a changing of the guard next season, which is the question I answered. Hawayek/Baker are a fine junior team with excellent junior results. Still, there's no need to rush to anoint them senior national champions. Chock/Bates, Hubbell/Donohue, the Shibs, and Aldridge/Eaton are strong teams, too, and will be formidable competition for Hawayek/Baker.

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    I think C/B have great potential after seeing how far they've come in a few years together. They have a beautiful presence on the ice and wonderful chemistry. I know I'm in the minority, but I hope they rise to the top and kick a$$ for many years to come!
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    Tweeted by USFS just now: "For the first time ever, the U.S. is home to the current Olympic champs, World champs and World Junior champs in ice dance!"

    Congratulations to Kaitlin Hawayek & Jean-Luc Baker, 2014 World Junior champions!
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    Lorraine McNamara/Quinn Carpenter finish in 4th (just over one point from 3rd) and the Parsons siblings place 8th in their JW debut.
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    Lynn Rutherford just reported that the ISU dance committee is thinking of one fewer lifts in the FD for next season.
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    A great day for US Ice Dance. Lovely FD from H/B, so very happy for them!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by her grace View Post
    I could see them passing Chock/Bates eventually. I certainly don't think there's going to be a changing of the guard next season, which is the question I answered. Hawayek/Baker are a fine junior team with excellent junior results. Still, there's no need to rush to anoint them senior national champions. Chock/Bates, Hubbell/Donohue, the Shibs, and Aldridge/Eaton are strong teams, too, and will be formidable competition for Hawayek/Baker.
    Hawayek and Baker's new 157.12 SB is a bit behind that of the Shibs (157+), Hubbel/Donohue (158+) and Chock/Bates (164+). They are however quite a bit ahead of Aldridge/Eaton's 144.95. It will be interesting to see all five of these teams next season, and see how it plays out.

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    H/B's SD and FD are on youtube already: they looked fantastic! Very promising. I'm excited to watch this couple grow!

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    Quote Originally Posted by toddlj View Post
    Hawayek and Baker's new 157.12 SB is a bit behind that of the Shibs (157+), Hubbel/Donohue (158+) and Chock/Bates (164+). They are however quite a bit ahead of Aldridge/Eaton's 144.95. It will be interesting to see all five of these teams next season, and see how it plays out.
    I thought it was interesting in the Icenetwork post-FD article that Hawayek/Baker said they hadn't decided yet if they were moving to senior next year. I still assume they will; they will have a good shot at the World team.

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    Congratulations to H/B on their World Jr. Championship title! The US has a wonderful future.


    Quote Originally Posted by toddlj View Post
    Hawayek and Baker's new 157.12 SB is a bit behind that of the Shibs (157+), Hubbel/Donohue (158+) and Chock/Bates (164+). They are however quite a bit ahead of Aldridge/Eaton's 144.95. It will be interesting to see all five of these teams next season, and see how it plays out.
    Just as comparing scores competition against competition does nothing, neither does comparing scores from JR to SR level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hockeyplayer2 View Post
    Just as comparing scores competition against competition does nothing, neither does comparing scores from JR to SR level.
    Like it or not, SB scores are used to determine who gets on the GP, despite the fact that they are from different competitions. So, I agree with you that the comparison doesn't necessarily tell us a lot about the future; but they do matter.
    Last edited by toddlj; 03-15-2014 at 05:52 PM.

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    They definitely matter for GP placements, but I don't think you can compare them directly to C/B or the Shibs. I mean, look how much more difficult the quickstep pattern is for the senior teams.

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    East Aurora Produces World Junior Figure Skating Champion [Kaitlin Hawayek] - local New York news story: http://www.wgrz.com/story/news/local...mpion/6477605/
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