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    We really haven't been commenting about ringers the last few seasons. Remember in the early seasons when we used to really rip them?

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    Every season, with the possible exception of season 1, has had a ringer or two. I like watching ringers ... except when they beat my favorite . No one wants to watch a season made up of only bad dancers like Adam Corolla, Wayne Newton, Wyonna Judd, Kate Goslin, Master P, etc.


    Brant is very attractive...when he's standing still. When he dances, it's very dorky looking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by orbitz View Post
    Every season, with the possible exception of season 1, has had a ringer or two. I like watching ringers ... except when they beat my favorite . No one wants to watch a season made up of only bad dancers like Adam Corolla, Wayne Newton, Wyonna Judd, Kate Goslin, Master P, etc.


    Brant is very attractive...when he's standing still. When he dances, it's very dorky looking.
    Brant reminds me of a cross between a Ken doll and Disney's Prince Charming cartoon. There's something very plastic about him.

    As for ringers, well, I watch DWTS to see people improve week to week. If you're already good, like Corbin, I want to see you get better. I think he has and he's proving that he can adapt to the ballroom style pretty well. I don't see that improvement in Elizabeth; she was good and graceful and balletic the first week - and she's pretty much stayed on that (admittedly high) level, just learning steps and changing them with her costumes. Amber I like because she's dealing with a non-standard physique and proving that she can MOVE and look decent doing it, thus giving hope to all the non-standard people out there.

    The problem with all the bad dancers mentioned above is that none of them got noticibly better as the weeks went on - some because they weren't capable and others because they didn't care enough to try. I would have liked to see Bill Nye last a little longer, myself, because I think he did improve exponentially from where he started. But that injury derailed that train.
    I'd rather be thought of as absolutely ridiculous than as absolutely boring.

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    Anna T. (pro dancer) was on an internet after show thing. They had a choreographer (famous - but I can't think of any names now) on there who firmly referenced something about Anna dating (would be her baby daddy) a director. Anna waved her off and said "I wish I was dating a director" but another lady on the panel also agreed that was indeed the situation.
    Sooo, this is perhaps why we never get to see Jonathon on the show anymore?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smileyskate View Post
    Anna T. (pro dancer) was on an internet after show thing. They had a choreographer (famous - but I can't think of any names now) on there who firmly referenced something about Anna dating (would be her baby daddy) a director. Anna waved her off and said "I wish I was dating a director" but another lady on the panel also agreed that was indeed the situation.
    Sooo, this is perhaps why we never get to see Jonathon on the show anymore?
    After Buzz: http://youtu.be/OiWV8Gdhl1Y
    The famous choreographer was Toni Basil.
    I think you seriously misinterpreted the remark, which was said as a joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smileyskate View Post
    Anna T. (pro dancer) was on an internet after show thing. They had a choreographer (famous - but I can't think of any names now) on there who firmly referenced something about Anna dating (would be her baby daddy) a director. Anna waved her off and said "I wish I was dating a director" but another lady on the panel also agreed that was indeed the situation.
    Sooo, this is perhaps why we never get to see Jonathon on the show anymore?
    Anna and Jonathon split last year. There was media coverage around the time they pitched their training aid on Shark Tank.
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    I remember hearing they were divorcing. I didn't see the remark on the internet show as a joke. Was it is an inside joke or something? Seems odd they have not had Jonathon back. Not that I am any big fan or anything but seems he disappeared.
    Hopefully all involved are doing as well as can be expected.
    Last edited by smileyskate; 10-27-2013 at 03:54 PM.

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    he hasnt been on since the season donny osond won, i dont think it would necessarily be related to their split
    I feel like I'm in a dream. But it can't be a dream because there are no boy dancers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by my little pony View Post
    he hasnt been on since the season donny osond won, i dont think it would necessarily be related to their split
    Jonathan danced with Anna on a couple of results shows until a few months before they separated.

    To be blunt, he doesn't have the hotness factor of the current pros. Yes, I know he's hot to many people, but he's not Gleb, Val or Sasha or even Tristan. :-/

    As for what Anna said, I believe they were talking about certain performances looking much better on TV than they look live. Toni Basil joked that it pays to be dating the director and Anna replied something along the lines of "I wish."

