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    I know you can lose levels with very minor errors that the technical specialists are watching for like a free foot down in a spin, split second hesitation in grabbing a skate etc. - but I am confused if that is all that accounts for the lower marks. I keep wondering about the Canadian high performance camp and what goes on there. Surely, especially in an Olympic year, they have their best, most knowledgeable dance judges in attendance and giving feedback. Skate Canada is a very strong federation and must have their ear to the ice - so to speak - on what the current trends and feelings are in ice dance. I believe teams from other countries have scrapped whole programs after feedback from pre-competition camps. I like to think that Tessa and Scott did Funny Face and Carmen because they wanted to challenge themselves and show different sides to their personalities and skating. This year they wanted to go back to the more traditional, classic style they have been synonimous with. I am never sure where Marina falls in all of this with the two top teams - but Skate Canada??? I had really hoped we were going into a season where they had to make few changes in either dances -just get them faster and smoother.
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    What ever happened to own the podium?

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    Quote Originally Posted by parapluies View Post
    What ever happened to own the podium?
    http://ownthepodium.org

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    Heh.

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    Anyone who thinks V&M are closer to C&B in ability and not D&W clearly don't know a bloody thing about ice dance and figure skating in general. It may be an opinion but it's a stupid ignorant opinion.

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    Tessa and Scott need to leave Canton for any chance this season (whatever miniscule chance they have left). If Marina loves them she would tell them to go elsewhere.
    "They’re everything in a team that we strive to be...they are to me the quintessential ice dance team of our time."~Kaitlyn Weaver

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmcg View Post
    Anyone who thinks V&M are closer to C&B in ability and not D&W clearly don't know a bloody thing about ice dance and figure skating in general. It may be an opinion but it's a stupid ignorant opinion.
    Never did I say anything about their abilities. What I see is Marina putting them #2 on her list.

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    So - apparently in the press conference Scott and Tessa acknowledged both dances still need work - they had a very hard time choosing the music for their free dance and this is cut #23 - and it is still to be edited. Maybe that shines some light on the alleged comments in the K & C - who knows?
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    Never thought I'd say this, but do you think V/M would benefit by having more bits of stasis in the FD? They glide beautifully, but non-stop motion does create a bit of sameness after a while.

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    [QUOTE=tonkatwofeather;4010857]All this talk of montage makes me nervous. . . QUOTE]

    Oh, Tonka, you really are a twit sometimes. Truly!

    No "montage" here, silly boy. Just vintage V&M -- Dancing their hearts out. Beautifully.

    "Own the podium"? Well, time will tell, I suppose. But this program, together with their awesome SD, will certainly stake a claim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Happy123 View Post
    Never thought I'd say this, but do you think V/M would benefit by having more bits of stasis in the FD? They glide beautifully, but non-stop motion does create a bit of sameness after a while.
    Before this season, I was thinking that showcasing their speed and flow would have been a good choice, because some people seemed to think that was lacking in Carmen. I don't know anymore. It seems that no matter what they do, it's the wrong decision.

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    Yup. Damned if they do, damned if they don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cherub721 View Post
    Before this season, I was thinking that showcasing their speed and flow would have been a good choice, because some people seemed to think that was lacking in Carmen. I don't know anymore. It seems that no matter what they do, it's the wrong decision.
    That was what I thought too :/

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    I recall this discussion on coach change all last season. I don't see why if V/M are content under her direction, they would change. After all, the music they choose to dance to is harder to create a particular vision? Unlike Carmen/FF. They would certainly benefit by collaborating with another choreographer(s) (like they did for SD) to add more details and freshness to some of their dance moves in present FD. I've watched it a few times since my last post. It does have a good backbone (as some of you stated)...it just screams Marina's...not bad per se, just need fresh eyes and feel...

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    Quote Originally Posted by puglover View Post
    So - apparently in the press conference Scott and Tessa acknowledged both dances still need work - they had a very hard time choosing the music for their free dance and this is cut #23 - and it is still to be edited. Maybe that shines some light on the alleged comments in the K & C - who knows?
    Ah. As lovely as the music is there are bits of it that doesn't quite feel right yet. The cuts between the slow and the fast sections feel a bit jarring... hopefully later edits will smooth the transition out a bit. I look forward to watching this program's evolution

    Just rewatched the fd. Like Mahler and Valse Triste, I think it is one of those programs that no other team can skate to. The final pose makes me a little sad... it's like a goodbye.

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    Quote Originally Posted by puglover View Post
    So - apparently in the press conference Scott and Tessa acknowledged both dances still need work - they had a very hard time choosing the music for their free dance and this is cut #23 - and it is still to be edited. Maybe that shines some light on the alleged comments in the K & C - who knows?
    Pretty sure, they did As for music, I hope not soft music parts ... It's sooo beautiful as it is Still loving the opening with that angelic Scott...The first fast piece seems to work well with the flow for their waltz-like dance into twizzles. The 2nd fast one after that pose (like in Mahler) I feel needs editing - that one was jarring...though I admit part of that music piece work well into the rotational lift.

    Sorry for using words soft and fast to make a point ... Not very music know-how

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    They've cut the music 23 freaking times and they're not even done. If that's not making you guys nervous I don't know what will (well besides the scoring). After the tenth cut that's when you look for different music. I really want to know what is going on in Marina's head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shayii View Post
    They've cut the music 23 freaking times and they're not even done. If that's not making you guys nervous I don't know what will (well besides the scoring). After the tenth cut that's when you look for different music. I really want to know what is going on in Marina's head.
    ITA, Shayii. After 10 cuts, it should have been time to move on to something else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shayii View Post
    I really want to know what is going on in Marina's head.
    No I don't think you do.

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    Does anyone please have vids of the press conference or medal ceremony, or a HD vid of FD? Would be so good to watch
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