With Russia, they can easily split the programs for their pairs, ice dance and (maybe) ladies. With the US, it'd be dance, (maybe) pairs, (maybe) men, (maybe) ladies. With Canada, it'd be dance, pairs, (maybe) men, and (maybe) ladies.
Shame more on the ISU/IOC for caving in - again, what would they be without the athletes, who they should be PROTECTING not selling out to the highest bidder! I know that $$ makes the world go round, but honestly, what could NBC POSSIBLY have threatened them with?? Not airing those events during the Olympics? Not likely. The US is pretty much a shoo-in for a medal, and anyone who's seen the London coverage will know they'd cut out enough foreign competitors to make room for the Americans when that's the case. Threaten to not extend their regular season broadcast contracts? Again, doubtful. They already air so little as it is, and I highly doubt they'd refrain from negotiating a better price in the future just because the ISU catered to them this time. Besides, it's not like that network is brimming with ratings successes these days lined up just itching to take the place of the little skating broadcasts (and even less the more popular sports under the purview of the IOC) they do. IMO the IOC has much greater leverage than NBC (aka the network being saved by its sports programing) these days. I'm sure there were loads of bts shenanigans that we don't know about at play, but until all that comes to light, I'm of the opinion that they should've just called NBC's bluff. Epicfail.
On a separate note, I really don't understand the rationale behind the team skating event (honestly thought it was a joke when I first heard it). I don't think it's at all comparable to other Olympic team events, where the atheletes are still competing in the same disciplines - offering and being evaluated for the same skill sets. Team relays (track, speed skating, swimming, etc.) are a given, though arguably the team medley in swimming comes closest to Team Skating (but still, swimming is swiming aka moving forward in water, and I'm sure any swimmer at the Olympics can swim all the different styles even if they may not excel at each). Yes there are apparatus specialists in gymnastics, and not everyone on the team competes in each apparatus rotation, but if need be each team member IS capable of filling in for one another. That's just NOT the case in skating - I fail to see how the ice dancers would be able to do a pairs program, and likewise between all these disciplines.
The skating team event is more the equivalent of a gymnastics "team" competition consisting of the men's and women's teams for both artistic AND rhythmic gymnastics, plus the trampoliners, and I really can't see that being allowed at the OG, ever. These would all make for cool entertaining casual competitions (like the WTT), but in the context of the Olympics, it just doesn't seem fair/right (and borderline comical).
Anyway, in happier news, at least Greco-Roman Wrestling is back in the Olys
Not completely sure why they couldn't move the ladies events as they are currently on a Wed & Thurs. (other than it's too late for this Olympics). Really hope they change the schedule for 2018. They could even advertise the team event as a way to see the individual champions again. In addition, other than the 21st, none of the short track sessions go that far in the evening. I guess they would run into how much they could technically air on tv on a single night being an issue.
Would love the schedule to be more like:
2/19 Team shorts
2/20 Team Longs
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the US media is historically the reason the Olympics has become the huge event that it is. Television rights are pretty costly and the IOC probably holds everyone's hands to the fire in negotiating contracts. The viewers won't lose but the skaters sure will. I really wonder how the countries with the strongest teams - US, Canada, Russia - will balance the desire for the team gold medal with the skaters desire for an individual medal. I can see where they might be leaned on to compete two programs.
Pretty much.I despise the team event. Should have taken synchro instead. It cheapens the individual medals, while catering to the kiss-kiss, everyone becomes BFF's mentality that has hurt the sport in developing rivalries and personalities in recent years.
If we want the Olympics to continue, it takes money. Lots and lots of money. Right now, the majority of that money is coming from the U. S. media.
As for the schedule, the team event has issues whether it's at the beginning or at the end. When it's at the beginning, the ladies are at a disadvantage as many of them either come late or leave the Olympic city to train in a less stressful environment. If it's at the end, some skaters have to stay longer than they normally would. If you put the team event in the middle (between Men's and Dance) that presents it's own issues. I think the beginning is as good a time as any.
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Maybe they will consider putting it at the end next time, and using the individual events as qualifiers, then take the top 6 teams and have a final round of sorts.
They would have to identify the 10 teams under consideration prior to the games, though, so that teams which had only qualified in two disciplines but had earned enough as a country to be in the top 10 could bring their skater or team so that they were represented in 3 disciplines.
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I wish the team event was on the end of the schedule so that the skaters could do their best in their individual events in Sochi. Judo has been doing the team event and it's been on the end of the schedule. On the other hand, first of all I wish they had Synchronized event in stead of the team event to expand the range of the sport. Maybe it's difficult for the reason of costs, though.
^I was just about to post a similar thing. It seemed so weird to have medal finals in gymnastics, for example, starting at 10am and such.
I can see it now - two days of NBC promoting Gracie Gold before the traditional events occur (assuming she makes the team).That's why I'll be holed-up in Canada during the entire Olympics. FREEDOM from NBC's agenda!
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“I have not failed. I’ve just found 10,000 ways that won’t work.” ~ Thomas A. Edison
If the US controls the media coverage, as claimed; why is what we get mostly non-existent?