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    Quote Originally Posted by Kasey View Post
    So basically, being gay is fine, it's just pedophilia that is frowned upon? Um, wait, isn't that the same in most of the civilized world? Putin needs to get his definitions straight, pardon the pun.
    ABC's This Week had a segment on this today, including an interview with Putin; and it's clear that Putin's issue is not only with pedophilia. He was saying ridiculous things like the law will help increase birth rates. He won't back down on the law, but he's clearly flailing about for justifications for it that make sense in the 21st century.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwanfan1818 View Post
    While this discussion.would not happen everywhere in Canada, let alone in the US, I'm glad that my friend does not teach fifth graders in Russia:

    http://www.rethinkingschools.org/arc...02_ciwko.shtml
    Your friend is a great teacher, thanks for sharing.

    Quote Originally Posted by ks1227 View Post
    ABC's This Week had a segment on this today, including an interview with Putin; and it's clear that Putin's issue is not only with pedophilia. He was saying ridiculous things like the law will help increase birth rates. He won't back down on the law, but he's clearly flailing about for justifications for it that make sense in the 21st century.
    Because obviously everybody being turned gay is the cause of a low birth rate and not a lack of a feeling of security and financial stability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nylynnr View Post
    Everyone has the right to do what they think is best for them, in a given stituation and at a given time. Earlier this week Boitano gave a very interesting talk in NYC on developing focus and self-discipline. After the event was disrupted (in a non-violent way) by Queer Nation, BB admitted coming out publically was outside of his comfort zone, something he never thought he would do.

    About not speaking out more forcefully against Putin, he said, “Just getting off the plane and being an out, gay male in Russia says volumes. It’s not like Putin is not going to understand or notice.” That's Boitano's way; JW has a different way.

    It's sad, to me anyway, that BB and JW are being so heavily criticized by the gay community -- Boitano in a very, very harsh way. Reminds me of coming up as a woman on Wall Street; there were times women would just tear each other apart and pick on each others' bones, while men laughed at them.
    Well said!

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    When I was making dinner yesterday, I was listening to a Russian documentary on Sochi in the background (I didn't even realise it would be on TV). It focused on people being forcibly evicted and having their homes bulldozed to make way for the Olympic venues and then getting feck all in compensation. So you had a whole family sharing one small room and a 9-person three-generation family in a tiny apartment with toilet outside and no access to hot water, and so on.

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    There were many incidents of this type of thing in Beijing^

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    Anyone who rode the bus from Downtown Vancouver to the Pacific Coliseum for the skating events would see the wide gap between our wealthy and our poor in vivid colour. Or small businesses being harassed by the Vancouver Olympic Committee. I don't think Russia is unique with respect to the treatment of non-wealthy people during Olympic times.

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    So much for Elton John keeping quiet about the law.

    http://www.rollingstone.com/music/ne...mized-20140122

    Elton John labeled Russia's new anti-gay laws "inhumane" and "isolating" when he played Moscow and Kazan in December, and now that he's back from tour he's taken the time to write a thorough condemnation of the legislation. He was further outraged by President Putin's recent remarks that linked homosexuality to pedophilia. "Vicious homophobia has been legitimatized," he writes, "by this legislation and given extremists the cover to abuse people’s basic human rights."
    On that trip I met with members of the LGBT community in Moscow. Although I was still welcomed as an openly gay foreigner, I wanted to really understand at first-hand what difference the legislation had made to Russian LGBT in their own country. What I heard reinforced all the media stories that have been circling since the propaganda bill became federal law: that vicious homophobia has been legitimised by this legislation and given extremists the cover to abuse people's basic human rights.
    I wonder if Putin was expecting that after publicly stating "we love Elton John."
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    Jon Stewart and the Daily Show take on "The Homophobic Olympics."
    http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tu...hobic-olympics

    I'm not sure if this will play outside the U.S.

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    Hey guys,
    i'm going to give a presentation on the subject of The Sochi Olympics controversies, The question of human rights in Russia,
    And the Question of the Olympic charter versus Some of the Olympic hosting nations, And yada yada...

    Does anybody know of a video, Or videos, Preferably not ones only in Russian without translation that sum up one or all of these subjects ?
    I would probably edit a bunch of information myself using also a lot of articles and clips brought here, but would be nice to Show a video
    That kinda brings it all and sums it up well.

    And also, For objectivity, Would be great to have a more "Russian" point of view for all of this but with english subtitles\translation to also show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manhn View Post
    Anyone who rode the bus from Downtown Vancouver to the Pacific Coliseum for the skating events would see the wide gap between our wealthy and our poor in vivid colour. Or small businesses being harassed by the Vancouver Olympic Committee. I don't think Russia is unique with respect to the treatment of non-wealthy people during Olympic times.
    ^^^ This!

