6th - 10th
Outside the top 10
Would not make the Russian team
She is super talented but she would not be ready to medal in such a field, either in ability or reputation wise with the judges. She could well be the skater to beat in the next quad though. She is that good.
Lets see where Elena is in 18-24 months when she won't look like she's 12 anymore. Either she will have survived puberty and kept her jumps and added speed and power or she's just another wunderkind who didn't survive.
To answer the question posed in the title of this thread, "no".
I saw her and her skate for the first time today and I was not impressed. In fact I got up to get lunch in the middle of it, that's how unimpressed I was.
But she's in good company, I felt the same way about the following when they first appeared on the junior scene: Tara, Mao, Mirai, Caroline Z., Bebe, Michelle, and the list goes on & on ad infinitum.
The only one that I ever felt differently about is Oksana Baiul. She was mature beyond her years from the first tiime she stepped on the ice. Never before or since have I felt that way about a skater.
As for all the rest, I prefer them to *ferment* first before they enter the elite level of senior skating, wherein they finally become fine wine... jmho.
Whenever I see gushing about Radionova, I immediately want to be a killjoy and point out that Lipnitskaia, Sotnikova and Tuktamysheva were all touted to be future Olympic/World champions. Then came puberty and spoiled the party.
Radionova is great, yes. But she has a body of a pre-pubescent girl at the moment. Tiny, wispy and totally flat. Who knows how she's going to adapt to puberty.
That's true of all the young girls. Nobody is crowning them champions yet, but there is nothing wrong with praising her for what she is doing well right now.
Sotnikova, Tuk, etc. are not exactly duds. They are young ladies working hard to overcome the changes in their bodies. It's too early to write them off, and too early to write off Radionova.
Bort's jumping at the 87 World Juniors was actually quite amazing for the time, especialy for a junior skater. Only Ito and on her best days Manley could outjump her in the whole World at the time with a performance like that. Yet a year later at U.S Nationals she was already a massive shadow of what she had been a year earlier:
She was never heard from after that. Holly Cook who was nowhere near Bortz as a junior and was 4th at that same World Junior event even flew past her and went on to become a World medalist (incidentally nobody who medaled at those World Juniors even came close to qualifying for a Worlds out of their country, and all were retired soon, while 4th place Cook went on to be the 1990 World bronze medalist).
Those of you who dont think Elena would have any chance of a medal at the 2014 Olympics had she competed need to give your heads a shake. Her performances at Nelberhorn on home ice would likely point her over 200 points and with the inconsistent field, except probable gold medalist Yu Na Kim, that could easily be a medal wining score in Sochi. It doesnt matter since she wont be able to compete but she certainly would have had a medal chance. People who say nonsense like she wouldnt be able to beat a clean Asada and clean Kostner for the silver and bronze medals, how likely is it that Kostner and Asada will skate clean? No chance or close to none. So atleast look at in a more realistic way, could Radianova beat them and the rest of the field with the type of errors they are likely to make. The answer is definitely it is possible, not certain, but would have been possible.
For sure the Russians will be upset they cant send her. The girls they will send, whoever they are, dont have a hope to medal. She would have. She is already the best Russian skater and will probably win Russian Nationals this year.
123 points for rather smallish jumps and not great speed or ice coverage is rather ridiculous. I'm glad a 4'11 girl with a prepubescent body who's mainly a jumping bean isn't going to be at the Olympics. There is more to skating and i want to see the whole package from a skater who looks and skates like a Senior Lady. Yes she's very talented but puberty and growth spurts could change all that.
Last edited by Jammers; 09-28-2013 at 11:17 PM.
And as for not placing higher that was a pretty deep field.
Lets see how she does two years from now before we name her the future Olympic champion.
Good lord, isn't it enough already? Have you somehow swallowed an old tape and have something stuck on the repeat button? There are already two copies of your usual 'blabla she's still young so what she can do now means nothing blabla'-posts in this thread - if you're so disparaging of these young russian girls, then why do you spent so much time posting abut them? Just leave it alone, it's annoying as hell.Originally Posted by Jammers
Yes, people over-hyping those young skaters up to later stardom are annoying and stupid, but people who just dsimiss all of their hard work and good skills are stupid just as much. Elena might not make it through puberty, but that doesn't change the fact of what she's capable of now. And right now, she has a very difficult jumping layout and a much more joyful and whole-hearted presentation than the majority of the senior girls. Nothing wrong with loving her for that.
What an unfair world, I want to be cursed too!Originally Posted by mia joy