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    ita that jonathan, while not bad looking, did not have a personality for tv.
    I feel like I'm in a dream. But it can't be a dream because there are no boy dancers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by my little pony View Post
    ita that jonathan, while not bad looking, did not have a personality for tv.
    I think he was fine in the early seasons, but the show has a decidedly different look now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pixie cut View Post
    I think he was fine in the early seasons, but the show has a decidedly different look now.
    Hi choreo was lackluster at best. It seemed he was trying to train his star for pro-am, not for exhibition style.
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    I mainly only remembered him with Marie. I don't think the floppy doll dance helped him any, though she said she wanted that as she creates/sells dolls.
    He may have been nice for Valerie Harper, though I imagine she requested Tristan. I thought I heard her saying something like she was glad that he was used to working with some of the more mature female celebs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smileyskate View Post
    I mainly only remembered him with Marie. I don't think the floppy doll dance helped him any, though she said she wanted that as she creates/sells dolls.
    I think I'm one of the few, but I didn't have any problem with the concept of a doll dance. My problem was with the choreography. They didn't dance. I kept waiting for the doll to truly come to life and for them to do sort of a fantasy dance. But they just lumped around, did some ugly lifts and some joke moves and were done. It's okay that she got her concept. Jonathan failed in making the most of it.

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    I think Jonathan got tired of being given the old and the klutzy (ie he has less tolerance/patience than Tony.) You can teach for pro-am and do great stuff, but it's a lot easier with a younger, fitter student who's highly motivated. Tristan's clearly being slotted into "Replacement Jonathan" roles. Maybe because while clearly people think he's hot he doesn't have the slick gigolo look the Eastern European pros do? He was with Burn the Floor a long time, he's capable of doing outre choreo, but if you're trying to delicately handle ladies of a certain age or with a terminal illness there's only so much you can do...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pixie cut View Post
    I think I'm one of the few, but I didn't have any problem with the concept of a doll dance. My problem was with the choreography. They didn't dance. I kept waiting for the doll to truly come to life and for them to do sort of a fantasy dance. But they just lumped around, did some ugly lifts and some joke moves and were done. It's okay that she got her concept. Jonathan failed in making the most of it.
    Same here.
    That dance just didn't pan out correctly.
    In a later season, even Tom B. humorously mentioned to someone (maybe Donny?), to stay away from "Floppy doll dances".

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    He was with Burn the Floor a long time, he's capable of doing outre choreo, but if you're trying to delicately handle ladies of a certain age or with a terminal illness there's only so much you can do...
    I would love to see Tristan with a partner who would allow him to show how capable he is.

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    Every season, with the possible exception of season 1, has had a ringer or two. I like watching ringers ... except when they beat my favorite . No one wants to watch a season made up of only bad dancers like Adam Corolla, Wayne Newton, Wyonna Judd, Kate Goslin, Master P, etc.
    I think there has to be something between a ringer and the bad dancers you mentioned. I don't particularly enjoy the seasons where one ringer seems to get annointed as the champion during the first three weeks. I want the suspense and drama. I personally enjoyed the first two seasons because it was a case of watching a show and being in disbelief about how good or bad someone was based on your preconceptions of them. After a while it became less about that.

    It is still an enjoyable show, but it is no longer a show I think about when it isn't on or I don't see a thread about it on here. I dislike how some of the celebs have come to expect that they will be treated with kid gloves and fawned all over for their efforts. I prefer the mediocre dancers.

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    My favorite seasons have been when someone discovers a talent/love for dancing which they didn't know they had.
    eg: Gilles Marini/Cheryl Burke, JR Martinez, etc.

    Part of the reason for their success was pairing them with the right Pro.
    We saw what happened to Gilles/Peta, during All-Stars.

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    Carrie Ann needs to lay off the caffeine or booze. I've missed a few weeks due to work and so far tonight I haven't been blown away. So far I liked Brant the best. I'm not feeling the Elizabeth/Val or Amber/ Derek team. Am waiting...............

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