    That ride to the Pacific Coliseum was unbelievable.
    Olympics are always a curse for the local poor population, no matter where.

    Moscow says today that the West is trying to discredit the Games. No sirs, you have been doing it all yourself, no help needed from outside!
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    http://www.towleroad.com/2014/01/russiaprop.html

    01/24/2014

    BROADWAY'S BIG STARS PROTEST RUSSIA'S BAN ON 'GAY PROPAGANDA' WITH EPIC MUSICAL NUMBER: VIDEO

    BY ANDY TOWLE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tinami Amori View Post
    That is not true. The uniform design was created way before the law took place in Summer 2013. There was a contest for the design, and certain criteria set.... and "colorful/happy/like Russian folk art" was one of them.
    So Russian folk art is the true cause of homosexuality in Russia? I'm confused ...

    (tongue planted firmly in cheek)

    O-

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    Gay Australian Olympian Belle Brockhoff Promises to ‘Rip on Putin’s Ass’ in Sochi Interviews http://bit.ly/M6eBri

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    So there will be at least one out athlete at the Olympics. Cool!

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    I posted this in the Olympic forum, but it is relevant here:

    German Olympians will wear rainbow-colored uniforms in Sochi

    http://ftw.usatoday.com/2013/10/germ...orms-in-sochi/

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikey View Post
    I posted this in the Olympic forum, but it is relevant here:

    German Olympians will wear rainbow-colored uniforms in Sochi

    http://ftw.usatoday.com/2013/10/germ...orms-in-sochi/
    I am a devoted "Bogner-girl", so here are my 5-marks worth...

    Actually, this is what German uniform looks like without "colour exaggerations".
    http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/_W...ts/d1003o3.jpg

    Bogner designed his Winter 2013/2014 collection in Fall 2012. It is now all about "colour", after his 2011/2012 "Fire and Ice" 2-tone collection did not sell too well.

    After 2012 he got into "colour" and stayed in "colour".
    http://theboutiquelife.com/wp-conten...ds/Bogner3.jpg

    http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/23...c3a78a94e7.jpg

    http://images.snow-online.de/2012-20...-Kea_0_500.jpg

    http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/73...6463dbfd6c.jpg

    Very few people in Russia know that rainbow colours are symbols of Gay Movement...
    Maybe more people know now, but not a year ago, when Russian Team and Russian volunteer uniforms were designed.

    Russian Team is going to wear Rainbow Gloves..... that's better than Ashley's nails....
    http://vipmedia.globalnews.ca/2014/0...288%26crop%3D1

    And Putin is wearing the Rainbow jacket....
    http://www.yuga.ru/media/putin2.jpg

    I wish that international community would stop playing with this "colour" nonsense.. and make an official demand to clarify what "gay propaganda" means, point by point, on the premises "we don't want to break Russian laws, so please clarify".

    First people must know what the law means in detail. ONLY THEN it can be taken apart and argued against.

    Otherwise it is very convenient for the Russian side to reply to opposition by saying "Evil West wants us to allow pedophilia".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tinami Amori View Post
    I wish that international community would stop playing with this "colour" nonsense.. and make an official demand to clarify what "gay propaganda" means, point by point, on the premises "we don't want to break Russian laws, so please clarify".

    First people must know what the law means in detail. ONLY THEN it can be taken apart and argued against.

    Otherwise it is very convenient for the Russian side to reply to opposition by saying "Evil West wants us to allow pedophilia".
    That is a very good point. Why hasn't anybody raised this yet?

    Coyness can be a very powerful weapon. 'I will be a guest in Russia so I would like you to please tell me what you exactly mean by "gay propaganda" so that I can respect your law.' Let them hang themselves.
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    A photo of a men's toilet stall at the Biathlon centre

    "This is how they understand the needs of sexual minorities."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggy View Post
    A photo of a men's toilet stall at the Biathlon centre

    "This is how they understand the needs of sexual minorities."
    The stall has it's own thread.
    http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/show...i-Toilet-Stall

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggy View Post
    A photo of a men's toilet stall at the Biathlon centre

    "This is how they understand the needs of sexual minorities."
    It's an old foto. The cube had a divider, and 2 doors. These were workers' bathrooms, and they are being taken down. This cube will be a supply room.

    http://i.simpalsmedia.com/point.md/n...ea8fb7db11.jpg

    http://static4.businessinsider.com/i...-/rtx17q4s.jpg
    Last edited by Tinami Amori; 01-25-2014 at 06:50 PM.

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